The strongest Pokémon

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    Which Pokémon do you think is the strongest or 'most overpowered' in Pokémon GO?

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    Isn't Dragonite technically the strongest by possible stats? Just super rare to see.

    I've seen a lot of Snorlax, Lapras, and Aerodactyl at stronger gyms.
     
    Hiidoran said:
    Isn't Dragonite technically the strongest by possible stats? Just super rare to see.

    I've seen a lot of Snorlax, Lapras, and Aerodactyl at stronger gyms.
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    Pokémon with high HP tend to win out most fights.

    That's why Aerodactyl is pretty terrible. Both Vaporeon and Lapras easily outclass it. Vaporeon is so imbalanced that it can defeat a Jolteon of the same CP simply because Water Gun AND Aqua Tail are amongst the highest DPS moves in the game, plus Vaporeon has a far higher base HP pool.

    Dragonite technically has the highest CP ceiling, but can be defeated by a high CP Lapras with Frost Breath (Super effective + STAB) and higher base HP.

    Snorlax is a wall and Body Slam is the highest DPS move in the game, not even including STAB.

    That's why Dragonite, Lapras, Vaporeon and Snorlax reign supreme in any high level gym. They all have something in common: high DPS moves, high base HP.
     
    Vaporeon, Snorlax and Lapras seem very strong.

    There's also a ton of high level hypno in the gyms around me, but I think that has less to do with hypno being OP and more to do with drowzee being abundant around me.
     
    What're we thinking is up at the top after the new patch has had some time to unfold? The already strong Lapras seems even crazier right now whereas Vaporeon is definitely a lot more manageable than before. What do you guys think are the strongest now?
     
    I haven't battle Lapras but my 1611cp Vaporeon beat 1751cp Snorlax yesterday. Maybe that Snorlax doesn't have best attack move. I got to say Vaporeon is damn strong
     
    Vaporeon is still strong and again much of it is thanks to how much HP it has.

    It might not be as strong as it was before, but it still crushes the other two Eeveelutions. The Hydro Pump buff certainly helped.

    Dragonite, Lapras, Snorlax and Vaporeon still reign up top. Exeggutor and Arcanine get honorable mentions. Arcanine just doesn't get to shine a whole lot due to how many Vaporeons are around.
     
    I'm very close to getting victreebel and exeggutor so will be interesting to see how good they are against vaporeon. Pokemon Go needs a decent electric type, water Pokemon seem to be very strong, at least it is making me appreciate grass types for the first time!
     
    VisualJae said:
    Vaporeon is still strong and again much of it is thanks to how much HP it has.
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    How strong would you say he is now compared to before? You're kind of my source on all competitive info in GO so I'm curious to see your opinions. Do you think he's still right up at the top or ducking down a bit now?

    Personally I've found Lapras to be absurd recently. He was strong before the patch but blimey has he gone crazy now. Buffs to most of his moves on top of an already beastly set of base stats is just crazy. I'm getting a lot of benefit from this as my Lapras is taking down Pokémon he wouldn't have dreamt of beating in the past but oh boy does he feel strong. Dragonite is one I've always been a bit disappointed with - he's never felt at all threatening when I'm taking him on in gyms so that's a bit of a shame.
     
    Squirrel said:
    How strong would you say he is now compared to before? You're kind of my source on all competitive info in GO so I'm curious to see your opinions. Do you think he's still right up at the top or ducking down a bit now?

    Personally I've found Lapras to be absurd recently. He was strong before the patch but blimey has he gone crazy now. Buffs to most of his moves on top of an already beastly set of base stats is just crazy. I'm getting a lot of benefit from this as my Lapras is taking down Pokémon he wouldn't have dreamt of beating in the past but oh boy does he feel strong. Dragonite is one I've always been a bit disappointed with - he's never felt at all threatening when I'm taking him on in gyms so that's a bit of a shame.
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    Which Lapras moves got buffed?

    I just acquired a Lapras (freaking yay!!!! =D =D) but was disappointed to see his charge attack is Dragon Pulse. Quick attack is Frost Breath though, so that's cool.

    I'm worried that his moveset simply isn't good enough, wondering if I should not level him up right now and just hope I get another one some day. How likely is it that I'll get another, though?
     
    Sirindu said:
    Which Lapras moves got buffed?

    I just acquired a Lapras (freaking yay!!!! =D =D) but was disappointed to see his charge attack is Dragon Pulse. Quick attack is Frost Breath though, so that's cool.

    I'm worried that his moveset simply isn't good enough, wondering if I should not level him up right now and just hope I get another one some day. How likely is it that I'll get another, though?
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    Ice Shard and Blizzard (went from 60 to 100 BP from memory, crazy buff) are the ones I was talking about since those are the moves my Lapras has haha. I haven't kept up with the other changes so the others may have been too but Lapras in general just feels very strong right now. Dragon Pulse is definitely iffy, lack of STAB and only super effective against Dragon which obviously a STAB Ice-type attack would have covered anyway so not ideal but honestly I don't think you could really go wrong with Lapras in general right now.
     
    Judging from the gyms I pass each day, most of them are controlled by either Vaporeon or Snorlax, I see a couple of Arcanines from time to time also.
     
    Limey-chan said:
    Judging from the gyms I pass each day, most of them are controlled by either Vaporeon or Snorlax, I see a couple of Arcanines from time to time also.
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    I still tend to see the same with Vaporeon but I get the impression that that's more due to him being so easy to get hold of whilst still being pretty strong. I imagine even if he was average we'd still be seeing a lot of Vaporeon around the place so it's hard to say how much of a power measure that is for him haha. Something like Snorlax is a lot more interesting as it's pretty rare but Vaporeon I think is mostly attributed to a mixture of being very easy to obtain and having naturally high CP values to look impressive.
     
    Squirrel said:
    How strong would you say he is now compared to before? You're kind of my source on all competitive info in GO so I'm curious to see your opinions. Do you think he's still right up at the top or ducking down a bit now?
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    Vaporeon is still at the top for the reasons I listed above, though the damage output is a little less overall with the big Water Gun nerf. But it's all about that HP pool. Pokémon with a lot of HP and can also deal damage will reign up top. Again, Dragonite, Snorlax, Lapras, Vaporeon. That's what they all have in common. We just see Vaporeon get targeted a lot because out of those four, which one do you think is the easiest to obtain?

    The updates mostly brought a lot of lower tier Pokémon up to some respectability. Victreebel and Nidoqueen are some noteworthy contenders, though in 1v1 fights against something like Snorlax and Lapras with equal CP, the former will go down.

    It gets far more complicated when you want to decide what Pokémon with what movesets to use for attacking and defending. For example, you may want a Vaporeon with Hydro Pump for attacking now, but you may want one with Water Pulse for defending, due to how the AI selects the Pokémon's attacks at different intervals. Though you still can't go wrong with Hydro Pump for defending.
     
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