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Whatever happened to breeding!?

SakuraKenji

Breeder
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    Remember when silver and gold came out and there was this new thing that was included? I thought it would have been awesome to have all these little pokemon mutants running around and hatching out of eggs, but alas that never happened. Ever. So I'm thinking the other day, what if I could make that happen? How would I do it? And how many pokemon could there be (Tons)?

    Well I've refined the current breeding groups into species (mostly) and tried to narrow stuff down (rattata and ekans can breed!? gross...) to groups that make a little more sense (rodents, canines, felines and so forth). I have a list done currently and If anyone likes the idea of this then I can post it and progress from there.

    My basic aim is to make a game that focuses a little more on breeding instead of "Get every gym badge!" (there will be that too). I figured that it will be set in a different region and have different gyms so as not to ruin any current story lines in pokemon games (and so I wont need to work around the either).

    So, let me know If you'd like to help! (I'll need tons of hands on this project)

    P.S. I'm new at this forum stuff so if I ask lame questions that's why.
     
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    Do you mean something like, if you breed Electabuzz and Magmar, you get a fusion of Elekid and Magby? That would be an interesting game... But it would take forever to make all the fusions, since you'd have literally thousands. Unless you put heavy restrictions on it, of course.

    EDIT: Here's an example of the numbers involved - if you had, let's say, 20 evo lines of bird-like Pokémon, that would be 210 possible combinations. And you'd have to give an evo line to each of them.
     
    Ya I've been doing calculations and it is alot (ALOT!). I think I would release like two or three from each group for starters and the realease expansions (or updates) that wil add like five or six pokemon which will actually add any combination of those pokemon to the roster also.

    Besides... Electabuzz and Magmar are in different breeding groups ;P

    If you guys got questions I got answers, and lists, and alot of free time... >.>
     
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    This sounds interesting. Of course, I seem to remember so many threads here where people have tried doing that before, I'm not sure if anybody ever really did though. This is doable, of course... it might be best if you hire like a hundred spriters though. XD

    I'll be waiting to see how this turns out. Good luck.

    BTW, have you decided what you're gonna try making this with yet?
     
    To tell you the truth I dont have programing experience unless making brick break on game maker counts. :D This Idea will develop and take time but once I get enough people excited about it I imagine one of those people wont mind helping program... This will be everyones game and it'll be for everyone. I know it sounds lame, but if I make it how I like it then I would get comments like "You should have done this" or "This game sucks why did you put that there?". Granted I'll get that anyway, but If I get as much help as I can from everyone then I can make the credits huge! lol. Actually I just want people feel that they have a say in what happens not "aw man, I cant wait till it comes out!" or "I wanna beta test!". The more you help out the more you get I guess...

    Sooooo.....
    I have a list of the species (or as close as I can match them) that I want people to look at and give me their opinion, and once thats done with if I get enough people to help by then I guess we need background and storyline and settings. Not to mention what the pokemon should look like.

    Btw.... According to my calculations the count (with no evolutions) is... 1824 pokemon (including the original 482). I have a theory about how evolutions would work but I'll get to that later.

    Thanks for posting guys!
     
    Yes they can. I figured that someone out there wants a zapdos/articuno mix (articudos? lol) and I aim to please... (they're both birds aren't they?) I think the developers didn't allow the breeding of legendary pokemon is to keep them from overusing the same pokemon all the time and encourage players to explore the strengths of others. Not so in my idea of this game... The whole Idea is discovering new breeds. Legendary pokemon will just be harder to breed...

    besides Im sure that legendary poekemon's uhm... parts work properly, why shouldnt they breed?
     
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    Archaedios said:
    To tell you the truth I dont have programing experience unless making brick break on game maker counts. :D This Idea will develop and take time but once I get enough people excited about it I imagine one of those people wont mind helping program... This will be everyones game and it'll be for everyone. I know it sounds lame, but if I make it how I like it then I would get comments like "You should have done this" or "This game sucks why did you put that there?". Granted I'll get that anyway, but If I get as much help as I can from everyone then I can make the credits huge! lol. Actually I just want people feel that they have a say in what happens not "aw man, I cant wait till it comes out!" or "I wanna beta test!". The more you help out the more you get I guess...

