The ultimate Chansey/Blissey!!!

[Fr0st]

Well, heres how it works. You come in on something u can outspeed and use substitute because most trainers will switch to there S.talker or their status absorber when Breloom shows his face. Then your opponent is in a huge problem cause he is facing a breloom with a substitute up. It can take some severe damage or it can be put to sleep. It's an amazing combo. Now no more questions about this as we have gone extremely off-topic

 

[Lord Mike]

You people have a lot of strategies. Whatever floats there you guys' boats.

 

[Mullet]

This is getting a bit off topic, but why use Substitute when you have Spore? Its pointless. You're just wasting HP.

Subseed and Subpunch. Breloom is really under rated it packs quite a punch.

 

[Lord Mike]

Subseed and Subpunch. Breloom is really under rated it packs quite a punch.

I was just simply trying to suggest something, but I couldn't think about anything else at the moment. I wasn't expecting this to turn into a discussion about Breloom. This is going way offtopic so lets get ontopic.

Blissey is a good special wall and Cleric. It doesn't stand physical attacks that well, and that's what Substitute is good for. Aromathreapy heals the party making Blissey a great Cleric. Then again if you don't want Substitute you can have a SkarmBliss. A trainer using Blissey should make some wise decisions though. I don't know if CounterBliss will be successful, but you never know. You guys probably know more about Blissey considering that I really only make UU teams.

 

[Rubberbandman]

I was just simply trying to suggest something, but I couldn't think about anything else at the moment. I wasn't expecting this to turn into a discussion about Breloom. This is going way offtopic so lets get ontopic.

Blissey is a good special wall and Cleric. It doesn't stand physical attacks that well, and that's what Substitute is good for. Aromathreapy heals the party making Blissey a great Cleric. Then again if you don't want Substitute you can have a SkarmBliss. A trainer using Blissey should make some wise decisions though. I don't know if CounterBliss will be successful, but you never know. You guys probably know more about Blissey considering that I really only make UU teams.

No one I know uses substitute on Bliss, not even noobs.:\
Substitute wont really help Bliss, its just wasting a slot for the whore imo.

 

[Lord Mike]

No one I know uses substitute on Bliss, not even noobs.:\
Substitute wont really help Bliss, its just wasting a slot for the whore imo.

I never said you have to use Substitute. Besides, just because your friends don't use it doesn't mean other people don't.

 

[Fr0st]

People dont use substitute on Bliss... Mainly because its lack of baton pass and that almost all physical hits would break its subs

 

[Lord Mike]

People dont use substitute on Bliss... Mainly because its lack of baton pass and that almost all physical hits would break its subs

I never said you had to. I was simply stating what Blissey can be used for. If you do think Substitute isn't good on Blissey, then fine.

 

[Mullet]

I never said you had to. I was simply stating what Blissey can be used for. If you do think Substitute isn't good on Blissey, then fine.

That is just the thing we don't think we know that Sub is not a good move on Bliss it won't really protect it. An example of that would be this:

Trainer sends out CB Machamp.
Bliss used Sub.
Machamp Breaks sub with Cross Chop.
Bliss uses some move.
Machamp used Cross Chop
Bliss fainted.

Good game Blissey. Bliss won't T-wave Machamp because without S-Toss it has no reason to Sub, without Aroma it can't be the cleric you want it to be and Softboiled is common sense.

 

[Lord Mike]

That is just the thing we don't think we know that Sub is not a good move on Bliss it won't really protect it. An example of that would be this:

Bliss used Sub.
Trainer sends out CB Machamp.
Machamp Breaks sub with Cross Chop
Bliss uses some move.
Machamp used Cross Chop
Bliss fainted.

Good game Blissey. Bliss won't T-wave Machamp because without S-Toss it has no reason to Sub, without Aroma it can't be the cleric you want it to be and Softboiled is common sense.

Ok. I guess you're right. I'm just not good with Blissey. You guys obviously have more experience with it, so never mind my advice.

 

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

I'm not that good with Blissey either, really. I prefer power Pokemon. I was just trying something new for a change, and decided to share it. And I got an idea: Counterbliss + Focus Band. If Focus Band works, then it is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO. Note: I bought this strategy in the Mauville Game Corner. (stupid pun that basically means that you better have good luck if you want to trust this one.)

 

[Mullet]

I'm not that good with Blissey either, really. I prefer power Pokemon. I was just trying something new for a change, and decided to share it. And I got an idea: Counterbliss + Focus Band. If Focus Band works, then it is a pretty much guaranteed OHKO. Note: I bought this strategy in the Mauville Game Corner. (stupid pun that basically means that you better have good luck if you want to trust this one.)

Focus Band is a bad hax item that is generally looked down upon because it all comes down to lukc and skill should be used to win battles. Plus Leftovers is the ONLY item that Bliss should use.

 

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

Okay. You know, I didn't expect that this many people would come to debate over Blissey movesets.

 

[Mullet]

Okay. You know, I didn't expect that this many people would come to debate over Blissey movesets.

Most of it was telling people why the stuff they posted won't work. Just go with the one I posted on the first page.

 

[Lord Mike]

Yeah, that was a pretty good set Mullet.

The EVs would probably be in Defense and Special Defense, but that's my opinion.

 

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

I wouldn't bother getting Defense EV's for Blissey, its Defense sucks beyond repair, EV's or no EV's. By the way, how exactly do you get EV's? Different Pokemon give different EV's, right? Like, Mightyena gives attack, Clamperl gives defense... I'm gonna have to retrain... Houndoom for Sp. Attack and Metagross for Attack. Blissey is pretty much unfixable/unimprovable, EV's or not.

 

[Ice demon]

Defense EVs have been blissey's Godsend. It makes her FAR more durable.... I don't have NB with me at the moment so i cant give u stat comparisons or damage calculations..I'll leave that up to Mullet...

 

[Fr0st]

Ok ill take care of that seeing that Mullet isnt here atm. So it depends on what poke but ill use Adamant CBDuggy as my example as it traps Blissey alot and just lols. So here we go

Blissey with zero defence EVs and Neutral nature is takes...
100% damage from Adamant CBduggys Earthquake (i hope i did this right)

Blissey with Max Defence takes...
49%-58% from the same Duggys Earthquake.

With leftover recovery that Blissey can take 3 hits and can therefore kill Duggy if it Stoss's on the switch. Quite a difference if u ask me... (Again sorry if i did that rong)

 

[Mullet]

Ok ill take care of that seeing that Mullet isnt here atm. So it depends on what poke but ill use Adamant CBDuggy as my example as it traps Blissey alot and just lols. So here we go

Blissey with zero defence EVs and Neutral nature is takes...
100% damage from Adamant CBduggys Earthquake (i hope i did this right)

Blissey with Max Defence takes...
49%-58% from the same Duggys Earthquake.

With leftover recovery that Blissey can take 3 hits and can therefore kill Duggy if it Stoss's on the switch. Quite a difference if u ask me... (Again sorry if i did that rong)

It seems right and Duggy will get OHKO'd by Ice Beam if you spread Bliss's EVs correctly.

 

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

Ya lost me there. By duggy do you mean Dugtrio? Because it seems to be coming up a lot.