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The Official Misty (Bring Her Back) Club !

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May is 10 based on what? You can't really tell. To some, she is 10, to others, she is 15. Who's to say? How long has it been since Ash got pikachu? The point I am trying to make is that you can't really tell ages. If you ask me, Max looks and acts like an 11 or 12 year old and is much smaller than Ash, May, and Brock. Perhaps both Ash and May are in their teens and Brock is nearing or already 18.

And about "giving the talk" to little girls and boys. I would simply tell them the truth and the risks involved. I would also give them a choice and tell them if they screw up, I am not cleaning up! This will place a huge responsibility on them and make 'em fly straight. If a teenage girl had a parent who would NOT be a place to dump a baby off if the teen ever got pregnant, do you think she would have unprotected sex or sex at all? If you told your son that if he got a girl pregnant, you would not provide any financial aid and told him that if that ever happened, he would HAVE to leave school and get a job and support the baby for 18 years?. Would kids make the stupid mistakes they are already making?
Parents nowadays have trouble telling their kids what is right and wrong. Some would be afraid of giving the talk. Hell, they can't even confront their kids about drug problems! When the Jessie Jackson "wardrobe malfunction" occured, parents were angered. I am willing to bet that the kids that saw that didn't even notice or give a rat's ***. Today, parents are making their kids walk around in the dark. They are poorly informed. When they are, it's from the wrong sources. I learned about sex from friends, not from parents.
Who knows what kids are learning today!

Anyways, we are getting a bit off topic here, don't you think?
 
As for trying that with kids, you'd like to think so. I would too. But it don't work. Two of my best friends are struggling to raise their kid and their parents told them precisely that and followed through with that threat. No, the problem goes far far deeper than can be averted with simple threats. Meaningful social change and de-objectification of the femal gender needs to, MUST occour before this kind of thing can start being averted. May is a symptom and symbol of that culture and the objectification of women.

Yes, yes we are.
 
wow,I have never read so much in one topic before xD but you guys are right and I won't just summarize what everyone said because I'm sure we all get the point

btw,that is a very nice drawing Sunflorazumarill^^
 
Really mature posts everyone. It is great see everyone being mature on this subject. I would never take advantage of a girl. I treat girls with respect. Also, some really beautiful women have small breasts or are flat chested. That doesn't mean they are bad looking. All women develop differently. Some end up with big chests, while others got small chests. Misty is a really great example. She may flat-chested , but she is a really beautiful girl that is really smart, and has a really nice personality. That is something that I really love about her.

I'm surprized no one metioned the infamous scene from Brave The Wave. :P
 
Basically, TAD, what I was saying is that even if it doesn't work in the end, you have to at least try to keep your children on a certain path. Children rarely if ever listen to their parents' warnings, but it's not entirely foolish to hope that they will and try to shape them.

I can't stand the need in children to pointlessly rebel. Exerting one's independence is important, but children do it far more to be spiteful.
 
I'm basically agreeing with you, saying that threats alone won't work. Children DO indeed need to be shaped in that regard, lest they wind up causing severe harm to others. But in addition, there needs to be a severe social change to counteract the sexualization of today's society, the objectification of women, and the dominance of men.
 
And there's no way that's ever going to happen, unfortunately. There used to be a time when the parent was stronger than all the adverse effects of society, but that time is long gone.
 
I'm glad there are people that can see that part of society for what it really is. It makes me feel sick whenever my little sister tells me the stories of how far kids in her school have gotten, and how proud they are of it. Kaga, I sure hope it happens. But looking at the current path of society, like you said, it probably wont. Sigh, maybe in the far future, when we are long gone, this whole thing will be nothing more than a chapter in a history book. We can only hope.
This discussion may have been off topic but I'm glad it came up.
 
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Hey Adamant Dodger: I would like to know exactly what you mean by "Meaningful social change and de-objectification of the female gender". If this is the way of averting such a problem, you are wrong. The problem lies in the parents. The parents are the first influence on a child's life. You shouldn't blame society for what someone's son or daughter is doing.
I remember when a kid was shot and killed near my school. Parents immediately blamed cops, they blamed society, they blamed gun control but never looked at themselves. The fact of the matter was that the kid that was shot was in a gang. The parents had either failed in teaching their kid about gangs or had failed to get him out or had failed in noticing. What I am saying is that you shouldn't blame society when some young kid is having sex. You should look at the parents first. You are all nuts who say that society is to blame. If a parent is successful at teaching what is right, they will not conform to what other people are doing.

