Your View of God

[TeRex]

Well, I was raised and baptized in 2 religions, However I have my doubts that god exists. However if he does my view on him would be nothing. I don't care. He is the almighty the Creator. He is what he is. But my view on his existence well like i said i'm highly doubtful, but we cant prove he exists or doesn't so until science tells me otherwise its up for grabs

 

[Livewire]

The Big Bang Theory is a theory that really makes no sense at all, and really can't be proven. Same as the scientists who are trying to make us believe that we came from Monkeys, which is really not true, there might be similarities, but we are not monkeys.

I'll stand firm with my christian beliefs, rather than believe false theories that are out there.

You're misconstruing what the word theory means in scientific terms. Scientific theory = accepted fact until more research proves otherwise. We are primates, and The Big Bang has been scientifically observed.

 

[aspie3000]

Communist Russia fell because of an inherent flaw in Communism, not because they didn't believe in God. And are you really, really arguing that Christianity hasn't done things far worse than Communist Russia? What about the Crusades (and "chivalry" in general)? How about the Catholic Church's policy of non-involvement during the Holocaust? What about one of the things listed as a cause for the Protestant Reformation: the selling of indulgences (basically, paying money to the Church to be able to sin)? And don't forget, some of the first people to leave for America did so because of the religious intolerance and bigotry of Christians. Oh, and those Westboro folk I'm sure everyone here loves so much are also Christian. Oh, and since your knowledge of history seems so limited, there was one other empire in recent years that was very strongly Christian. They were known as the National Socialists, or the Nazis, and they were very, very strongly Christian. As were all of the Axis powers in WW2 (excluding the USSR, which, I might add, became an Allied power once betrayed by their Christian ally).

The point isn't that Christians are bad people because for the most part, they're not. The point is that there are good and bad people in any group and that pointing out one failure associated with atheism does not make any atheist philosophy an automatic failure. Don't just cherry pick one or two things from history to justify your position.

Okay, how is people being payed money to sin, and "bigotry" worse than killing than killing 150,000,000 people. That's the estimate of how many people Communism's killed. That is the most people killed by one group by a long shot.

And I'm tired of people whining about the crusades. Have you even read about them? The Turks were murdering Christians in brutal fashion in the Holy land. Heck, they conquered that land. I might also add that the Ottoman empire was trying to conquer the world at the time.

And Hitler only used Christianity as a propaganda tool because most Germans were Christians. In reality he hated Christianity. Some of the things that were taught to the youth in schools were as followed.

Christianity and Communism go hand in hand.

The New Testament is a Jewish plot.

Jesus was a Jew.

Jesus died whining on the cross.

Christianity does not differentiate between the white man and the negro.

He said during a speech something to the effect of, "Out of all the religions that Germany could have had, why did it have to be Christianity? Why couldn't we have the religion of the Japanese who worship the state?"

Mussolini was a similar case kissing the Catholics rear end because that was what Italy's main religion was. During his days giving lectures, he used to dare God to strike him dead where he stood if he existed. Then he'd give a whole speech on why God didn't exist.

And the Japanese's religion was Shinto.

 

[miltankRancher]

Well, if I am to be asked, I live in a very devout country (Philippines). we, generally view God as the Almighty Being. However, I don't quite get it. The concept of a higher being doesn't really sounds good to me so no. I don't believe in His existence. But I respect other's ideas as well.

 

[twocows]

Okay, how is people being payed money to sin, and "bigotry" worse than killing than killing 150,000,000 people. That's the estimate of how many people Communism's killed.

Citation needed. That sounds like propeganda to me.

And I'm tired of people whining about the crusades. Have you even read about them?

Yes, I've read and researched them extensively. I don't feel like arguing about history, I've got better things to do than screencap things on Wikipedia and posting giant red circles pointing to the relevant sections saying "IT'S RIGHT HERE."

The Turks were murdering Christians in brutal fashion in the Holy land.

True or not (correct answer is "not"), that is completely besides the point. The fact remains that Christians committed great atrocities in the Middle East during the Crusades. Two wrongs do not make a right, and their actions are unforgivable, both in the eyes of a Christian and in the eyes of anyone with a shred of decency.

And Hitler only used Christianity as a propaganda tool because most Germans were Christians. In reality he hated Christianity.

Oh, how convenient.

While you're really not citing anything in the claims you make after this, let's take it for granted that they're true (something I highly doubt). Even then, you've still completely missed my point. My point is that people do good and bad things in the name of any religion. There have been positive examples of Christians doing great things for the world, and there have been negative examples of Christians doing horrible, unforgivable atrocities. The person I responded to was making it seem like Christians can do no wrong and everything anyone has done in the name of Christianity was just the greatest thing ever. That's just plain wrong and you know it.

And the Japanese's religion was Shinto.

My mistake. I meant the west Axis powers. Though Japan does have a significant Christian population.

