WHO MISSES MISTY!? D:

[weedle_mchairybug]

Thumbs Up to that :)



I do not mind your argument, you are supporting what you are saying and I truly appreciate your way. But The thing I want to knock off is the criticism on Dawn and May. You like Misty, I am ok with that, but to say the others are horrible (which you didn't) is what I extremely detest.

Anyway, My reply after looking into this debate.....
I don't want to go all mad over misty because of her fans, but all I am saying is she is NOT better than any of the other girls nor are the other girls better than her. Everyone of them have their own personality, their personality is what makes each one of them beloved to me.

Misty's fear from bugs made her deep. She didn't have much things to do as much as May and Dawn, my memory about Kanto and Johto isn't so vivid but all I remember she did was carry Togepi, start flaming, and had a couple of battles. Is that too much? No. Does that make her bad? No! She did have some sort of uniqueness and as I said, she isn't that shallow.

May's nagging about hunger is what made her quite "funny" , the idea of someone desperate for food....it just makes me smile, so in other words, there is nothing wrong for her to do that, its better than a shallow character. Unlike Misty, May had more significance in the branch of contests. Its quite good to focus on different characters in that way, and Unlike Misty too, May developed MORE.......she first was against Pokemon Battles and such, you can later on see how she changed. She had her own rivals, conflicts, and development, so I dare you say she was the worst character or something...

Dawn almost follows May, A Coordinator as well, with a dressing of ambition. She as well had a significant role in Pokemon Contests, she was the one who had Ash learned Counter-Strategies and some cool moves. I also adored the way she was on Ash's side all the way, the way she discarded Zoey and whoever that guy was just to cheer on Ash. She also had her funny Piplup, he wasn't annoying at all, he was hilarious, your just over-emotional and just trying to find a way to hate the series if you say he is annoying. I think Dawn, beside Misty, was the one how showed affection to Ash xD . Dawn was also skilled in Pokemon Contest later on, at first, her loss is what made her character interesting. It also added a taste of realism, I didn't like how the main characters always bypass the odds no matter what, Dawn broke that rule by 2 consecutive losses.

So as you can see, there is nothing wrong with all the girls, they had really good significance and roles whether its humor or.......Ugh...you know what I mean!

And BTW, Iris by far, is an EPIC character, I just love her! She isn't ugly by any mean, that's just racist D: She is nothing like annoying!!! She is amazing, her line "Your Such a Kid" is just so cool xD love it. Your just naggy and nostalgic of you say such thing as annoying <_< Or....you don't have a sense of slight humor.

By far, Pokemon did well in their characters....Non of them were unappealing to me by any means.....if you think they are, give a VALID argument! Saying shes "Annoying" isn't enough, coz I cannot tell whether that's true since not everyone agrees on that. Either give me a Solid Proof where the character was bad or just don't talk!

Well, to comment on your statement on Misty not doing much in Kanto or Johto, I might as well comment that I definitely recall a lot of things she did during her time. She was the one who got them out of the St. Anne, she also was the one who stopped the Tentacruel attack, she was also pretty much pivotal to Mikey's development, there's that Princess vs. Princess episode, she was the one who busted her friends out of Jail and busted Butch and Cassidy, she was the one who pretty much was the reason Ash even got a battle with Blaine due to her solving most of his riddles (something even Brock failed to do), and she saved Ash's life several times. Heck, had it not been for her, I doubt Ash would have even survived his first day (remember, he would have drowned had Misty not fished him outta there). I can also assure you that she did a lot in Johto, as well.

And since you asked about giving a valid argument about why May and Dawn are unappealing, I might as well give some reasons why:

First off, the characters seemed no different from the way those Fiorello Fangirls acted, or heck, how the Love Hina characters acted. Misty at least had differences that were noted. Besides which, they were mostly inappropriate to the age bracket, similar to the latter characters. I remember at one point, Brave the Wave, that May was implied to have stripped in front of company.

Secondly, at least in the case of May, she actually did exhibit instances of cowardace: In Movie 9, May simply let Manaphy get away at the hands of Phantom. I know some may argue the same for that oddish in Bulbasaur's debut episode, but this is where the differences lie between the two events: Misty had absolutely no way of trying to get to them, as Oddish was being sucked into a vaccum, and she was unable to grab it before it lifted off the ground, and Starmie and Staryu most likely would end up captured if they were used to rescue it so there was a severe amount of risk at trying to use them. May, on the other hand, had two pokemon she could have easily used to rescue Manaphy from Phantom: Squirtle, and Beautifly. The former was pretty much stated to swim at the speed of a jetski if not faster, which made it more than capable of saving Manaphy, and the latter was a flying type.

