What truly makes people different...?

Well... everyone is different!!! but no... you have to be super cool to be different. Like Ryan is very different because of his tastes and because of the fact that he goes out of his way to be different.
 
i think every1 is different and what makes them different is userly what happens in their life and if every1 wasnt diff the world would be boring *if no 1 was diff we would b like M.I.B but they r still diff aswell anyway i hav confused myself again so im ganna stop typing now #.#
 
let's see, i'm different because i "could be popular" according to my sister, and i've been invited to hang out with popular kids, but i shun them like i'm amish. i'm different because i play pokemon, i watch power rangers, i pray a lot, i have a dog with 3 legs, i have a girlfriend that lives 3 states away, i want to be a pastor (unusual ambition), i don't hate anybody, i spend my weekends making really bad films, i get along with everybody but i only hang out with two guys... and other fun stuff... but that's all that comes to mind.
 
frostweaver said:
lol... But I don't think you know what I mean too ;p

To you it seems like what i'm saying is comparing oranges and apples. They are both fruits but are different (due to taste, feel and so on.) And you're trying to suggest some "more dynamic" differences. Like what you said in your post, you talked of a kid who cuts his hair "differently" and talks to his shoe. Well let's use this kid as an example then.

So you're trying to talk about "that" kind of differences (like the kid's differences). He's an obvious outcast due to his extreme differences. But really, why do you consider him as different? We think that his hair is cut in the "wrong place." We feel that he's a freak talking to his shoe. Why do we react this way? Because we're educated by the majority! What we see as "normal" is what the majority is doing. Not a lot of people talk to their shoes, so relatively the kid is different. Because his hair style is far too uncommon to be seen anywhere else, we consider that as odd. So really, we're talking about the same type of differences. All differences are based on majority. If it's not what the majority supports, then it is different.

In the past, European men wear wags. We see portraits of the French kings all of them wearing high heels and so on. In today's world, men wearing high heels would be cross dressing and it's just "different" and "weird." But in the past, that is fashion and that is what wealthy men of power should dress like. So why is there a difference? Majority back then supported men of status wearing high heels, and so therefore men of status NOT wearing high heels would be considered different. However, now men who are wearing high heels will be "different" and "odd" because the majority of men do not wear high heels. As the examples in both your case and mine, differences are just ANYTHING that is not supported and practiced by the majority.

Think that I'm talking about "just" apples and oranges? It's not like you're talking about anything else but pears and bananas either... =p

And of course I'm not offended. I just hope that you aren't. I personally love to participate in this kind of arguements and debates.

As you said youself, different is the opposite of the common. What is common and majority ALWAYS changes, and what our parents has taught us to be normal we consider to be normal. Unbeknownst to some people, 90% of our opinions are actually our parent's opinions or some manupulaitve form of them.

The kid with wierd hair and talks to his shoe may be considered normal in some galaxy far far away, but by OUR standards (I'm guessing the North American/English standards) that would be considered different.

And I know that EVERYTHING is different from eveything else in some sort of minute way...but to be really noticable in a vast sense would be different, and in turn strange...

But different does not mean wrong...

BOO ya!
 
Well, we're all different in a ton of different ways, our looks, attitudes, interests, friends, etc. I'm different then most kids at my school mainly becuase I don't have a huge ego and i'm not really arrogent at all (except when it comes to beating on dustins voldo in soul caliber 2).
 
Heh, many of you said "everybody's different." I think I ought to try to make that more clear. "Every fool is different."
 
22sa said:
Heh, many of you said "everybody's different." I think I ought to try to make that more clear. "Every fool is different."
Name me one man/woman (who's fully human but not fully God as well) alive on earth that is not a fool.

End of discussion regarding that ;p
 
frostweaver said:
Name me one man/woman (who's fully human but not fully God as well) alive on earth that is not a fool.

End of discussion regarding that ;p
So, I didn't make anything clearer for you?
[PokeCommunity.com] What truly makes people different...?
I'll try again! Folly causes difference.
 
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Purin said:
I was wondering: Is it the upbringing that one gets which affects his personality, that makes everyone different?
No two parents will be alike in every aspect, I think.
Personality development... I'm pretty sure it's about 50% genetics, and 50% environmental-caused.
 
22sa is right...a different environment causes changes in how people grow up...if two people grew up in the EXACT same environments (even though it's impossible let's just imagine it) those two people would still be different than each other, however, because they're parent's aren't the exact same...different DNA..

boo!
 