 

[Dakotah]

I'll make this short and sweet, since I have no desire to involve myself in a long, protracted argument about whether God in fact exists. I believe in what I can see with my eyes, what I can hear with my ears, what I can taste with my tongue, what I can smell with my nose, and what I can touch with my fingers. I find it a complete waste of time attempting to ascertain whether or not there is a life-form other than us which might be superior. Given statistical probability, I presume that such a creature does exist. But its existence does not mean that being is a "god." It is only human fear of death that causes us to create a mythology to reassure ourselves that even after physical death, we continue to live on.

I do not believe in God, or even that there is a God. I long ago gave up believing in invisible, imaginary friends.

 

[NidoJosh]

Well I am a Lutheran but I do believe in evolution
So yeah I basically disregard the majority of the old testament (particularly Genesis) as being literal.
There is simply to much proof to disregard evolution. It is very evident.

I doubt I'd ever give up my faith and I am searching into theistic e volution (creationism/evolutionist) views

 

[Pokemon Trainer Touko]

I'm an atheist and I will never believe in god.
The evolution theory is the way to go. o/

 

[Hassan_Abdillah]

"Scientific" justifications of religion (at least the ones I've seen) argue about creation theory. I haven't seen any arguments that would really exclude other religions.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here, are you saying "scientific" (sic) justifications go as far as proving creationism and that's where it ends? And so this doesn't resolve the God dilemma since multiple religions have creationism (albeit narrows it)?

 

[twocows]

I don't understand what you are trying to say here, are you saying "scientific" (sic) justifications go as far as proving creationism and that's where it ends? And so this doesn't resolve the God dilemma since multiple religions have creationism (albeit narrows it)?

A "sic" is used when there is a deliberate grammatical mistake you're trying to preserve from the author's original writing. That implies I made a mistake there, which I didn't (unless you're really picky about quotes, which I used to imply that their science is more like pseudoscience).

And yeah, that's pretty much what I was saying. I think. I had too much to drink with my relatives at Thanksgiving, so I'm a bit out of it right now. I'm pretty sure what I meant was that the arguments for creation science have all been given to try and prove the existence of a higher power, not really to prove one religion over another. Of course, that's just what I've seen argue. I tend to not really get into religious arguments too much, it usually ends up just making everyone mad and more convinced that they're right; nobody ever really listens.

 

[Charlie Kelly]

Well I am a Lutheran but I do believe in evolution
So yeah I basically disregard the majority of the old testament (particularly Genesis) as being literal.
There is simply to much proof to disregard evolution. It is very evident.

I doubt I'd ever give up my faith and I am searching into theistic e volution (creationism/evolutionist) views

Just curiosity on my part, not criticizing your beliefs, but how does that work? That is, believing in/following part of the sacred book of your religion? I mean, I have absolutely no problem picking and choosing beliefs that sit best with you. Do you really consider yourself a Lutheran, or was that just what you've always been, so you stick with it?

 

[Misheard Whisper]

Regarding the original question, my view of God is that he does not exist. He is a fabrication of mankind. I believe in what I can see, what I can hear, touch, taste and smell. Nothing else. Occam's Razor works both ways. Perhaps God is the simplest answer at a basic level, but at the same time he raises an infinite number of further questions.

 

[Minishcap]

I'm agnostic, leaning towards "God(s) may or may not exist, I won't change my life regardless".

I am however, extremely opposed to organized religion since in my opinion they're just like informercials. They promise alot of crap and exaggerate the importance of it, ofcourse for a price. Trying to get monopoly on God(s) just says it all.

Personal religious beliefs - whether one calls oneself Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Norse worshiper etc - is a important aspect for many people and should not be invaded upon by any state or organization. I very much enjoy reading religious texts and discussion theology, without the "God does not exist, you're retarded hahahahaha".

 

[Houndoomed]

Hello all,

I was born into a Greek Orthodox family with very devout grandparents. My parents however, due to various life experiences, have what I would describe as a silently agnostic view of god and an afterlife. They never spoke of religion in our home for no other reason than it did not seem important enough to discuss. I remember realising at a young age, being aware that religion existed that I have opportunity to believe whatever I wanted with no fear of judgement or retribution from my mother or father. Which was a much different way of life compared with cousins, friends and the Children at the Private Catholic school I attended (due to convenient location and quality of education,not religion to be clear) As a consequence, I have what I like think as a truly indiscriminate view of religion based on my opinion of course and research I have done. I am aware of my born faiths beliefs as well as most of the other main denominations around the globe.

Having said that, I truly believe that all religions are conspired corrupt manmade creations set upon the masses by the currently located hierarchy'sto control the way people behave and to install some kind of order to society. That being said as a general statement which could be made about most races and countries back until the dawn of scripted history. I also believe that it all began with good intentions, however not unlike most governments and police forces where there is opportunity to gain wealth by exploiting a position of power it will happen, it is human nature and I can say assuredly that it is occurring right now some where some place.