Might as well note that, no, Misty being replaced had nothing to do with my views against May or Dawn. Had Misty remained in the main cast and May and Dawn still acted the way they did, I still would have had negative viewpoints on May and Dawn. Might as well mention that when I first heard that Misty was removed from the main cast and saw May in a screenshot of a magazine, I didn't harbor any negative emotions against her for replacing her. It wasn't until I saw what the character was actually like that I became angered at her and tried to bring Misty back.

I mean, my distaste for them is no different than Carol Weatheford's distaste of Jynx.

 

[Charicific]

Well, to comment on your statement on Misty not doing much in Kanto or Johto, I might as well comment that I definitely recall a lot of things she did during her time. She was the one who got them out of the St. Anne, she also was the one who stopped the Tentacruel attack, she was also pretty much pivotal to Mikey's development, there's that Princess vs. Princess episode, she was the one who busted her friends out of Jail and busted Butch and Cassidy, she was the one who pretty much was the reason Ash even got a battle with Blaine due to her solving most of his riddles (something even Brock failed to do), and she saved Ash's life several times. Heck, had it not been for her, I doubt Ash would have even survived his first day (remember, he would have drowned had Misty not fished him outta there). I can also assure you that she did a lot in Johto, as well.

Alright Thanks a lot for that, I needed somebody to correct me there. I don't want to debate in this, but I think those are minute, still I can't say Dawn or May were dramatically more.

And since you asked about giving a valid argument about why May and Dawn are unappealing, I might as well give some reasons why:

First off, the characters seemed no different from the way those Fiorello Fangirls acted, or heck, how the Love Hina characters acted. Misty at least had differences that were noted. Besides which, they were mostly inappropriate to the age bracket, similar to the latter characters. I remember at one point, Brave the Wave, that May was implied to have stripped in front of company.

First, to the bold text..... lol!
Second, yeah that's the kind of answer I need, though note that when I went flaming I was speaking in general k? Not specifically scolding you. Anyway, Ok I see your point of view here....but for me, I don't see it so downgrading for a character, know what I am saying :\ . I believe the truth behind all of this is the fact that different things appeal to us. And BTW, can you please tell me this difference Misty had that the other girls didn't? Hopefully, your not the kind of person who would start flaming at me and force me into his point of view...so I'd respect it from you if you slightly elaborated on that point.

Secondly, at least in the case of May, she actually did exhibit instances of cowardace: In Movie 9, May simply let Manaphy get away at the hands of Phantom. I know some may argue the same for that oddish in Bulbasaur's debut episode, but this is where the differences lie between the two events: Misty had absolutely no way of trying to get to them, as Oddish was being sucked into a vaccum, and she was unable to grab it before it lifted off the ground, and Starmie and Staryu most likely would end up captured if they were used to rescue it so there was a severe amount of risk at trying to use them. May, on the other hand, had two pokemon she could have easily used to rescue Manaphy from Phantom: Squirtle, and Beautifly. The former was pretty much stated to swim at the speed of a jetski if not faster, which made it more than capable of saving Manaphy, and the latter was a flying type.

I see....you can tell that I forgot the whole Manaphy Incident :P So....at this point, you hate her for her traits? Ok no problem for that but 2 things: 1)What would happen If May rescued him as you suggest? Wouldn't that break the whole plot :P . 2) Rather than that Incident, isn't there an incident where May was actually brave and caring :\ what I mean is, if this is the only incident where May showed cowardice then its not BROAD, meaning it isn't part of her, its only that moment......AND AGAIN please correct me because I have a horrible memory...can't recall any moments of good and bad sorry ..

Might as well note that, no, Misty being replaced had nothing to do with my views against May or Dawn. Had Misty remained in the main cast and May and Dawn still acted the way they did, I still would have had negative viewpoints on May and Dawn. Might as well mention that when I first heard that Misty was removed from the main cast and saw May in a screenshot of a magazine, I didn't harbor any negative emotions against her for replacing her. It wasn't until I saw what the character was actually like that I became angered at her and tried to bring Misty back.

I mean, my distaste for them is no different than Carol Weatheford's distaste of Jynx.

Yeah.....thanks for the wonderful reply, as long as it isn't nostalgia that forces you to detest other characters then its fine with me, on the contrary, I truly support it....I feel the same way toward Dawn.

Just one more question....Do you really "HATE" May and Dawn or is it that you find Misty Better?

