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What do you think of this movement?

PkMnTrainer Yellow said:
I think perhaps you should take into mind that it's aimed at a LOT of girls, and that perhaps the chance of success isn't so low that none would succeed.

Is it unreasonable to say that giving someone something as little as a chance would heavily outweigh the losses of giving many a chance if a couple went well?
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Guillermo said:
I think perhaps you need to take into mind that one or two girls around the entire world who do so aren't going to change the lives of everyone else on Earth.
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...I don't think that's a strong enough point. relatively speaking why should 10% of the world be nothing compared to everyone?

Zet said:
To lower HIV, I just wear a condom and the problem is already half way gone.

Also how did a girl who owns a business of milking a herd of cows be able to bring clean water to a village? Wouldn't she need all the clean water for her cows first? Also giving her a school uniform and then taking it away just to milk a cow is stupid, they should have made her finish high school and college before giving her a horrible job that is done by machines now.


Though the music was pretty neat.
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Aaah civilization. Isn't it great? If only every civilization could be this great. <--- Intended Irony
 
Zet said:
To lower HIV, I just wear a condom and the problem is already half way gone.
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Unfortunately, the good ol' Catholic church forbids the wearing of condoms, so most of Africa's Catholic population is screwed in that regard. Even with the escalation of diseases like HIV and AIDs, the Vatican will not back down.
 
PkMnTrainer Yellow said:
...I don't think that's a strong enough point. relatively speaking why should 10% of the world be nothing compared to everyone
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Because 90% is more important than 10. A few girls looking after a cow isn't going to change the equal rights anyone has.
 
Well I'm gonna start my own movement... with black jack, and hookers!
 
@RTHookers, I took this thread seriously until the blackjack and hookers part which was intended to be lighthearted.
 
To quote Murakami Haruki...

"No. Never happen."

To do this, you would need to put a bullet in the head of human nature itself. Even if the girl was a saint... Even if every girl in the world was a saint, people are idiots.

I'm not saying all guys are evil. That is _not_ what I'm saying (Despite my behavior and OL personality, I'm a dude). I'm saying that the current state of the world precludes this movement.

So, I have another challenge: Topple the dictatorships and unstable governments, and replace them. It's more realistic.
 
Shanghai Alice said:
So, I have another challenge: Topple the dictatorships and unstable governments, and replace them. It's more realistic.
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I don't think this suggestion would work, but it's at least grounded in reality. Bad governments are a huge part of what keeps people in poverty. The trouble is when you can't get a stable, safe and working government to rise from the ashes of that dictatorship (Iraq) or unstable government (Somalia).

I don't mean to say that oppressive governments should be left alone, but when you knock one down you're risking the lives of everyone because all the dregs of society no longer have anything keeping them in check. At least giving something to these girls wouldn't be putting them at risk.
 
Guillermo said:
Because 90% is more important than 10. A few girls looking after a cow isn't going to change the equal rights anyone has.
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10% of the pouplation is estimated to be around 680,000,000 people.

That's six hundred eighty million.

One or two girls? A few? Just 10%? That's a blatant euphemism for 680,000,000 freakin' people! It's so far over the border into lying that it's not even funny.

The scale is WAY too huge for relative thinking like that. I think your point is in very poor taste.
 
Fox♠ said:
Don't get me wrong, the idea on paper is great, but in practice? it's never that black and white, as soon as the girl starts a business, human nature will inevitably kick in and she'll more than likely exploit people to boost her own profit.

It's like communsim, great on paper, not so great in action.
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I agree with everything in the above statement, although I would argue that Communism has never actually been followed through with. (i.e. state capitalism always takes over)
 
I wish I had a detailed explanation of the whole concept, but from the video I like the idea. It's obvious that this isn't going to solve all of the world's problems (no one said that), but that doesn't mean it's not a step in the right direction to help and promote female empowerment, particularly in impoverished areas. I definitely think this relates to feminism-which I think is a good thing-in the way that women are taking the role of the successful business owner or breadwinner for once (over the expectation for those roles to go towards men). I support it.
 
While this movement isn't exactly something I think will completely solve anything, it's a drop of water. It's a little wave that can maybe improve SOME THINGS for SOME PEOPLE!
So in the end I'm neutral.

I hope this movement gets enough attention to make a difference.
 
Scarf said:
I don't think this suggestion would work, but it's at least grounded in reality. Bad governments are a huge part of what keeps people in poverty. The trouble is when you can't get a stable, safe and working government to rise from the ashes of that dictatorship (Iraq) or unstable government (Somalia).

I don't mean to say that oppressive governments should be left alone, but when you knock one down you're risking the lives of everyone because all the dregs of society no longer have anything keeping them in check. At least giving something to these girls wouldn't be putting them at risk.
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I did my Economics coursework at Uni this year on just this.

My argument was essentially that the Military is nothing more than armed bureaucracy and like all other forms of bureaucracy it cannot be judged merely by its intentions. The intention of 'liberating' other nations may seem like a positive one (although, I tend to disagree) but government action must be judged by its effects, not its intentions. The minimum wage law is a prime example of this, but so is the military. I cannot think of one act of military intervention that has had only its intended effects, I can think of a great many that have had only harmful effects.

As to the site, it seems to think that 'investment' (ie, circulation of money) is the cornerstone of economic progress which is nonsense. A strong economy is defined by its ability to provide goods and services. Not that employement of women isn't beneficial to this.
 
This sounds really good! But... why just GIRLS? They aren't the only ones striving to survive in this world.
But seriously, this DOES seem like a very good movement. I have never heard of it until now.

Eh. To have a legitimate opninion on it, I'd have to do more research.
 
The thing with dictators is, there'll always be a new one to replace the ones removed. We need to find a way to empoer the people with a mindset that won't allow for dictators to conquor them.
 
Good intentions but pretty naive. Any movement where things have to work out exactly as planned or else it fails totally won't work in the real world.
 
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