i like the way Turtwig looked the most, so before i even got Diamond i was deadset on starting with Turtwig. and let me say, i know i made the right choice. i got the other two from GTS, but they really didn't work out that great. not like Turtwig. and i love Torterra's strength. Empoleon and Monferno just can't compare. the only downside to my little buddy is its type change when it evolves. but then again, doesn't anyone remember what happens to Venasaur? it becomes Grass/Poison, so that makes it succeptable to Psychic. although Torterra has a x2 weekness to Ice Type Pokémon, what are you doing putting a Grass type again an Ice type anyway? lol :laugh: