[UU RMT] Team SubLO Kingdra Weak [Peaked at #1 on Leaderboard]

[Dark Azelf]

So i was getting annoyed with P-Z and Cress along with Foresight Top so i created this team a few days ago to beat them and to hopefully just be solid and decent. However it has by far surpassed my expectations and gave me the #1 position on the leaderboard a few days as shown here. Im semi retiring this however because i got bored of laddering in the end.

As for the team well, its far from perfect and id kinda like to smooth the rough edges out so with your help maybe we can sort out those minor problems.
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Team Overview.
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Team in Depth.
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Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 248 HP/76 SAtk/180 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Surf

I chose Cloyster as a lead because it has alot of things going for it. Its a fantastic lead these days being able to set up on the majority of them at least once. This immediately puts me at an advantage and i can often get up 3+ against things like Trick scarf Uxie. Cloyster can also 2hko Rotom with SR up with Surf and also Froslass. Spirotomb is mere set up fodder for this set so it would be safe to say the only ghost who really is a problem for this guy is Mismagius. Spikes + Toxic Spikes is the next reason i chose this, not alot gets both in the lower tiers that and nothing gets them which can spin also, so basically this guy is a Forretress rip off and we all know how good he is. Surf is chosen as my STAB move so i can hit Froslass and this also lets me nail Drapion who was a problem when i was running Payback, this also hits Absol hard. Just a note on Toxic Spikes, yes whilst they are "bad" in uu they usually prove to be kryptonite to teams who cannot absorb them. Ill usually set up one layer of normal Spikes and then go for one layer of T-Spikes after my first layer of normal Spikes to check a number of threats. Cloysters immunity to crits also makes it even better. =P HP evs round down Stealth Rock damage and the S.Att evs just give me a little bite against ghosts, whilst the s.def evs let me not die to resisted special attacks. :x

Cloyster Vs top 10 leads

*image removed*- Free Spikes. If it uses Taunt its sacrificed a coverage slot so im ok with that and i can just Surf it lol.

*image removed*- Usually results in 3 + layers of Spikes. Ill set up Toxic Spikes if its a dual screener to put the sweepers on a timer.

*image removed*- Keep surfing it until it goes away. Dont see why this is even a problem anymore lol. Also as mentioned its a bad pivot spin blocker as that is extremely easy to predict.
*image removed*- I go straight to Milotic or Chansey to get rocks up.

*image removed*- I get up one layer of Spikes and then go to Milotic.
*image removed*- Straight to Tomb or Chansey.
*image removed*- Rotom walls it and i keep Discharging until it goes away to stall out rain or force the switch in to take paralysis.
*image removed*- Free Spikes.
*image removed*- Free Spikes.
*image removed*-Free Spikes and if its the offensive one i still get one layer of Spikes up and also go to Chansey with SR.

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Chansey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/6 Spd/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Stealth Rock
- Softboiled

My third and last layer of residual damage, Stealth Rock and Chansey sure is a good user of the move. Aromatherapy also heals Spiritomb since i rely on it alot and i pack Rest on it so yeah. I know not havint Toxic sucks but what would rather have, Stealth Rock or Toxic ? Yeah i thought so. =P That and i have status elsewhere. Anyway Chansey supports my team first and foremost and that is that im trying to amplify on this set rather than it just being a special wall. Seismic Toss and Softboiled are obligatory and if you need to ask what they are for, get off my thread lol. Cansey also acts as an insurance policy against Houndoom, P-Z and other powerful special attackers. There is alot to say about Chansey really though, she just flat out works and brings amazing support options to a stall team hence her inclusion here. Usually if i get SR + 1 layer of Spikes up i will win more times than not.
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Spiritomb (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/6 Def/252 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Rest
- Toxic
- Sucker Punch
- Dark Pulse / Faint Attack.

A Spikes abusing guy has to have a Spin blocker right ? That is what Spiritomb does for this team. Also note the EV spread, this is made to beat NP Mismag and NP P-Z and ensure i dont get swept by threats if they break through with Sucker Punch which serves almost as insurance policy. Faint Attack will probably be going over Dark Pulse as it helps vs CM cress if Milotic is down. Either way that slot is a reliable attack. Toxic however isnt standard and there is one reason for its inclusions, NP Bulky Porygon-z. With Toxic it can no longer sweep me, especially since with Toxic it is on a timer and wont get past Chansey or even Tomb most times. Rest is here as it lets me beat stallrein, Sub roost Articuno and Moltres 1 vs 1 and also Clefable via pressure and is a better method of recovery than Pain Split. Spirotomb has been this team's mvp he has won me many matches.
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Rotom @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/212 Def/4 Spd/42 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Will-o-wisp
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Rotom is here as my secondary spin blocker which auto stops the Foresight Rapid Spin as people are using Hitmontop WAY to much these days so it ensures i keep my Spikes up. Rotom also stops Swellow and now Scyther extremely well. That and he also beats physical Rapid Spinners such as Donphan who can really hurt Spiritomb with EQ with no Def evs. Rest and Sleep Talk keep me alive and also let me absorb status well. Will-O-Wisp may be silly with Toxic Spikes but it does help if they have an absorber for some status and it also shuts down physical threats well. Discharge is for STAB and the paralysis rate which is actually very funny, paralysing a threat wanting to come in whilst im snoozing. Rotom also acts as Feraligat'r/water insurance which he actually does pretty well. The 4 speed evs beat Jolly Aggron who is a threat to this team. Rotom is a very cool pokemon though and is damn reliable no matter what forme its in.
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Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP/168 Def/16 Spd/72 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Roar
- Synthesis
- Sludge Bomb
- Leaf Storm

