The Hater

Okay so I need Universe, Bardothren, and Hibikaze to vote. If Universe doesn't vote by then, they will be removed.

Extending the phase till tomorrow morning.
 
[Save] nimsy
[Kill] universe
[choose] stairs
 
BANG BANG​
Grim Doofley and Ophelia Yuri were chained to their chairs with a gun on the table.

The Hater spoke on the loudspeaker somewhere, that Grim has a choice whether to shoot himself or Ophelia.

Grim grabbed the gun, and shot himself.

...

It was a blank.

The Hater walked in dismayed. They thought they could outsmart them, but The Hater pulled out another gun and aimed at Ophelia.

Meanwhile, everyone decided to use the stairs down to the basement. Jack Allister found a key which has a label "B" on it. He used the key on its door and found The Hater pointing a gun at Ophelia.

The Hater, startled, put down the gun, and fled the scene quickly. The Disciple, depressed as usual, fled the scene too.

Unfortunately for the students, the Hater has slipped from their grasp once again.

The next day, Nancy Gerson was found dead with the Hater's gun on her hand. It did not look like a suicide, or even the Hater's handiwork. Someone else killed her.​
NANCY GERSON HAS BEEN KILLED. SHE WAS PLAYED BY UNIVERSE​
GRIM DOOFLEY AND OPHELIA YURI ARE SAFE FROM DEATH... FOR NOW​
PHASE TWELVE DEATH RATES​
Here are everyone's current death rates so far. Green indicates your death rate is now lower compared to your previous death rate, Red indicates your death rate has been increased since your previous death rate, Gray indicates your death rate was changed but it did not increase or decrease, and White indicates that no change in your death rate occurred. The Determining Number indicates what the RNG rolled, and will dictate if you live or die. Getting the number lower or equal to your death rate will mean death, while you live if you get a number higher than your death rate.

Clifford Maxwell: DEAD
Carrie Miroku: DEAD
Jack Allister: SAFE
Greg Perry: DEAD
Mia Letta: DEAD
Nancy Gerson: 58; 20% chance of death this phase [Determining Number: 10]
Student 7: 50
Ford Rangers: 17 [Determining Number: 10]
Ashley Bailey: DEAD
Max Swift: DEAD
Gary Doofley: DEAD
Grim Doofley: 4 [Determining Number: 44]
Student 13: 54
Winnie Schfeltzer: SAFE
Ophelia Yuri: 1 [Determining Number: 3]
John Muskett: DEAD
Brad Tesla: DEAD
Betty Cheshire: KILLED
Heath Maskara: KILLED
Student 20: 0​
PHASE FOURTEEN​
August 7th, 2016; Thursday

The Hater and the Disciple stood and watched the students struggling. They snickered to themselves, plotting on what to do to their targets.

"Hey dude, what would you think would happen if we poked them with a stick? Go ahead, ladies first." snorted the Hater, chuckling to herself.

The Disciple shot the Hater a death glare. "For the last time, don't fucking use those pronouns on me. I'm gender neutral, alright?" The Disciple folded their arms. "We have to go to class now anyways. Get ready, cupcake." They parted ways and walked into their respective rooms.

"See you tonight. Today's gonna be as sweet as pie." The Hater grinned and walked into class. The disciple walked away until she stopped, and turned to theirs.​
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT​
Kill votes now have a 20% chance to kill per vote, rather than 10%. You only need 5 votes to kill someone.​
RULES​
❋ The PokeCommunity Rules apply here
❋ One vote per phase
❋ Please use [save] name or [kill] name and bold it to confirm your vote
❋ Missing two phases will increase your death rate to 100
❋ No PM Sharing
❋ You are not supposed to PM anyone but the GM
❋ All Mafia discussion should be kept here
❋ If you are DEAD, you are DEAD. Don't haunt the thread with your posts
❋ However, if someone dies, they get to give ONE deadpost, that doesn't give any information about the game
❋ Actions should be sent to me by PM
❋ Self-voting is not allowed
​
PLAYERS​
Here are the players of The Hater

Davepetasprite^2 as Diana Nadia
Omicron as [supporter]Greg Perry[/supporter] [P5]
Kaneki!!! as [supporter]Max Swift[/supporter] [P5]
Ash as [supporter]Ashley Bailey[/supporter] [P7]
Youma as [supporter]Heath Maskara[/supporter] [P7]
Lycanthropy as [supporter]John Muskett[/supporter] [P8]
Melody as [supporter]Brad Tesla[/supporter] [P8]
Draskk as [supporter]Mia Letta[/supporter] [P8]
aeternum as [supporter]Carrie Miroku[/supporter] [P9]
Klippy as [supporter]Clifford Maxwell[/supporter] [P10]
Wicked3DS as [supporter]Gary Doofley[/supporter] [P10]
Desinishon as [supporter]Ford Rangers[/supporter] [P11]
JohnnyMustang as [supporter]Betty Cheshire[/supporter] [P11]
Universe as [supporter]Nancy Gerson[/supporter] [P12]
Collector Elwood as ???
Bardothren as ???
Nimsy as ???
Nakuzami as ???
NightKrow as ???
jdthebud as ???
Hibikaze as ???​
 
yay Kiyobae survived and isn't evil!
 
Okay, hibikaze is definitely the hater.

NightKrow as Fred Ezekiel - Barista
jdthebud as Norman Azaela - Busy bee

Jd and nightkrow are the two unconfirmed ones.
So it has to be one of the two.
They also parted ways, so the disciple isn't in class 4C, the hater is.
The disciple also was characterized as depressed, and nightkrow didn't disclose any personality info.

So [kill] nightkrow
 
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[PokeCommunity.com] The Hater

I'm glad to have both mine and Bard's innocence proven, but all that new info throws a wrench into my ideas. Was Universe an inactive kill and the disciple is someone new?

But that ending sentence points out the Hater and Disciple are in different classes.
 
Which role was Kiyo again?

And what class is Fred (Nightkrow) in?

Also, I want to point out that Nightkrow and I voted to save each other, but only one number in the list is green, although that looks like a formatting error since the Student 7 and Student 13 death rates both went down by one.

I think I need your saves as I'm the only one unconfirmed left besides Nightkrow.
 
"You are a sociable person, yet deceptive."

Nothing about depression, being gender neutral, or about cupcakes. Why would the Hater say "ladies first" to a character who is male?

I am in class 4A, to answer jd's question.
 
Well the disciple has to be Nightkrow, since I'm in 4C.

The Hater is Hibikaze. Nothing much left to sleuth out.

But saves for me I think are necessary, it feels like I'm the next person to be attacked, possibly the last one.

As for the ladies first comment, it's known that the Hater is female, so it was obviously a joke.
 
"The disciple walked away until she stopped, and turned to theirs."

Nice try.

Also, I hope you guys realise that if Universe was the previous disciple, then no one is "confirmed," (apart from the people in 4C) as a new Disciple would have been chosen from all of us after the Hater attempted to take Bard and Kiyo's life.

I think I know who the new Disciple is, if this is the case.
 
Well somehow I missed that part of the phase post, sorry Nightkrow. So who do you think it is?

If we put together a list of everyone who's left and their classes, that should be a good starting point, as the Disciple is not in 4C.

Edit:

Okay, here are the remaining girls alive:
Kiyo - Ophelie Yuri
Nakuzami - Winnie Schfeltzer
Hibikaze - Sophie Riley

Winnie is safe, so she's not the Disciple.
Sophie is the Hater as she's in 4C.
Interestingly, when Ophelie was being held and threatened by the Hater, there was no mention of the Disciple, until afterwards when she fled. This leads me to believe that Ophelie is the Disciple and was taken to provide a false alibi.

Unless Winnie is somehow the Disciple, which seems very unlikley.
 