You are all crazy who say that society and the objectification of women is to blame.

And another thing: What the hell does one mean by respect for women. I am confused because respect is something you earn. You don't get respect because of your gender.
 
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I mean that the influence of the parents, which is in this particular case, oftentimes quite positive, is being subverted and undercut by society as a whole. I'm saying that my parents raised me with the right ideas, but that much of what I see around me goes against those ideals. I'm saying that in the case of my friends who are trying to raise their kid, their parents gave them the right set of ideas, but extra-parental influence lead to a kid who isn't gonna have a good life in all liklihood.

I'm also saying that individual women don't get respect because of their gender, I'm saying that socially, they should be given enough respect as humans to not be treated as the property of the male gender, to be used for the sexual pleasuring of men. At the moment, this is not the case.

Nor did I once put the blame on society and objectification of women. I said that that society is wrong, and that it subverts the more positive influences of parents.
 
I still disagree

It sounds like you did blame society.
Society is not as powerful as full parental discretion.
Men will always pleasure themselves with women. The opposite sex is what turns a heterosexual man on, whether it be from a magazine or real life. Of course they are going to use women for sexual pleasuring. Can you think of something else that will arouse a man? The answer is no. It's nature and evolution. That should not be changed.
And if a child is going against what their parents have taught, the parents are screwing up and should immediately take action.
 
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In this day and age, unfortunately, society IS that powerful. I'd love to come and join you in your happy little dream world, but I can't, I've seen all to much that flies in the face of what you say.

And yet, in today's world, it seems to be that women are told that that is the sole reason they exist. Forget their worth as humans, thery're just a pair of breasts and a couple coneveniet holes. That is objectification, or nothing is, and THAT, my friend, is simply wrong on any decent scale of measure.
 
What!

Society is not that powerful. Parents have an influence on a child's life, much greater than that of society. If raised correctly, children will fly right. And if society is truly that powerful, why are so many girls having sex when society says that a woman that has sex before getting married is a $lut and a w#ore. Society says violence is wrong but you see so much violence in this world. Things like crime and sex is something that society looks down upon but they happen anyway.
Parents should step in when something like this is happening, regardless of the cause. If they don't, they have failed as parents. Keep in mind, today's society was formed by yesterday's parents.

Anyways, what does xD mean?
 
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While we're on the subject, I guess how you can phrase this about women before voting rights is that they were basically a minority. Hear me? They were and may still be a little like a minority.

Now let's take a vote on what to do?

A. Put this topic to rest and start talking about Misty again.
B. Continue talking about this pointless topic foe the next ten or so pages and change this club's title.

Well, what is everybody's decision on this vote?
 
Come back Misty!!!

How are they a minority? They're 55% of the population.
And as for voting, I vote we start talking about Misty. By the way, what do you think about this SunflorAzumarill? (you know, maybe this thread should be called "Voice lender, bring her back" since her departure caused Misty's departure. Just a thought.)
 
Alright, topic dropped, though I still remain convinced that society is a large part of the problem.

I disagrees, 'cuz, a) I care about Misty and Veronicva Taylor, not Kasumi and the Japanese voice actor, and b), character and VA are seperate issues.
 
Well, I could help out by posting a great pic from Miyabic Room. :classic:

[PokeCommunity.com] The Official Misty (Bring Her Back) Club !

https://miyabic.edap.jp/irasuto/color/ira5/ningyo.htm

She always looks really pretty as a mermaid. :classic:

And Adament Dodger, don't you mean..........

[PokeCommunity.com] The Official Misty (Bring Her Back) Club !

^Racheal Lillis? She's the voice actress for Misty ;)
 
Yes, yes I do. *smacks self* I tend to get those two confuzzled.
 
Too much sugar

Some of these pics are too lovey dovey for my taste. I'm somewhat of an artistic critic. I'd like to see a picture that represents the struggle between Misty and Ash's feelings for each other. I love how they act like they don't like each other and they refuse to admit it. Both of them admitting their love would ruin the series for me.
 
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