    Sooooo.....
    I have a list of the species (or as close as I can match them) that I want people to look at and give me their opinion, and once thats done with if I get enough people to help by then I guess we need background and storyline and settings. Not to mention what the pokemon should look like.

    Btw.... According to my calculations the count (with no evolutions) is... 1824 pokemon (including the original 482). I have a theory about how evolutions would work but I'll get to that later.

    Thanks for posting guys!
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    its 493 not 492
    anyway it could get confusing if the fusions had to breed with fusions
    and those fusion breed with other fusions and so on
     
    I figured that there genes would be to unstable to breed with anything else besides others of its kind or its parents species. i.e. if raticate and raichu breed, thier offspring (rattatichu? lol) could only breed with raticates, raichus, and uh... raiticates (...sure).

    Im not big on names most of the combinations I came up with dont have names (Raichu/Raticate)

    another mechanic I figured would be that only fully evolved pokemon (those have reached full maturity) would be able to breed.
     
    I have attached my list (its a .txt), bear in mind that I came up with this on my own and it is far from finished but with help we could collectivly do it.

    You'll note that I only listed the full evolution, that was explained in the last post.

    First off. Bird 1 are flight based birds and Bird 2 are land based. That doesn't mean they can't fly it's just that they are found more commonly on the ground...

    Bug 1 and Bug 2 work the same way.

    Reptile 1 are land base, Reptile 2 are winged and Reptile 3 are serpentine.

    The pokemon with two types are currently under debate as to what they belong to. As well as most rodents, human, manmade and plant.

    Feel free to criticize, comment, help out, or anything else!
     
    This sounds like a brilliant idea! I'd love to start helping out with the spriting side of it as I love doing Fusions! PM me what you want doing, and I'll get it done!
     
    well first up we would need a few concept drawings of a certain group of pokemon. I'm assuming you had a look at the list. My favorite group is probably the felines (hey, its got espeon). I would prefer to stick with a single art style for spriting and if you can change concept art to sprite work that'd be awesome!

    although I'm new at game design (not game making, there is a difference) I've always wanted to do a game like this...

    though the sprite style would depend on a few different factors. Combat style, menus, pokedex, and overland, there are others Im sure. and even if we get one sprite done I would like it to do more than just shake and wiggle when it uses scratch or every other known pokemon move...

    I'll add you to my contacts Riceeman so I wont forget. :p
     
    hey

    I have some overworld sprites. And I have some trainer sprites and some pokemon sprites if that will help.
    I have more, I will upload them On another reply.
     
    ............................

    HERE IS MORE!!!

    I mixed some of the colors on the first part.

    I also put two trainer cards on here also. And the website that you can make your own on is www. crap, i forgot the website. When I figure out what the website is, I will tell you. If you already know, Please tell me. I forgot what its on.........:(:(
     
    Thanks for the files! Although I'm sorry to say that I already have like, 98% of those sprites and then some (lol) the other two percent is that Gardevoir/dog thing (never seen that before).

    I want to use the sprites as a reference because I want this game to be as original as it can be (excluding the fact that it's well... pokemon) ;) So that means I need a very dedicated and no doubt caffine induced spriter. Like I said earlier (I think), I would like all the sprites to be the same (or somewhat close) art style, but any and all concept drawings will be welcomed as long as they match the same spieces (Raichu/Azumarill for example, not Jigglypuff/Articuno).

    As always tell me your ideas I'll give them all thought!

    *saves the dog thing to desktop* :p
     
    just a quick thought... I would like to give this a name so I can have a way cool banner...

    Pokemon Outbreak

    I like it and it can always be changed later but until that happens that will be its official name.

    *now to work on a banner Idea*
     
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