"You're all fags"

Yes, but it does deviate from standard English (hence why it's slang, and some definitions aren't), so you can't complain if people think you're using one of the more commonly used definitions. Let's take a look at a dictionary (note dictionaries contain common slang, it's only rare slang they lack):

Let's take a look at the dictionary:

fag n.
(colloquial, vulgar, derogatory) A male homosexual.
(US, colloquial, vulgar, pejorative) An annoying person. "Why did you do that, you fag?"
(colloquial, vulgar, derogatory) A homosexual person.

I could say "An apple isn't a fruit." if my personal usage of the word 'fruit' meant 'rock', and you couldn't complain, right?

Edit: ninja'd, but same response to that too. :P
 
Scarf said:
But there can be harm even if it's not intended to be an attack. Like if someone is being bullied in school because of their sexuality it could make them feel worse even if it's not directed at them. It's the whole atmosphere. It adds to what might already be a bad situation. There is no harm in trying to be considerate. I don't see why someone would intentionally be offensive once they know that what they're saying. And I can't believe there is anyone today who hasn't been told at least once that they shouldn't say "that's so gay" because it's offensive.
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I've said gay alot when I was in school and no one was offended. I've had the gay word directed at me sometimes. Like when someone tells me "your hair is very gay looking"; they mean that it's crazy looking.

We don't mean that gays are crazy, it's just a word. That's it. To me that is. Lately, people on another forum are telling me not to say "gay" :p


(also "fag" is also slang in Britain or Australia for "cigarette")
 
Gothitelle. said:



I've said gay alot when I was in school and no one was offended. I've had the gay word directed at me sometimes. Like when someone tells me "your hair is very gay looking"; they mean that it's crazy looking.

We don't mean that gays are crazy, it's just a word. That's it. To me that is. Lately, people on another forum are telling me not to say "gay" :p


(also "fag" is also slang in Britain or Australia for "cigarette")
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I very much understand the use of your words, they are meant to be emote something that is frustrated or "crazy".

However, this type of language usage is acceptable b/c homophobia is somewhat acceptable.

For instance, what if I said, BUT I WOULD NEVER SAY THIS, "You are a n****r," rather than saying "you are a f****t." Should both be acceptable if you believe that one of them is acceptable?

I think that the first example of the two would be highly scrutinized, but the latter would not be so harshly scrutinized. Is it our bias as a society?
 
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Gothitelle. said:



I've said gay alot when I was in school and no one was offended. I've had the gay word directed at me sometimes. Like when someone tells me "your hair is very gay looking"; they mean that it's crazy looking.

We don't mean that gays are crazy, it's just a word. That's it. To me that is. Lately, people on another forum are telling me not to say "gay" :p


(also "fag" is also slang in Britain or Australia for "cigarette")
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Even though most people around you might not take the word "gay" seriously, some do, and it really offends them when they hear it.
 
Eh, 'fag' as cigarette is impertinent ;)

But, then why not just say 'crazy'? From personal experience, 'gay hair' means something different for me lol XD
 
-ty- said:
I very much understand the use of your words, they are meant to be emote something that is frustrated or "crazy".

However, this type of language usage is acceptable b/c homophobia is somewhat acceptable.

For instance, what if I said, BUT I WOULD NEVER SAY THIS, "You are a n****r," rather than saying "you are a f****t." Should both be acceptable if you believe that one of them is acceptable?

I think that the first example of the two would be highly scrutinized, but the latter would not be so harshly scrutinized. Is it our bias as a society?
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I'm not a fan of the word f****t because of the way it sound and it sounds like another variation of the F word. For the N word, I do find that a little offfensive but I wouldn't blush over it. But yeah I dont think both should be accepted.
 
Gothitelle. said:
I'm not a fan of the word f****t because of the way it sound and it sounds like another variation of the F word. For the N word, I do find that a little offfensive but I wouldn't blush over it. But yeah I dont think both should be accepted.
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Saying this further goes to show why calling something gay can be inappropriate as far as I see it. You say the sound of said word makes you dislike using / hearing the word. Look at it from another person's perspective, it can be taken the same way. They're not a fan of hearing people refer to things as gay, because they find it inappropriate or unacceptable for the situation.

I also agree with -ty- when he said using the terms like "fag" or "gay" towards something else might not seem wrong to people, because essentially a majority of the world's population views being gay as something wrong.
 
Gothitelle. said:
I'm not a fan of the word f****t because of the way it sound and it sounds like another variation of the F word.
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Wait, are you saying you have a problem with the f-word, but not slurs..? :| One is only profanity and isn't even a derogative term.
 
Myles said:
Wait, are you saying you have a problem with the f-word, but not slurs..? :| One is only profanity and isn't even a derogative term.
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The f-word (if I'm thinking of the right one ;3) might be the most versatile vulgarism in the English language, though, which makes it sort of an exception. However, that also serves to downplay its impact as well... Regardless, there's not really a correlation between the two words.
 
As usual, I am offended. I often freak out when I hear such things. And the amount of time's I've got in trouble for retaliating... damn. I can't be friends with anyone who is homophobic or white/black supremacist.
 
God someone's an anti-social ***** xD
nah jkjk its actually pretty funny :)
lol its like me sayin "if i could punch every single one of you in the fface i gladly wuld"

and anyway
i just shrug em off
 
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Gothitelle. said:

Fag also means cigarette and such. So fag could mean alot of things.

The other, I am not a fan of.
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That word, without context of any kind, could mean a cigarette (in some countries), but when used as an insult never means a cigarette and is equivalent to the longer version of it. That little semantics dance isn't going to diminish how offensive it is and is no excuse for using it as a slur. I don't mean to direct this at you, but just to put it out there in case anyone tries to say otherwise.
 
I feel you should always watch what you say, at least publicly. I say this because you never know what kind of people could be around, and therefore you could very easily offend someone. I've had all types of stereotypical people around me (by that I mean people who are sometimes the target of stereotypes), and I know for a fact that most of the ones I've been around would be highly offended if I used the N-word or the aforementioned F-word around them. I honestly can say that now, in everyday conversation, I do not use these types of words because I am very aware that people can be easily offended.
 
Gothitelle. said:

Fag also means cigarette and such. So fag could mean alot of things.

The other, I am not a fan of.
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Just because a word has a homonym doesn't mean that its impact is divided equally between the two words.

fango pango said:
God someone's an anti-social ***** xD
nah jkjk its actually pretty funny :)
lol its like me sayin "if i could punch every single one of you in the fface i gladly wuld"

and anyway
i just shrug em off
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lol fango, sometimes I wonder what goes on in your mind.
 
Gothitelle. said:

Fag also means cigarette and such. So fag could mean alot of things.

The other, I am not a fan of.
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"Fag" and "faggot" mean the exact same thing, even if you're talking about a bundle of sticks or cigarettes. "Fag" is just a shorter version of "faggot." I don't see a problem with any use of it as long as it's not used in a harmful and vindictive way. And I am gay

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