I am also aware that this may seem sceptical, cynical and possibly conspiracy theorist but I write this as a genuinely honest response without any blame laying or malice. Also, to be honest I was actually really excited to be able to give my opinion to what seems to be a very intelligent and non discriminate group of people. I find these conversations tend not to go as well in real life.I have adopted my parent's tactic of keeping what I think to myself as religionis not something that I practice at all. It exists, I respect the rights of others to believe in it, and that's where it leaves my thought process. I see it pointless to argue the fact of something that never enters my head unless mentioned by others. It neither annoys nor interests me.

My opinion is that this world came into being at some point by some random universal anomaly, much like many other things that happen allaround you every day. Medical, biological and geological findings clearly disprove many of the writings of religious scripture yet people choose to believe what they say in opposition to the fact that science provides the replacement explanation for happenings that were previously blamed on monsters and deities in stories.

In closing I believe we are on our own from the moment weare born and then die, spiritually, It might be sad to think about and I understand that it helps people to have faith in something whatever it may be,but I find simply not being burdened with it appears to me as an outsider a muchless stressful way to live.

Thanks for letting me have my say. No offence intended to anyone.



Zeus

 

[zoo3891]

For background, I was an extremely hateful Atheist (or anti-christian) about a year and a half ago. I now consider myself Agnostic, and still a bit bigoted towards Christianity.

Anyway, I can see that the world doesn't need a god to have come this far. I can see how evolution, and human accomplishments could have gotten us this far.

I do however believe there was a creator of some sort. I don't believe it interferes with humans, as we are just another animal living in this insanely large universe. But something had to cause the universe to come into existence, and that something is our creator.

Whether it did it intelligently, or it just happened is not something I can determine.

In short, I don't believe in afterlife, prayer, or anything like that. But it's pretty obvious we had a creator of some sort.

 

[lx_theo]

For background, I was an extremely hateful Atheist (or anti-christian) about a year and a half ago. I now consider myself Agnostic, and still a bit bigoted towards Christianity.

Anyway, I can see that the world doesn't need a god to have come this far. I can see how evolution, and human accomplishments could have gotten us this far.

I do however believe there was a creator of some sort. I don't believe it interferes with humans, as we are just another animal living in this insanely large universe. But something had to cause the universe to come into existence, and that something is our creator.

Whether it did it intelligently, or it just happened is not something I can determine.

In short, I don't believe in afterlife, prayer, or anything like that. But it's pretty obvious we had a creator of some sort.

Sounds like your beliefs would be more categorized as Deism. Basically its the belief that there is a creator to everything that walked away afterwards and let the creation flourish to its own existence. Its an intriguing approach on religion that manages to keep theism and science meshed together quite well. While I can't say I believe it, I'd suggest you'd look it up to see if your beliefs do in fact go along with it.

 

[Zet]

1st of all, I believe in science, reason, and logic. Next, I would like to inform everybody that I am an atheist. I don't believe in a deity/god/sky daddy/supreme being since there's no scientific and logical proof for one. I believe in the Big Bang theory rather than creationism.

By the way, if I'm asked about my view on the Christian god, I would say that the Christian god is quite confusing. Let's do a simple math first. What's the answer in the equation below?

1 + 1 + 1 = N

Well, if we're going to use simple math, the answer is 3.

1 + 1 + 1 = 3
1 + (1 + 1) = 3
(1 + 1) + 1 = 3

But according to Christianity, particularly those who believe in the Trinity:

1 + 1 + 1 = 1
1 + (1 + 1) = 1
(1 + 1) + 1 = 1

Other thing is that the Christian god, especially during the Old Testament times, is a very cruel and rude god. He even commanded to kill gays. (See Lev. 20:13)

That's my view on god. Thank you.

I don't even know where to begin with this ignorant post, but I guess I'll start with your "maths" dilemma . The Trinity is a scared mystery of the Christian faith being that God is made up of three different people. The father, the son and the holy spirit all being eternal, omnipotent, kicking your ass at air hockey etc etc. A quick google search would even give you that exact result and call you an idiot for even comparing it to simple maths that isn't even remotely relevant at all. Second of all, God does not hate the gays and wants them dead; he loves them like he loves everyone else regardless if they are of a different faith and even atheists and ignorant people who don't know anything about religion such as yourself. And that line you quoted could be translated to anything in another language since the bible isn't 100% translated correctly.

I'm an atheist and I will never believe in god.
The evolution theory is the way to go. o/

What if God created evolution? :P

 

[Dakotah]

What if God created evolution? :P

What if evolution created God?

 

[Zet]

What if evolution created God?

That is the right kind of thinking good sir!

 

[FreakyLocz14]

What if evolution created God?

That's impossible. Nothing existed before God did.