As I recall, I had the hardest time with Fantina. I don't think it really registered with me that she had Ghost types because the gym puzzle is math and idk. I didn't get the name pun, either. Went over my head. lol But yeah, needless to say, I wasn't really ready for Ghost types and I got wiped...and even after I came back knowing what to do, Mismagius still murdered me.
4th Gen Toughest Gym Battle
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Plat's Ghost gym, hands down. My 2nd nuzrun for that game, I ground hard and tried to form a good strategy, and yes, I still lost a mon to it. It doesn't help that there's Shadow ball off an already strong special hitter...
When you think about it, her puzzle didn't really suggest a Ghost-type Gym at first. Platinum did make it more obvious though, but it also doesn't help that aren't many solid counters for the type in Sinnoh either.
Like I said quoting Syd, Ghost is a type that doesn't have many good counters in Sinnoh. Platinum makes it even worse since you can't get any Dark-types before the 3rd Gym, so you often have to rely on strong neutral attacks which leave you vulnerable due to her Mismagius' powerful special attacks such as Shadow Ball and Psybeam. It's one of the reasons why she's my most hated Sinnoh Gym Leader.
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Fantina was a huge problem for me in both games, when i first played diamond as a newb, i had a highly Overlevelled infernape so it wasnt hard, but any time i tried real strategy she was hard as hell
recently in a plat firemono (up to gym 4 iirc) i had to grind monferno and ponyta to level 30 each just to stand a chance against mismagius
recently in a plat firemono (up to gym 4 iirc) i had to grind monferno and ponyta to level 30 each just to stand a chance against mismagius
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I always remember Fantina being such a challenge. I'm currently doing a Pealr Nuzlocke and I hope I don't loose nothing too important to her haha
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^ Same thing over here, I found a lot of heartache battling Fantina in Platnium.
Hypnosis was a deadly move back in Gen 4 when the sleep status condition seem'd like it would last forever. + Drifblim was such a powerhouse for the level you were battling her on
Hypnosis was a deadly move back in Gen 4 when the sleep status condition seem'd like it would last forever. + Drifblim was such a powerhouse for the level you were battling her on
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The hardest Gym leader for me in gen 4 was Gardenia. I used to only train my starter Pokemon back then and the only way I managed to beat her was when I kept grinding that damn prinplup till it evolved into an Empoleon.
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dosent it learn pluck at a fairly low-ish level? if you're high enough to outspeed roserade you should be able to at least 2hko
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Torterra learns bite at level 22 and crunch at level 45. It worked pretty good for me when I was starting out. Froslass, on the other hand... that took me a couple tries. I had to go underground for an hour until I found a heart scale and re-teach aerial ace to my staraptor so I could hit, but my staraptor got destroyed by froslass's blizzard. Ended up killing it with a critical hit from gyarados...
*Edit: Grotle learns bite at level 22.
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I'm not counting Pokemon that learn Dark moves, just actual Dark-type Pokemon.
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I had trouble battlng Whitney. She seemed to be the toughest gymleader in the Heartgold Soulsilver games in my opinion. It was miltank in particular which I found it difficult to finish off. Especially when it uses milkdrink to regain health and Stomp to defeat my pokemon.
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Fantina in Platinum is a Nuzlocke ender for me regularly.
Claire is probably the only Johto gym I'd say poses any threat. On Whitney's Clefairy I use X-Items on a Geodude or Raticate to destroy her Miltank fast. X-Items are a life saver in every instance where you need to ensure you can snag a victory.
In Diamond/Pearl I'd still say Fantina is the toughest, but that's only cause she didn't get OHKO'd by my team the way the rest of the Gyms did. She actually put up a decent fight until my Floatzel finally get the Crunch on her.
Claire is probably the only Johto gym I'd say poses any threat. On Whitney's Clefairy I use X-Items on a Geodude or Raticate to destroy her Miltank fast. X-Items are a life saver in every instance where you need to ensure you can snag a victory.
In Diamond/Pearl I'd still say Fantina is the toughest, but that's only cause she didn't get OHKO'd by my team the way the rest of the Gyms did. She actually put up a decent fight until my Floatzel finally get the Crunch on her.
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