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The disciple was there:

The Hater, startled, put down the gun, and fled the scene quickly. The Disciple, depressed as usual, fled the scene too.

The hater and the disciple are not in the same class:

"See you tonight. Today's gonna be as sweet as pie." The Hater grinned and walked into class. The disciple walked away until she stopped, and turned to theirs.

The disciple's sex is female, but they may very well be using a male name:

The Disciple shot the Hater a death glare. "For the last time, don't ****ing use those pronouns on me. I'm gender neutral, alright?" The Disciple folded their arms.

Also, it was stated that two people would be set to die each phase, but there only seems to be one in danger this time around. There are only two people left that haven't been targeted, and one has to be the disciple.

If universe was the last disciple, it would have been stated since we have a phase to find and kill the hater before they find a new disciple.
 
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r u serious jd liek srsly

Anyway, it was said in the beginning of last phase that both the Disciple and the Hater captured their next set of victims, so you're incorrect to say that my character and the disciple weren't mentioned separately, because they were.

Besides, I was digging around old posts to be reminded that Phase Four was when the disciple "if they hadn't joined the Hater" was supposed to be killed.

A lot of the clues point towards Hibikaze being the Disciple. Aren't death votes treated as a per-phase thing? As in, we as vanilla players don't raise the Death Rates - those are the Hater's the manipulate. We just vote to kill someone off and add 10% (well now 20% starting this phase) chance to kill them additionally within the phase. So, in that line of thinking, a death rate wouldn't be affected whatsoever. Well, after some re-reading this is what appears to be the case. Could be wrong. But that has its own problems - why would the disciple get a 0% death rate but not the Hater? I'm starting to seriously question if Gunner's thrown the wool over our eyes and we have to kill her, but all hints make it seem like Hibikaze is the disciple, not the Hater, since phase four was also supposed to have a class 4C person die then too. She's the only one who fits the bill and I've already been proven innocent.

But the pronouns thing is interesting. Also, jd, you're in class 4B, not 4C.

Also did anybody else ever pick up on how there's this motif of "1124?" The school's address is 1124, the Disciple mentioned how a book felt like 1124 pounds, the cliffs were 1124 feet high ...
 
Hibikaze is student 20.
student 20 is the hater.
So hibikaze is the hater.

Jd is student 13 and nightkrow is student 7.

I also think jd is the one targeted for death:
"Hey dude, what would you think would happen if we poked them with a stick?"- Jd is the "Busy bee", Poking a beehive with a stick.
"See you tonight. Today's gonna be as sweet as pie." - sweet=honey=bee= "busy bee"
 
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Nimsy said:
Hibikaze is student 20.
student 20 is the hater.
So hibikaze is the hater.
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Yes I know how the student list works
I mean I totally agree with you but

Klippy's death suggests disciple is in 4C
The Disciple's death day was supposed to land on someone in 4C
Hibikaze is the only person left in 4C besides me and I'm proven innocent

So like what gives? Why do all disciple hints coincide with the person who's supposed to be the Hater?
 
This is getting seriously confusing. If both the Hater and Disciple are both confirmed girls then who else could it be? Fred (Nightkrow) is clearly a guy, and I'm a guy too.

While Diana (Gunner) being the Hater would have been epic, there's the small issue that Sophie (Hibikaze) and Diana both are in 4C.

The only other girl left is Winnie, who's in 4B. If what you say is true about the death rates, maybe we should kill Nakuzami, since the SAFE status is only from the Hater's machinations, which as the Disciple, they obviously would be.

What do you think about that? If you have a better idea about who the Disciple is I'd like to hear it.

No idea what the 1124 thing is.
 
I AM SO DONE WITH YOU GUNNER!
[kill]diana nadia

I reread the OP.
All students are accounted for except Diana. There is a "masked heathen"
SO HIBIKAZE MIGHT BE THE DISCIPLE AND GUNNER MIGHT BE THE HATER.
IN WHICH CASE, THAT IS COMPLETE BS!
 
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