Ubers Sticky Web Team

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    Made a Sticky Web team in Ubers that seems to be doing alright, but was looking for ways to improve it.

    [PokeCommunity.com] Ubers Sticky Web Team

    Shuckle @ Mental Herb
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Sticky Web
    - Encore
    - Toxic
    - Rock Tomb

    Basically the only viable Sticky Web setter for Ubers. No need to have SR on here since another teammate can set that, and Rock Tomb prevents Shuckle from being complete Taunt/Magic Coat bait after Mental Herb is gone.

    [PokeCommunity.com] Ubers Sticky Web Team

    Mewtwo-Mega-Y @ Mewtwonite Y
    Ability: Insomnia
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    - Psystrike
    - Aura Sphere
    - Taunt
    - Ice Beam

    Mega Mewtwo Y is here to take care of Darkrai leads that will shut Shuckle down with Dark Void. Taunt is great for screwing with defensive pokes like Lugia, Giratina-A, Chansey, etc that could pose a problem. Also provides special attacking stuff.

    [PokeCommunity.com] Ubers Sticky Web Team

    Zekrom @ Life Orb
    Ability: Teravolt
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Claw
    - Bolt Strike
    - Draco Meteor
    - Roost

    Besides the obvious reason why I'm using it, Zekrom also benefits from Sticky Web being up, and destroys Lugia, Ho-oh, and Kyogre. Even with an Adamant nature Draco Meteor still 2HKOs non-specially defensive Primal Groudons switching in if rocks are up, and 2HKOs all Lando-Ts that switch in. Roost to heal off Life Orb recoil and such.

    [PokeCommunity.com] Ubers Sticky Web Team

    Kyogre-Primal @ Blue Orb
    Ability: Primordial Sea
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature
    - Origin Pulse
    - Thunder
    - Ice Beam
    - Calm Mind

    Primal Kyogre resists Zekrom's Ice weakness and gets rid off the intense sun that Primal Groudons bring. It also likes the SW support.

    [PokeCommunity.com] Ubers Sticky Web Team

    Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - U-turn

    The team's Stealth Rock setter. Also checks opposing Zekroms and Primal Groudons to some degree.

    [PokeCommunity.com] Ubers Sticky Web Team

    Arceus-Steel @ Iron Plate
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Iron Head
    - Defog
    - Extreme Speed
    - Swords Dance

    And of course you can't go without something to deal with GeoXern, so that's what Steel Arceus is here for, as a more offensive answer than Aegislash. Squeezed Defog onto it because the team doesn't really appreciate hazards on my side. Went with the EV spread because I wanted it to have some bulk since +2 Moonblasts still hurt a lot, but idk if I should use a different spread or what.

    So....ideas/thoughts?
     
    Take note that Primal Kyogre is a rather shaky check to Primal Groudon because while it can switch into Lava Plume, it won't like taking Earthquake or Precipice Blades.

    Primal Groudon is pretty much mandatory on Uber teams nowadays because of its sheer versatility. It's also a neat backup check to Xerneas if Arceus happens to go down. Ask yourself why you'd use Therian Landorus over Groudon:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake/Precipice Blades
    -Lava Plume/Stone Edge
    -Roar/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/56 Def/200 SDef
    Item: Red Orb

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Precipice Blades
    -Fire Punch/Stone Edge
    -Dragon Tail/Stone Edge
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 224 HP/240 Atk/32 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Red Orb

    or
    -Rock Polish
    -Precipice Blades
    -Dragon Claw/Swords Dance
    -Overheat/Stone Edge
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/96 SDef/56 Spe
    Item: Red Orb

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Precipice Blades
    -Stone Edge
    -Thunder Wave
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/100 Atk/144 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Red Orb
     
    Primal Groudon is pretty much mandatory on Uber teams nowadays because of its sheer versatility. It's also a neat backup check to Xerneas if Arceus happens to go down. Ask yourself why you'd use Therian Landorus over Groudon:

    As awesome as Primal Groudon is, the issue with putting it on this team is that then half the team is weak to Ground with nothing to cover that at all, which is pretty bad when Primal Groudon is so common and there's other Ground attacks you occasionally run into like Ground Arceus Judgements or Shaymin-S Earth Powers.

    Unless you had ideas to deal with that?
     
    As awesome as Primal Groudon is, the issue with putting it on this team is that then half the team is weak to Ground with nothing to cover that at all, which is pretty bad when Primal Groudon is so common and there's other Ground attacks you occasionally run into like Ground Arceus Judgements or Shaymin-S Earth Powers.

    Unless you had ideas to deal with that?

    If you have problems with Groudon, then consider adding in Lugia, Ho-oh or Yveltal. Even though they won't like Stone Edge or taking statuses, either can switch into Groudon's Ground STAB; Ho-oh can even switch into Groudon's Fire STAB:

    Lugia:
    -Toxic
    -Roost
    -Whirlwind/Dragon Tail
    -Reflect/Aeroblast/Substitute/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Ho-oh:
    -Sacred Fire
    -Brave Bird
    -Earthquake
    -Sleep Talk
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/196 Atk/52 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Choice Band

    or
    -Sacred Fire
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Substitute/Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/196 Atk/52 SDef/12 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Sacred Fire
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Whirlwind
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/208 Def/52 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    Yveltal:
    -Dark Pulse
    -Oblivion Wing
    -Sucker Punch
    -Taunt
    Nature: Rash
    EVs: 24 HP/48 Atk/252 SAtk/184 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Black Glasses/Dread Plate

    or
    -Foul Play
    -Taunt
    -Roost
    -Sucker Punch/Toxic
    Nature: Impish/Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Dark Pulse
    -Foul Play
    -Oblivion Wing
    -U-turn
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 32 HP/4 Def/248 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    IMO, I think Poison Arceus is better over Steel Arceus, as the poison chance from Poison Jab can help, plus Ground, Ghost and Normal Arceus do Swords Dance abuse much better:
    -Poison Jab
    -Defog
    -Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp
    -Recover
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/200 Def/56 Spe
    Item: Toxic Plate
     
    Hilariously groudon can actually take on primal groudon lol. Also yeah Kyogre is a very bad groudon check, since when it switches in the weather changes and Ur team can get completely destroyed by a double dance set.
     
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