Venusaur is the first part of the grass + water combo that covers so much and basically holds my team together covering many niches in this team. The first being that he absorbs for T-Spikes, next he is my primary phazer and general go to guy because he is just THAT good. Roar stops things setting up on me and racks up entry hazards nicely which is cool. Venusair also ensures i beat other grass types, i.e other Venusaur, SD Sceptile and SD Leafeon extremely well. Leaf Storm is here for power, especially vs guys like Toxicroak when Energy Ball wasnt cutting it. Sludge Bomb as said is for other grass types. The evs are not really that overcomplicated, 72 S.Def evs ensure i survive a Nasty Plot LO Shadow Ball from Mismagius and the speed beats Adamant Aggron because its an idiot and the rest are dumped in HP and Def to let me take assaults from other Venusaur, Azumarril etc. Seriously though Venusaur is amazing as he fits in on like any team type.

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Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 176 HP/248 Def/86 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Recover
- Haze
- Ice Beam
- Surf

The last part of the Grass + Wate combo that is so effective in UU. Milotic grants me a good switch into Houndoom, Moltres and a whole other vast assortment of other pokemon such as and not limited to Altaria, Blaziken etc. Surf + Recover are a given on such a bulky pokemon whilst Ice Beam stops grass types coming in scott free, that and it destroys Altaria. Haze was thrown in as a win condition and last Pokemon stopper. That Cradilly cursed too many times ? Haze it away. Cress decided to try and sweep ? H.A.Z.E.D and outstalled. Baton Pass team owning me ? Hazed fool. You get the idea, Haze is just so useful these days. The evs arent really specific, 86 speed evs to beat Jolly Aggron, enough to hp + def to survive a CB Head Smash and just be able to tank away in general. Milotic has been a vital piece of this puzzle and it really does hold the team together. Milotic is still an amazing pokemon no matter what people say and still is amazing even with Raikou and Venusaur etc around.
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Defensive Threats (Credit to Heysup)

"image removed" Blastoise - Blastoise cannot spin vs this team period. Rotom owns it with Discharge

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Chansey - Set up bait for Cloyster, my Chansey and it also cannot touch Rotom or Venusaur well the former of which outstalls with with Rest Talk. Spirotomb also outstalls it. Not a threat.

"image removed" Claydol - Tomb owns this.

"image removed" Cloyster - Rotom + Tomb stop spin whilst my own Cloyster can spin away its crap.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Cradily - In SS not really much beats this. Milotic can Haze it however and i can outstall it and it cannot touch Venusaur if it has seed bomb as a lone attack.

"image removed" Cresselia - Haze Milotic outstalls this, Tomb also beats it.

"image removed" Donphan - Easy switch in for Rotom, Milotic and Venusaur.

"image removed" Mesprit - Tomb smacks it around.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Milotic - Venusaur and Cansey do very well, Tomb also outstalls them.

"image removed" Nidoqueen - Not a threat. T-Spikes are lol vs this team and Cloyster can spin away its SR and set up on it. Rotom and Milotic also waste it.

"image removed" Quagsire - Venusaur + Toxic. Also Cloyster set up bait.

"image removed" Regirock - Milotic + Haze. Venusaur also works.

"image removed" Registeel - Cloyster, Rotom etc.

"image removed" Rotom - Spirotomb is an amazing switch in for this.

"image removed" Slowbro - Chansey, Venusaur. Milotic can also Haze Calm Minds, whilst those without Psychic or Grass Knot are Closter bait. Tomb can also Toxic it and Rotom hits it hard with Discharge.

"image removed" Spiritomb - Cloyster set up fodder, Milotic can Haze attackers and Venusaur can nail them nicely and my own tomb can Toxic them. Usually waste themselves switching into W-O-W though lol.

"image removed" Umbreon - Roar, Cloyster set up bait, Haze curses, Toxic bait, yeah.... lol

"image removed" Uxie - Oh cool my fav lead. I usually get like 3 layers of Spikes up on this since they are the Trick scarf versions. If they dual screen ill set up T-Spikes too.