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Alright Thanks a lot for that, I needed somebody to correct me there. I don't want to debate in this, but I think those are minute, still I can't say Dawn or May were dramatically more.

Well, minute or not, she still did something.

First, to the bold text..... lol!
Second, yeah that's the kind of answer I need, though note that when I went flaming I was speaking in general k? Not specifically scolding you. Anyway, Ok I see your point of view here....but for me, I don't see it so downgrading for a character, know what I am saying :\ . I believe the truth behind all of this is the fact that different things appeal to us. And BTW, can you please tell me this difference Misty had that the other girls didn't? Hopefully, your not the kind of person who would start flaming at me and force me into his point of view...so I'd respect it from you if you slightly elaborated on that point.

Well, its a long story, but all right.

In Princess vs. Princess, there was a certain scene where they were announcing the Princess festival contest. When the PA announced what the prizes were, every girl started squealing like animals and stampeding and trampling on Ash, Brock, James, Pikachu and Meowth. Every girl, that is, except Misty and Jessie. It happened again right upon unveiling the doll set. And just like the previous time, Misty and Jessie were the only ones who didn't act that way. My mom, when watching the episode, didn't like how girls were portrayed in that episode for being loud, whiney, and obnoxious. When I asked if Misty was anything like that (even showing the part where Misty asking if she could borrow Ash and Brock's pokemon for the contest), she said she was nothing like those girls, and she specified the scene with those girls squealing like animals was what she was referring to.

A few years later, while vacationing at Myrtle Beach, I also went to Walden Books and asked Mom to see this manga (Love Hina). She looked at it, and she... well, let's just say she reacted in a similar manner to how she reacted to the girls in Princess vs. Princess and gave a similar description of their personalities, as well as their physique.

That encounter with May I alluded to was nearing the end of my Freshman year. I went to the hospital due to chest pains. They had AG on. I was afraid of watching Pokemon during that time because people might refer to it as a baby show (long story short, that's what Arthur constantly did to D.W. in regards to Mary Moo Cow). I briefly heard an almost poodlish voice that seemed to come from May. It was because of that incident that I grew to not like May, to say the very least. Well, that as well as the fact that they pretty much made her well-endowed for a 10 year old, as that was simply inappropriate. I did tolerate Dawn in DP, but that fell short by the time of the incident where she complained about her hair, making her of the female anime stereotype. You can find out more from some videos I made for Youtube on the subject, if you wish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0OowSxgEcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktzpEL8gWK8&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJSiydEu8

It was intended to be much longer, but issues with the blurring forced me to put it on indefinite hold.

I see....you can tell that I forgot the whole Manaphy Incident :P So....at this point, you hate her for her traits? Ok no problem for that but 2 things: 1)What would happen If May rescued him as you suggest? Wouldn't that break the whole plot :P . 2) Rather than that Incident, isn't there an incident where May was actually brave and caring :\ what I mean is, if this is the only incident where May showed cowardice then its not BROAD, meaning it isn't part of her, its only that moment......AND AGAIN please correct me because I have a horrible memory...can't recall any moments of good and bad sorry ..

For the first point, I don't see why it would, really. If Ash was absent, all it needs is for Phantom to rise up in his sub and activate that soundwave, then have Manaphy counter with heart swap. It wouldn't break too much from the plot.

For the second point, if I had watched much AG, I'd answer it. Unfortunately, I can't really give much of an answer.

Yeah.....thanks for the wonderful reply, as long as it isn't nostalgia that forces you to detest other characters then its fine with me, on the contrary, I truly support it....I feel the same way toward Dawn.

Just one more question....Do you really "HATE" May and Dawn or is it that you find Misty Better?

My memories, good or bad, are more comparable to PTSD, meaning nothing changes on recollection as it did when the event of my memories happened back then. I'm more of the deconstruction of tragedy+time=comedy adage. In other words, its extremely unlikely that I'd suffer from nostalgia.

As for the question you asked, to me, there is no difference between the two scenarios. A lot of activists tried to change things because they hated the things that are happening and want to change it for the better. Carol B. Weatherford, for instance hated Jynx because of her being a racial stereotype, which also resulted in her petitioning to change Jynx so she isn't nearly as stereotypical.

 

[tough]

Why must you always write in your post "you are entitled to your opinions" It's quite annoying. Anyways:

Misty has acted like a baby several times too, such as her fear of bug Pokemon, she would complain about certain scenarios (if I recall she has more than May and Dawn has because she was on the show longer) such as walking too much, being tired and last but not least following Ash due to him destructing her bike. If you were to lose s competition, would you not be mad about it or maybe complain about it? I highly doubt you will be thrilled of the idea of losing.


