Thoughts on cloning

[Happy Dude]

Alot of silly posts in this thread I see "Oh lolz itd be kewl to have a copi of miself nstuff"

But in all seriousness I think the positives out-weigh the negatives a lot. We can potentially save lifes by cloning cells. I seriously don't see why people would be against it.

Sure it is Immoral to some (Some people will always think that For reasons I do not understand) But Like I said before I feel that the positives out-weigh the Negatives and there is a lot of potential in cloning.

 

[The Shadow]

From now on any post such as kewl I wud clone mi self and destroy evrybody or anything like that is unecceptable. Thanks Happy Dude. And when we clone our clone lives forever it can't die.

 

[Blastoise]

Cloning opens up a wide variety of possibilities for organ donation; I'm not talking about cloning whole organisms here, but rather, simply cloning single organs for this purpose. If it can be made to be a cheap and quick process, many lives could be saved.

 

[The Shadow]

I would say that for one organ would be around $300. That's probably why people do fund raisers to support hospitals.

 

[destinedjagold]

cloning may be good, so if we die.., we can still continue our lives, however, cloning may copy ourselves completely, but it can't copy our soul. If we die, then we are dead, and we can't just simply *Ahh.., my clone~... Come to me~... It's time I take your place~... Whooo~*.., or maybe we can do that, since a clone has no spirit. *Confused*

 

[Jaimes]

Seriously these responses are still getting stupid. Does anyone here actually know what cloning is? :S

A clone is not a copy of someone
A clone is not a brainless individual that can be ordered around.
A clone is not an 'extra life'
A clone doesn't live for ever or live less than another individual.
And don't even get me started on that 'spirit/soul' rubbish..

A clone IS an individual. A clone is another organism with identical genes. Compare identical twins/triplets - these are natural clones. It's not as if one is brainless, can't think for itself or doesn't live.


Think of a clone being like a close sibling if anything...instead of some sort of zombie ¬_¬

 

[The Shadow]

Seriously these responses are still getting stupid. Does anyone here actually know what cloning is? :S

A clone is not a copy of someone
A clone is not a brainless individual that can be ordered around.
A clone is not an 'extra life'
A clone doesn't live for ever or live less than another individual.
And don't even get me started on that 'spirit/soul' rubbish..

A clone IS an individual. A clone is another organism with identical genes. Compare identical twins/triplets - these are natural clones. It's not as if one is brainless, can't think for itself or doesn't live.


Think of a clone being like a close sibling if anything...instead of some sort of zombie ¬_¬

Quoted for truth.

A clone can be a smart person. Probably a smarter person than you if you were cloned.

 

[Jordan]

• Cloning of one persons genes can provide a child for an infertile couple.

Yet, evolution (to adapt by changing, not necessarily into another species) are better suited with variation of genes, not exact copies. Asexually reproduced organisms tend to grow quickly, and hence, die quickly (it is better to have not loved at all than to have love and lost I always say.) Plus, say you clone the genes of the father to make a child, once he is a teenager, he will look exactly like his father, which would cause some awkward moments.

Though cloning organs to save lives are okay in my opinions.

Jordan.

 

[latioslegends]

I sort of despise cloning (Just something to do with my religon when I think about it).

 

[The Shadow]

Clonings not a sin. Never since I checked.

 

[Jaimes]

Yet, evolution (to adapt by changing, not necessarily into another species) are better suited with variation of genes, not exact copies. Asexually reproduced organisms tend to grow quickly, and hence, die quickly (it is better to have not loved at all than to have love and lost I always say.) Plus, say you clone the genes of the father to make a child, once he is a teenager, he will look exactly like his father, which would cause some awkward moments.

I'm going to credit you there, because if you really are 13, then you just made a very sensible and scientifically evaluated response. Hats off to you there.
Firstly though, in terms of creating genetic variation, theres not really much difference due to the human control to withstand changes off the environment.
Theoretically a clone of a working gamete is what would be beneficial- the success rate of in vitro is rather low, but by taking 2 male & female gametes and making multiple clones, the likelihood would be virtually guaranteed.
You could clone a genetic copy of an adult as well, but there would probably be a 20 odd year age gap to go with it. Some people might want that, if they think that their genes are so great (but are still single).

 

[latioslegends]

It ain't a sin. I am just saying that creating life like this just does not feel right to me.

 

[The Shadow]

Then why did you post in the first place. Well never mind.

Edit:I have now made a poll

 

[Merzbau]

Cloning could be useful if we worked out the moral bugs.

If scientists could grow singular organs in a lab somehow, I would be wonderfully in support of that, though.

Way more useful and less morally wrong, than cloning.

 

[The Shadow]

Can clones reproduce. Just a question.

 

[Eruption]

I was wondering what you'll might think on cloning. For those of you who don't know it's real. The first animal to be cloned was a sheep name Dolly. Any way what if we got cloned what would you tell your clone to do, do you think it will betray you. So discuss. It would be good to clone if you were about to die and needed another organ. You could get it from your clone.

Wow? Cloning exists?

I've always wanted cloning even over time travel.

 

[The Shadow]

You didn't know that. Where have you been.

 

[Jordan]

I'm going to credit you there, because if you really are 13, then you just made a very sensible and scientifically evaluated response. Hats off to you there.
Firstly though, in terms of creating genetic variation, theres not really much difference due to the human control to withstand changes off the environment.
Theoretically a clone of a working gamete is what would be beneficial- the success rate of in vitro is rather low, but by taking 2 male & female gametes and making multiple clones, the likelihood would be virtually guaranteed.
You could clone a genetic copy of an adult as well, but there would probably be a 20 odd year age gap to go with it. Some people might want that, if they think that their genes are so great (but are still single).

I will reply each sentences by sections.
1)I suppose you are right about humans' ability to withstand the environment, though a little difference is still a difference :\.
2)It would be nice if the actions in bold can be administered, though it would not be an exact clone as implied at the beginning of the thread now would it?
3)A mutated gene that causes slow growth may solve the 20 age gap (just appearance, not counting on enhanced longevity, plus mutation is rare.)

Jordan.

P.S.: I am 13 but my 14th birthday is coming up on the 30th.

 

[Gummy]

Not sure if this was said before but wouldn't cloning stop evolution? With no reproduction, you're using the same genes over and over again. The clone will have the same immunities, allergies, etc, as the original.

P.S.: I am 13 but my 14th birthday is coming up on the 30th.

I'll be here to wish you a happy birthday.

 

[wmoor0826]

How would they know which me is me?

How would YOU know which you is you?