"image removed" Weezing - Milotic, Tomb outstalls it, Rotom beats it.
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Offensive Threats


"image removed" Absol - Pain in the ass, but ill just attack it to get whatever damage i can on it. Milotic can also survive. If Milotic is dead ill use Cloyster and Lure superpowers and go to Venu. Tomb can also finish it off at like 30% with Sucker and walls Psycho Cut versions full stop.

"image removed" Alakazam - Chansey, Tomb.


"image removed" Ambipom - Cloyster bait, also ghosts poop on this.

"image removed" Arcanine - Milotic.

"image removed" Azumarill - Venusaur, Milotic can Haze the Belly drummer. Cloyster can set up Spikes on it.

"image removed" Blaziken - Milotic.

"image removed" Drapion - Cloyster + Milotic.

"image removed" Feraligatr - Venusaur. Milotic can Haze in a pinch and also i have Rotom to take a hit if need be. Cloyster can also Surf it and with LO recoil, yeah and also Sucker Punch at lwo health.
"image removed" Froslass - I Surf these as leads for the 2HKO, its also bad as a pivot for spin blocking imo because that is so easy to predict lol. Luckily Cloyster fares well vs most other ghosts too.

"image removed" Hariyama - Tomb, Rotom, Venusaur.

"image removed" Hitmonlee - Tomb, Rotom, Venusaur.

"image removed" Hitmontop - Sup, dual ghosts make you useless.

"image removed" Houndoom - Milotic and also Chansey in a Pinch.

"image removed" Kabutops - Dont let it Swords Dance, dealth fodder low health stuff for LO recoil and then Sucker Punch with Tomb. Milotic can also take a hit along with Venu.

"image removed" Kangaskhan - The is actually a pain in the ass, but Cloyster does well, if not ill just hit it with whatever i have.

"image removed" Leafeon - Venusaur.

"image removed" Magmortar - Milotic + Chansey.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Mismagius - Tomb

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Moltres - Milotic + Chansy

"image removed" Omastar - Cloyster uses this as set up fodder and can also spin. Venusaur beats it and so does Chansey if its the sweeper.

"image removed" Porygonz - Spiritomb + Chansey beat this.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Raikou - Chansey + Venusaur.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Rhyperior - Milotic + Venu.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Scyther - Stealth Rock, Rotom, Sucker Punch.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Swellow - Rotom is an amazing counter.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Torterra - Venusaur.

*pokemonelite2000 image removed* Venusaur - My own Venusaur and then Sucker Punch after LO recoil at low health.

Big Problem : -

Aggron + no rock resist....yeah..if Milotic is below 65% then Aggron has the potential to school me so id like to sort this out.

Rate away i guess. =P

 

[.Gamer]

I guess I have to give it a 10/10

I don't know anything about UU except that spiritomb is amazing in it. So I can't help (not like i could anwyay =P). Cant you just PHaze it with Venu and/or leaf storm?

 

[Skip Shot]

I guess what you could do to help sort out the Aggron issue is place something like Hariyama or Steelix on the team, but really I can't find room for it here. atm best thing you could do is get a WoW on it hopefully with Rotom and then Spikes/Roar Shuffle/Synthesis recovery with Venusuar could somewhat deal with it, but yea really a bulky rock resist would work best.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I guess what you could do to help sort out the Aggron issue is place something like Hariyama or Steelix on the team, but really I can't find room for it here. atm best thing you could do is get a WoW on it hopefully with Rotom and then Spikes/Roar Shuffle/Synthesis recovery with Venusuar could somewhat deal with it, but yea really a bulky rock resist would work best.

Oh believe me ive tried to fit in near everything on this team. From Registeel > Chansey to even Rhyperior but in the end i always lose something and it just takes away from my support.

I dunno, its really annoying trying to fit in a rock resist and retain what i have support wise already.

 

[Alternative]

If you don't like Aggron, why not use Earthquake and Power Whip on Venu to help? EQ is a 4x Super Effective, as you should know and Power Whip is still for coverage, plus EQ doesn't well against other Venusaur if I'm correct.

 

[BartCiao]

Shouldn't you evolve your Chansey to a Blissey?

 

[Opposite Day]

Blissey is from the OU tier, thus he cannot use it if he intends the team to remain in UU.
(but "knowing" Darth A, he would probably win with it no matter what)

 

[BartCiao]

Blissey is from the OU tier, thus he cannot use it if he intends the team to remain in UU.
(but "knowing" Darth A, he would probably win with it no matter what)

But how can the group leaders set up rules for OU and UU? Can they kick you the group or something like that? Sorry, I'm not experienced at competitive play... YET!

 

[.Gamer]

But how can the group leaders set up rules for OU and UU? Can they kick you the group or something like that? Sorry, I'm not experienced at competitive play... YET!

Its just understood that you pokemon are in certain tiers. But you can use any pokemon from a lower tier in a higher tier but not vice versa, now lets not hijack this thread, use the Simple Q&A.