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Misty never act like a baby several times unlike May and Dawn these two were more of a cry babies. Misty was a mature character but she didn't act like a baby which make her more better then May and Dawn. Misty fear of bug pokemon were really funny and it don't count as her acting like a baby since it was normal for her to act that way it bring out the light hearted side to Misty.

May and Dawn would cry a whole lot and they act like babies which is something Misty never did act like which makes her the best female character ever,i'm glad May and Dawn left the show forever they were really annoying and unlikeable characters..

You are really being quite annoying right now,stop worrying about what i type in my post and stay on topic.

Thumbs Up to that :)



I do not mind your argument, you are supporting what you are saying and I truly appreciate your way. But The thing I want to knock off is the criticism on Dawn and May. You like Misty, I am ok with that, but to say the others are horrible (which you didn't) is what I extremely detest.

Anyway, My reply after looking into this debate.....
I don't want to go all mad over misty because of her fans, but all I am saying is she is NOT better than any of the other girls nor are the other girls better than her. Everyone of them have their own personality, their personality is what makes each one of them beloved to me.

Misty's fear from bugs made her deep. She didn't have much things to do as much as May and Dawn, my memory about Kanto and Johto isn't so vivid but all I remember she did was carry Togepi, start flaming, and had a couple of battles. Is that too much? No. Does that make her bad? No! She did have some sort of uniqueness and as I said, she isn't that shallow.

May's nagging about hunger is what made her quite "funny" , the idea of someone desperate for food....it just makes me smile, so in other words, there is nothing wrong for her to do that, its better than a shallow character. Unlike Misty, May had more significance in the branch of contests. Its quite good to focus on different characters in that way, and Unlike Misty too, May developed MORE.......she first was against Pokemon Battles and such, you can later on see how she changed. She had her own rivals, conflicts, and development, so I dare you say she was the worst character or something...

Dawn almost follows May, A Coordinator as well, with a dressing of ambition. She as well had a significant role in Pokemon Contests, she was the one who had Ash learned Counter-Strategies and some cool moves. I also adored the way she was on Ash's side all the way, the way she discarded Zoey and whoever that guy was just to cheer on Ash. She also had her funny Piplup, he wasn't annoying at all, he was hilarious, your just over-emotional and just trying to find a way to hate the series if you say he is annoying. I think Dawn, beside Misty, was the one how showed affection to Ash xD . Dawn was also skilled in Pokemon Contest later on, at first, her loss is what made her character interesting. It also added a taste of realism, I didn't like how the main characters always bypass the odds no matter what, Dawn broke that rule by 2 consecutive losses.

So as you can see, there is nothing wrong with all the girls, they had really good significance and roles whether its humor or.......Ugh...you know what I mean!

And BTW, Iris by far, is an EPIC character, I just love her! She isn't ugly by any mean, that's just racist D: She is nothing like annoying!!! She is amazing, her line "Your Such a Kid" is just so cool xD love it. Your just naggy and nostalgic of you say such thing as annoying <_< Or....you don't have a sense of slight humor.

By far, Pokemon did well in their characters....Non of them were unappealing to me by any means.....if you think they are, give a VALID argument! Saying shes "Annoying" isn't enough, coz I cannot tell whether that's true since not everyone agrees on that. Either give me a Solid Proof where the character was bad or just don't talk!

Thumbs down to that

Misty was the greatest female character ever and she wasn't annoying either,she will return on this show again which i hope she does.

 

[Charicific]

Thumbs down to that

Misty was the greatest female character ever and she wasn't annoying either,she will return on this show again which i hope she does.

Yeah Yeah...pfft...you can say whatever you want but as long you don't support, your post will be neglected... <_< Most importantly, your statements such as this one

Misty was the greatest female character ever and she wasn't annoying either

is what makes your posts intimidating. Why? Simply because such statements are factual, trust me when I tell you, one word......no one LETTER, would have changed everyone's feeling toward your statement........yes the letter "I" :|

And @ weedle_mchairybug Thanks, your personal reason to dislike a character is good enough. At least, you do KNOW your are speaking in your point of view. So anyway, your comment is much appreciated, the reasons you like Misty MORE reached me and I can see how you feel. I am glad you don't FORCE people into your opinion unlike some people <_<
I think the reason you gave are VALID, I know it doesn't appeal to you so I must not force you into debating and liking May or something. Thanks again and excuse me if I am talkative @_@

 

[tough]