Purin said:
I was wondering: Is it the upbringing that one gets which affects his personality, that makes everyone different?
No two parents will be alike in every aspect, I think.
actually, I believe personality development is based primarily on the environment you were raised in, and your parents...genetics minutely affect personality, mainly through determining how intelligent and how adaptable your bady is.

for example take me. I'm genetically predisposed to intelligence, and it was nurtured by my parents at an early age when they spent more money on books and puzzles for me than action figures, and I went to an elementary school comprable to the prep school in the movie School of Rock. At the very beginning of my formative adolescent years, I moved to a "ghetto" urban school, and learned to be tough, and to sympothize with those that are poorer than you, and my dad encouraged me to become a leader in my boy scout troop. I've grown to become a strong leader that is compassionate about doing volunteer work. Combine this with my intelligent, politically and strategically oriented mind, and I'm on my way to having politician's personality...
 
I personally disagree, but keep in mind that it maybe because of his obsessions with soap operas that may not be that real at times... or my own highly biased view regarding people born rich without any obstacles in their lifes (yet)

There can be snooby rich kids who take everything for granted. Then again there are rich kids who are still pretty humble about his wealth (note: they both grew up in a rich environment that I guess would be similar. One of them used to be my best friend but... wont' go into it. The other is just someone I know)

Sometimes two people can be presented with the same problem (for example: 2 brothers in the same household facing... let's say a divorce for example). They can react completely differently even though they are in the same situation, because their point of view is different (and different tolerant level and so on).

I don't know why that happens... part of these things tell me to go take psychology as major in university, but of course my biology and english marks are stopping me from doing so... ._.;
 
frostweaver said:
I personally disagree, but keep in mind that it maybe because of his obsessions with soap operas that may not be that real at times... or my own highly biased view regarding people born rich without any obstacles in their lifes (yet)

There can be snooby rich kids who take everything for granted. Then again there are rich kids who are still pretty humble about his wealth (note: they both grew up in a rich environment that I guess would be similar. One of them used to be my best friend but... wont' go into it. The other is just someone I know)

Sometimes two people can be presented with the same problem (for example: 2 brothers in the same household facing... let's say a divorce for example). They can react completely differently even though they are in the same situation, because their point of view is different (and different tolerant level and so on).

I don't know why that happens... part of these things tell me to go take psychology as major in university, but of course my biology and english marks are stopping me from doing so... ._.;
Bleh.. ._. that sucks, I hate it when that happens. About the environmental-caused side of personality development, parenting styles affects it a LOT, that's why it's so important to know how much care to give to your children.
 
frostweaver said:
I personally disagree, but keep in mind that it maybe because of his obsessions with soap operas that may not be that real at times... or my own highly biased view regarding people born rich without any obstacles in their lifes (yet)

There can be snooby rich kids who take everything for granted. Then again there are rich kids who are still pretty humble about his wealth (note: they both grew up in a rich environment that I guess would be similar. One of them used to be my best friend but... wont' go into it. The other is just someone I know)

Sometimes two people can be presented with the same problem (for example: 2 brothers in the same household facing... let's say a divorce for example). They can react completely differently even though they are in the same situation, because their point of view is different (and different tolerant level and so on).

I don't know why that happens... part of these things tell me to go take psychology as major in university, but of course my biology and english marks are stopping me from doing so... ._.;
I took AP Psychology in high school last year, so I have a pretty basic understanding of this stuff.

I don't even know who you are referring to in your first paragraph so i won't comment on it XP.

What you are talking about in your second paragraph is pretty basic to explain. The snobby rich kid probably had parents who celebrated their wealth (i.e. buying expensive cars and other unecessary things just for the luxury of being rich. This sets an example to the kid that since there is always money around, he should not have to worry about finances at all in later life. The humble kid probably had parents who were a bit more conservative with their wealth and gave some of it back to the community. This teaches the kid that you have to watch your money and be careful with it.

What you are talking about in your third paragraph is an example of the minute genetic influences on personality. It could be possible that one brother is about 17 and one is 13 and one is a considerably deeper thinker than the other. The 17 year old will become depressed because he had become so attached to his father and not so much his mother, that when they separated and divorced, he would lash against his mom from the absence of his father. The 13 year old may not fully understand the situation ,especially if he was more attached to his mother than his father, and will probably have to assume fatherly responsibility around the house (seeing as the 17 year old will jump at the oppurtunity to leave the state to go to college).

sometimes I'm much smarter than I let off...
 
22sa said:
Bleh.. ._. that sucks, I hate it when that happens. About the environmental-caused side of personality development, parenting styles affects it a LOT, that's why it's so important to know how much care to give to your children.
Actually one of my friend acts completely different to his brother... even though they're both failing in school and is scolded at by their parents. So like I said, something weird goes on in people's mind that makes each of us somehow different and never identical, even if you're in the same situation/under the same parental influence and so on...

As for the children thing, there's an easy and simple way to help you with that:
-just don't have children

<= major Kairi-and-this-other-girl-in-school-who-has-the-same-idea-influenced in terms of children, and not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing


tmbjr said:
What you are talking about in your second paragraph is pretty basic to explain. The snobby rich kid probably had parents who celebrated their wealth (i.e. buying expensive cars and other unecessary things just for the luxury of being rich. This sets an example to the kid that since there is always money around, he should not have to worry about finances at all in later life. The humble kid probably had parents who were a bit more conservative with their wealth and gave some of it back to the community. This teaches the kid that you have to watch your money and be careful with it.

What you are talking about in your third paragraph is an example of the minute genetic influences on personality. It could be possible that one brother is about 17 and one is 13 and one is a considerably deeper thinker than the other. The 17 year old will become depressed because he had become so attached to his father and not so much his mother, that when they separated and divorced, he would lash against his mom from the absence of his father. The 13 year old may not fully understand the situation ,especially if he was more attached to his mother than his father, and will probably have to assume fatherly responsibility around the house (seeing as the 17 year old will jump at the oppurtunity to leave the state to go to college).

sometimes I'm much smarter than I let off...
Ahem... my former friend now enemy is quite lenient (sp?) about cash... the other person also have parents who just give him some new stuff to use, but he doesn't go off everywhere and "oh yeah it's ONLY a new iPod and it's _______ much better than my old one I got 3 weeks ago." Parents can't be identical, but they aren't that much different...

As for what you said about paragraph 3, I never agreed with that theory, and probably never will because there can be 10 years old who are so smart, and fellow classmates who are complete lack wits at the age of 15+. Example within PC itself: Carol vs (whose name shall not be mentioned because that'll be flaming). Age is a useless number except to measure when you should retire, and when you get cash from the government.
 
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frostweaver said:
Actually one of my friend acts completely different to his brother... even though they're both failing in school and is scolded at by their parents. So like I said, something weird goes on in people's mind that makes each of us somehow different and never identical, even if you're in the same situation/under the same parental influence and so on...

As for the children thing, there's an easy and simple way to help you with that:
-just don't have children

<= major Kairi-and-this-other-girl-in-school-who-has-the-same-idea-influenced in terms of children, and not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing



Ahem... my former friend now enemy is quite lenient (sp?) about cash... the other person also have parents who just give him some new stuff to use, but he doesn't go off everywhere and "oh yeah it's ONLY a new iPod and it's _______ much better than my old one I got 3 weeks ago." Parents can't be identical, but they aren't that much different...

As for what you said about paragraph 3, I never agreed with that theory, and probably never will because there can be 10 years old who are so smart, and fellow classmates who are complete lack wits at the age of 15+. Example within PC itself: Carol vs (whose name shall not be mentioned because that'll be flaming). Age is a useless number except to measure when you should retire, and when you get cash from the government.
Their parents must've treated them differently enough, I have this doubt that parents treat their kids the same because of my own... u_u' There's a bunch of other factors too, of course, their parents can't always be around them.

That's true about the no children part, people will be better off in life without children, as the Bible said. But personally I don't see why I should live if it weren't for a good wife and children. :\ Weird me. u_u
 
And don't forget the unimaginable pain your children can bring into your (and your spouse's) life... you can choose carefully regarding your spouse so that after marriage your life will be (more likely) better than before, but you can't choose what personality your children is born with can you... plus all children will have a stage in time where they cry all day and all night and you won't be getting much sleep (except for little Frosty who's strange enough to have this stage of his life to be very short, as very soon after he was too busy sucking on his bottle/thumb/anything that looks like a bottle)

I don't know... both of my parents have always encouraged me to play more sports all my life, but then I hated sport all my life too despite of all the encouragement... so sometimes even if the parents try to influence you in a certain way, not all the time will parential influence over come personal obstination ;p
 
lol, I'm 100% sure it's nothing that be beared, it can't be worse then the previous years of my life. >=D Heh, that be funny if it turns out to be worse afterall... That's true that I cannot choose my children's personality, nor do I really want to, as long as I can prepare myself to parent. Yeah... exercise, you'll have to find your own reasons, they'll never be able to motivate you. Actually, they can, by giving you money for exercising or something lol. Don't know about your parents but my parents would never do that... which was a stupid decision of theirs, IMO anyway. >=d Hmph. u_u
 
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Wow i fee i;m reading a book on human development. I think the question Dakota can be answered in many different way. Also is he talking about how we feel we are different from other or how people are differnet from others.

I feel i;m differnent becouse i do not like deing around humans in RL realy. I like to keep to my self. i have amyn intrest with a lot of people i know on RL(well except pokemon realy). I just find being around to many people makes me unconfortable. I have not real reason why. I just do.
As for on line well there are so many different people here. I find i don;t post as much as a lot of other people and i have regreted posting a lot of what i have posted so fair. Though i like have friends on here beoucse in truth i now i will never meet them. Also i'm older than a lot of the normal posters here. Also i tend to like darker stuff(but i just normal keep that to my self).

Well as for the other part well every one is different realy. Regardless of any thing you might be or like you will never find someone that exactly like you. People feel left out maybe becouse of the things they like or look very differeent than the people they are liveing around.
 
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