Yeah Yeah...pfft...you can say whatever you want but as long you don't support, your post will be neglected... <_< Most importantly, your statements such as this one is what makes your posts intimidating. Why? Simply because such statements are factual, trust me when I tell you, one word......no one LETTER, would have changed everyone's feeling toward your statement........yes the letter "I" :|

And @ weedle_mchairybug Thanks, your personal reason to dislike a character is good enough. At least, you do KNOW your are speaking in your point of view. So anyway, your comment is much appreciated, the reasons you like Misty MORE reached me and I can see how you feel. I am glad you don't FORCE people into your opinion unlike some people <_<
I think the reason you gave are VALID, I know it doesn't appeal to you so I must not force you into debating and liking May or something. Thanks again and excuse me if I am talkative @_@

No my post won't be neglected unlike your's..My statements are not intimidating to anyone at all and learn not to be rude while you post on this site. Also i don't force my opinions on people unlike you, your statements are not always factual and you are not going have anyone on your side either,people have no hard feelings toward my statement at all.

I made my point valid unlike you, i don't force people into liking a character like May are Dawn or even force my veiws on them,try to get your facts right next time before you post again and try to make more sense next time.

 

[Charicific]

No my post won't be neglected unlike your's..My statements are not intimidating to anyone at all and learn not to be rude while you post on this site. Also i don't force my opinions on people unlike you, your statements are not always factual and you are not going have anyone on your side either,people have no hard feelings toward my statement at all.

I made my point valid unlike you, i don't force people into liking a character like May are Dawn or even force my veiws on them,try to get your facts right next time before you post again and try to make more sense next time.

I must not force you into debating and liking May or something.

I do not mind your argument, you are supporting what you are saying and I truly appreciate your way.

I don't want to go all mad over misty because of her fans, but all I am saying is she is NOT better than any of the other girls nor are the other girls better than her.

Just please, tell me where did I go wrong? I never stated a hate for a character, I tried to defend all of them equally (I made my point) , I appreciated weedle_mchairybug valid and reasonable reply, I didn't and will NEVER force him into loving a character, I just asked for proof why someone hated them. And the whole siding thing....I'd rather let the people decide not us :\

And if you think my tone is rude, then just try to bare with me a little, really sorry...

 

[tough]

Just please, tell me where did I go wrong? I never stated a hate for a character, I tried to defend all of them equally (I made my point) , I appreciated weedle_mchairybug valid and reasonable reply, I didn't and will NEVER force him into loving a character, I just asked for proof why someone hated them. And the whole siding thing....I'd rather let the people decide not us :\

And if you think my tone is rude, then just try to bare with me a little, really sorry...

I didn't mean anyharm to you in anyway,if i was being rude i didn't mean it.

People do have a right to decide on what they like or don't not,it is true that it is not up to us to decide on peoples opinions. I don't have hate for any of the characters.

 

[Exzessiva]

I am not that great fan of Misty but I enjoyed watching her in the animes. Misty and her psyduck are an awesome pair..LOL :p Wonder if he is still having Psyduck troubles.
I also enjoyed that Togetic arc.
Also that ws the first time I saw a water pokemon like Gyarados doing Flame thrower.

 

[Charicific]

I didn't mean anyharm to you in anyway,if i was being rude i didn't mean it.

People do have a right to decide on what they like or don't not,it is true that it is not up to us to decide on peoples opinions. I don't have hate for any of the characters.

Thnx, I hope my tongue didn't slip as well, srry about that. But I still want to stick with my Points of defending every single character there is...hope you don't mind :)

 

[tough]

Thnx, I hope my tongue didn't slip as well, srry about that. But I still want to stick with my Points of defending every single character there is...hope you don't mind :)

No? i don't mind at all.You have every right to defending every single character you like or not. Besides people do have a right to their own opinions..

I always loved Misty and i will never forget her no matter what.

 

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

Misty never act like a baby several times unlike May and Dawn these two were more of a cry babies. Misty was a mature character but she didn't act like a baby which make her more better then May and Dawn. Misty fear of bug pokemon were really funny and it don't count as her acting like a baby since it was normal for her to act that way it bring out the light hearted side to Misty.

May and Dawn would cry a whole lot and they act like babies which is something Misty never did act like which makes her the best female character ever,i'm glad May and Dawn left the show forever they were really annoying and unlikeable characters..

You are really being quite annoying right now,stop worrying about what i type in my post and stay on topic

It's cute how you say the same thing I say in the same post (such as when I write annoying, you do the same thing). You also do it to other people's post because you can't come up with your own material anyways:

How do you know that May and Dawn left the show forever I would love to see proof
For you to say that May and Dawn are unlikeable characters, it sounds like you are trying to pass that statement off as a fact; that everyone or majority of the people found those characters so unlikeable; that is not true because I happend to love both of those characters,so your statement is invaild.

How is someone acting like a baby because of their fear of bugs ever normal? It doesn't matter why they are doing it; they are still acting like a baby

:t354:TG

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

It's cute how you say the same thing I say in the same post (such as when I write annoying, you do the same thing). You also do it to other people's post because you can't come up with your own material anyways:

How do you know that May and Dawn left the show forever I would love to see proof
For you to say that May and Dawn are unlikeable characters, it sounds like you are trying to pass that statement off as a fact; that everyone or majority of the people found those characters so unlikeable; that is not true because I happend to love both of those characters,so your statement is invaild.

How is someone acting like a baby because of their fear of bugs ever normal? It doesn't matter why they are doing it; they are still acting like a baby

:t354:TG

Well, for starters, Unova doesn't have any pokemon contests, not to mention that the anime pretty much hinted that they aren't going to focus on them anyways, especially when Jessie basically threw away her Jessalina disguise after the Sinnoh convention. That, alongside Dawn going to Hoenn to participate in contests makes her return very unlikely, and May for that matter. These are the facts. If they planned to have them return, I'm pretty sure they actually would have included contests even if they weren't in the games (They did with the Battle Frontier in Kanto).

And for the record, its probably a lot closer to a majority liking Misty than it is to a majority liking May or Dawn. The mere fact that Misty has a wikipedia article whereas May and Dawn are just listed in the list of Pokemon Anime characters is pretty much a testament to that fact. Not to mention that there were outside sources indicating her important role in the anime (which also served as the reason why Misty even has her own article on Wikipedia). Besides, it doesn't seem to be a coincidence that the ratings of the show actually increased whenever Misty returned even temporarily when the rest of the series had low ratings shortly after her departure, even in Japan.

 

[Exzessiva]

Misty is older than Ash and almost the same age as Brock so with both of them together they can actually look after Ash. Definitely she is more matured than the other travelling partners such as May and Dawn. I would have liked too seen Misty as a more stronger gym leader. She has the potential to do so.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Misty is older than Ash and almost the same age as Brock so with both of them together they can actually look after Ash. Definitely she is more matured than the other travelling partners such as May and Dawn. I would have liked too seen Misty as a more stronger gym leader. She has the potential to do so.

Actually, Misty's closer to Ash's age than to Brock's age (She mentioned that Caterpie sleeping next to her was the worst thing thats happened to her in the ten years of her life.).

 

[TheFuturePokemon]

Misty is older than Ash and almost the same age as Brock so with both of them together they can actually look after Ash. Definitely she is more matured than the other travelling partners such as May and Dawn. I would have liked too seen Misty as a more stronger gym leader. She has the potential to do so.

Yeah Misty's 10(stated in her debut).

 

[tough]

It's cute how you say the same thing I say in the same post (such as when I write annoying, you do the same thing). You also do it to other people's post because you can't come up with your own material anyways:

How do you know that May and Dawn left the show forever I would love to see proof
For you to say that May and Dawn are unlikeable characters, it sounds like you are trying to pass that statement off as a fact; that everyone or majority of the people found those characters so unlikeable; that is not true because I happend to love both of those characters,so your statement is invaild.

How is someone acting like a baby because of their fear of bugs ever normal? It doesn't matter why they are doing it; they are still acting like a baby

:t354:TG

I'm saying the samething over again you better look at your own self,i did come up with my own material unlike you,you have to steal other peoples material instead of doing you own, do you have proof that May and Dawn are not unlikeable characters i think not,you are also wrong about Misty because she have never acted like a baby,Misty have the fear of bugs which is normal and that don't mean that she is acting like a baby,get you facts right before you make a statement of something.

My statement isn't invalid if anything my statement is valid ,but your statement is the one that is invalid and what i said about May and Dawn being unlikeable is true,not everything you say is true at all deal with it.

May and Dawn are not coming back face the truth they are gone forever,Pokemon contest are not in the show anymore, May and Dawn were only here to promote them and since contest are not in the show anymore May and Dawn are unlikely to ever come back,deal with them being gone from the show forever and stop acting like annoying little baby.

Misty will always be the best in number 1 place,she is love by all fans and she was a badass Pokemon character.

 

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

Ummm, okay:

I'm saying the samething over again you better look at your own self,i did come up with my own material unlike you,you have to steal other peoples material instead of doing you own

I don't think anyone has said what I posted on this thread so how exactly am I copying people exactly?Secondly, you just proved my post, you yet again copied what I wrote but tried to switch it up so it can seem like I am the one that is actually copying other people.(you might want to look at all of your post again)

do you have proof that May and Dawn are not unlikeable characters i think not

Now that comment sounds more like an opinion rather than fact. If you were to say "did I have proof that May and Dawn are considered "unlikeable" characters by the majority"? Then that is something to debate about, But when you put the statement like that, you are pretty much saying:
"They are not likeable characters at all"
Which is total bull, because I happen to love them both

It's funny how you answer my question with a question, I think you honestly did that because you CANNOT find any proof for the claim that you are making

you are also wrong about Misty because she have never acted like a baby,Misty have the fear of bugs which is normal and that don't mean that she is acting like a baby,get you facts right before you make a statement of something.

How is having a fear of bugs normal? (my opinion that is). When she saw a bug she would freak out, hide and cry (and don't tell me she never has done that). It's not a fact, never stated it was---it was more like an observation. Oh yeah, it is very hypocritical thing for you to say to me that I need to get my facts straight before I say such a comment

May and Dawn are not coming back face the truth they are gone forever,Pokemon contest are not in the show anymore, May and Dawn were only here to promote them and since contest are not in the show anymore May and Dawn are unlikely to ever come back,deal with them being gone from the show forever and stop acting like annoying little baby.

I and other people keep on telling you this in this thread (or Forum for that matter), you do not know if they are not coming back, it doesn't even have to be a series regular, it could be as a cameo (that does qualify as coming back). As much as I can't stand Misty, I wish I can say that she is never coming back, she is gone for good or forever, but I know I can't because even her can make a apperance later on the show. Do I have proof if any character is coming back? No I do not, never stated I did and probably never will. Unlike you, I ask you a question like that and your answer results in "with another question" to counter me. I believe you do this because you cant answer my question so the only way to make yourself look good is to answer my question with another question. Oh yeah, nice insult btw, calling someone that does not make you look good, it makes it seem that you are getting tired of debating and the only way you feel that you are going to win this is by resorting to "child like" insults

Misty will always be the best in number 1 place,she is love by all fans and she was a badass Pokemon character.

Where is the proof that she is loved by all fans? Because I love Pokemon but I can't stand her, there are other people on this Forum that can't stand her either, 3 of my friends can't stand her and my brothers can't stand her. I want the link now, RIGHT NOW! because last time I checked, I am a human


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Now that comment sounds more like an opinion rather than fact. If you were to say "did I have proof that May and Dawn are considered "unlikeable" characters by the majority"? Then that is something to debate about, But when you put the statement like that, you are pretty much saying:
"They are not likeable characters at all"
Which is total bull, because I happen to love them both

It's funny how you answer my question with a question, I think you honestly did that because you CANNOT find any proof for the claim that you are making

Even if he can't. I can, and I am in fact giving proof at a later post.

How is having a fear of bugs normal? (my opinion that is). When she saw a bug she would freak out, hide and cry (and don't tell me she never has done that). It's not a fact, never stated it was---it was more like an observation. Oh yeah, it is very hypocritical thing for you to say to me that I need to get my facts straight before I say such a comment

It's at the very least normal (or rather, prevalent enough) to actually have a name. Besides, its probably not normal to not have any fears.

I and other people keep on telling you this in this thread (or Forum for that matter), you do not know if they are not coming back, it doesn't even have to be a series regular, it could be as a cameo (that does qualify as coming back). As much as I can't stand Misty, I wish I can say that she is never coming back, she is gone for good or forever, but I know I can't because even her can make a apperance later on the show. Do I have proof if any character is coming back? No I do not, never stated I did and probably never will. Unlike you, I ask you a question like that and your answer results in "with another question" to counter me. I believe you do this because you cant answer my question so the only way to make yourself look good is to answer my question with another question. Oh yeah, nice insult btw, calling someone that does not make you look good, it makes it seem that you are getting tired of debating and the only way you feel that you are going to win this is by resorting to "child like" insults

Fine, I guess I'll give a good explaination just to counter yours. May and Dawn pretty much were the ones who represented contests. Even when May returned, it was only for a contest that was being held in the region that has a universal ribbon if won (as in, the ribbon counts in more regions than the one it is held at). The contests were removed from the series as a whole (as indicated by not only their absence in the games, but their absence in the anime, and even their having Jessie throw away her Jessalina dress after the Sinnoh Grand Festival). Since there is no contests in Unova, Dawn is participating in Contests in Hoenn, and May will most likely participate in contests in Sinnoh afterwards, the chances of them actually returning, even temporarily, are either null and void, or at such a small percentage that you can't get your hopes up.

Where is the proof that she is loved by all fans? Because I love Pokemon but I can't stand her, there are other people on this Forum that can't stand her either, 3 of my friends can't stand her and my brothers can't stand her. I want the link now, RIGHT NOW! because last time I checked, I am a human

It may not be all fans, but it is certainly the majority. The mere fact that Misty was not only in the Anime Classics Zettai!: 100 Must-See Japanese Animation Masterpieces, but was also covered in The Japanification of Children's Popular Culture, Pikachu's Global Adventure: The rise and fall of Pokemon, and even had her in a study about bullying and exploring gender role models indicates that she actually achieved popularity by the majority. In fact, its because of these sources that she even HAS a Wikipedia article to begin with. Likewise, if you search for May, Dawn, or even Iris on Wikipedia, you're more likely to find them in the List of Characters in the Pokemon Anime article, since thats the place where a lack of reputable outside sources goes to. Unless you can find arguements that bring up the point of May and Dawn being more popular than Misty on par with the sources cited here, don't bother claiming that May or Dawn are more popular than Misty.

Since you also wanted a link, here you go. I'll even give you two links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misty_(Pokemon)#Critical_Reception
https://ceruleanblues.multiply.com/journal/item/13/MistyScoop

I also actually have Pikachu's Global Adventure, and guess what, despite it being published around the same time AG was first entering America, not once did the author mention May at all, and it is implied that Misty's removal did have a lot to do with the show's decline.

 

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Ummm, okay:



I don't think anyone has said what I posted on this thread so how exactly am I copying people exactly?Secondly, you just proved my post, you yet again copied what I wrote but tried to switch it up so it can seem like I am the one that is actually copying other people.(you might want to look at all of your post again)



Now that comment sounds more like an opinion rather than fact. If you were to say "did I have proof that May and Dawn are considered "unlikeable" characters by the majority"? Then that is something to debate about, But when you put the statement like that, you are pretty much saying:
"They are not likeable characters at all"
Which is total bull, because I happen to love them both

It's funny how you answer my question with a question, I think you honestly did that because you CANNOT find any proof for the claim that you are making



How is having a fear of bugs normal? (my opinion that is). When she saw a bug she would freak out, hide and cry (and don't tell me she never has done that). It's not a fact, never stated it was---it was more like an observation. Oh yeah, it is very hypocritical thing for you to say to me that I need to get my facts straight before I say such a comment



I and other people keep on telling you this in this thread (or Forum for that matter), you do not know if they are not coming back, it doesn't even have to be a series regular, it could be as a cameo (that does qualify as coming back). As much as I can't stand Misty, I wish I can say that she is never coming back, she is gone for good or forever, but I know I can't because even her can make a apperance later on the show. Do I have proof if any character is coming back? No I do not, never stated I did and probably never will. Unlike you, I ask you a question like that and your answer results in "with another question" to counter me. I believe you do this because you cant answer my question so the only way to make yourself look good is to answer my question with another question. Oh yeah, nice insult btw, calling someone that does not make you look good, it makes it seem that you are getting tired of debating and the only way you feel that you are going to win this is by resorting to "child like" insults



Where is the proof that she is loved by all fans? Because I love Pokemon but I can't stand her, there are other people on this Forum that can't stand her either, 3 of my friends can't stand her and my brothers can't stand her. I want the link now, RIGHT NOW! because last time I checked, I am a human


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You got that wrong you are the one copying me you just prove your own self to be wrong in your own post,check your post out before you talk about my posts.

I said May and Dawn are unlikeable characters, but i didn't say a majority dislike them some fans dislike them and some fans do like them,Misty do have a lot of fans wether you like it or not ,there are a lot of fans on this forums that do like Misty,who cares if you or your dumb brothers don't like Misty , there are others that do like her no matter what you say since it is your opinions and your statements are not always facts or even true.

I already answer your question but you don't seem to get it do you, also Misty having a fear of bugs is normal for her to feel that way and it don't mean that she is acting like a baby either,you are the only one who can't stand Misty while the other fans on this forums like Misty and can stand her unlike May or Dawn.

May and Dawn will not ever be coming back on the show ever again,they were only here to promote pokemon contest and now that contests are done with they will not be coming back on the show since they have nothing to promote for contest since they are long gone,besides Unova region don't have pokemon contest which makes me happy,you need to deal with the fact that May and Dawn are never coming back get over it already,well atleast i gave you all of the proof you wanted.