"You're all fags"

In all honesty, I was going to write 'Please go hang yourself' until I noticed the quotation marks, if that tells you my stance on using slurs for insults. As for teasing people of that group with a slur and they know you're teasing, then whatever.
 
I'm not sure if the staff will feel the same way, so I'm not going to say any of these words just in case.
As long as it isn't being used to directly offend someone, it doesn't matter. I've heard gay people say the f word, I've heard black people use the n word (especially some rappers), so it honestly doesn't matter. If you walk up to someone that is gay and call them the f word, it could be deemed offensive, however.
 
Uhhhhh yeah. Saw this and almost flipped. I'll let this one slide, Gym, since we have a decent discussion here. Don't do it again please.

It varies. Some people are deeply offened by mere mention of the word, others only get offended if it's directed at a person, and others still don't even care. So it's hard to find common ground on what's truely offensive.
 
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Doesn't bother me, I use that word among many others at myself and friends. I've never used any of those words out of hate or to degrade anyone though. Maybe it'd be different if I myself were gay. Nah, probably not.
 
I'm kinda weird. If I'm on the internet and everyone's anonymous or the slur isn't directed at anyone in particular (or anyone I know), I tend to just glance over it and not even care. I'll even joke about it sometimes. But I'm also one of the most politically correct people I know. :\ If I'm in an unfamiliar situation or not alone with friends, I'll go out of my way to be as unoffensive as possible.

I do think society itself is getting a bit too politically correct, but I'll take that over hatred and bigotry coming from everywhere. I wish it were easier to walk a middle ground, though. I have no problem with words or language evolving to mean something different from its original meaning. Like I'm pretty okay with people saying "this is gay" and meaning the situation sucks, but everyone sort of has to accept the new meaning and so long as people get offended by things like that (and I can understand why they do, not putting anyone down over it [see what I mean about my political correctness? D:]), there will be a section of the population that feels the need for political correctness.
 
Lightning said:
I'm kinda weird. If I'm on the internet and everyone's anonymous or the slur isn't directed at anyone in particular (or anyone I know), I tend to just glance over it and not even care. I'll even joke about it sometimes. But I'm also one of the most politically correct people I know. :\ If I'm in an unfamiliar situation or not alone with friends, I'll go out of my way to be as unoffensive as possible.

I do think society itself is getting a bit too politically correct, but I'll take that over hatred and bigotry coming from everywhere. I wish it were easier to walk a middle ground, though. I have no problem with words or language evolving to mean something different from its original meaning. Like I'm pretty okay with people saying "this is gay" and meaning the situation sucks, but everyone sort of has to accept the new meaning and so long as people get offended by things like that (and I can understand why they do, not putting anyone down over it [see what I mean about my political correctness? D:]), there will be a section of the population that feels the need for political correctness.
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I'm against political corectness. While I don't go out of my to offend people or groups, I'm also not the type of person to filter my speech out of fear that it might offend someone who is easily offended.
 
Lightning said:
I'm kinda weird. If I'm on the internet and everyone's anonymous or the slur isn't directed at anyone in particular (or anyone I know), I tend to just glance over it and not even care. I'll even joke about it sometimes. But I'm also one of the most politically correct people I know. :\ If I'm in an unfamiliar situation or not alone with friends, I'll go out of my way to be as unoffensive as possible.

I do think society itself is getting a bit too politically correct, but I'll take that over hatred and bigotry coming from everywhere. I wish it were easier to walk a middle ground, though. I have no problem with words or language evolving to mean something different from its original meaning. Like I'm pretty okay with people saying "this is gay" and meaning the situation sucks, but everyone sort of has to accept the new meaning and so long as people get offended by things like that (and I can understand why they do, not putting anyone down over it [see what I mean about my political correctness? D:]), there will be a section of the population that feels the need for political correctness.
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Agreed on the bold. Definitely.

Live_Wire466 said:
Uhhhhh yeah. Saw this and almost flipped. I'll let this one slide, Gym, since we have a decent discussion here. Don't do it again please.

It varies. Some people are deeply offened by mere mention of the word, others only get offended if it's directed at a person, and others still don't even care. So it's hard to find common ground on what's truely offensive.
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Don't worry about it. Gymnotide is a quality poster <3
lol But quotation marks are funny.
 
I get offended, even if it doesn't relate to me, by any bigot remark. I hate racial slurs, I hate when someone tosses the word gay around at anything they dislike, I hate derogatory comments... they're all just things I find very difficult to tolerate.
 
I'm against political corectness. While I don't go out of my to offend people or groups, I'm also not the type of person to filter my speech out of fear that it might offend someone who is easily offended.
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Good luck getting your butt kicked. It's not about being "politically correct". It's about respect and solidarity for other's emotions.
 
I want to address a term that often goes overlooked and that is never deemed as a bad term because it is used for the "norm" of society: straight. Straight has a very bad connotation because it suggests that being heterosexual is the correct way to be, suggesting that being homosexual is bent and not correct.

In fact, change the name to this thread to "You're all straight" and see what happens. The same amount of homosexuals will come in with the same views they did for the original title, but far less heterosexuals will be offended or have an opinion they want to share.
 
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I want to address a term that often goes overlooked and that is never deemed as a bad term because it is used for the "norm" of society: straight. Straight has a very bad connotation because it suggests that being heterosexual is the correct way to be, suggesting that being homosexual is bent and not correct.
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What's wrong with being bent?

In fact, change the name to this thread to "You're all straight" and see what happens. The same amount of homosexuals will come in with the same views they did for the original title, but far less heterosexuals will be offended or have an opinion they want to share.
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Well it makes sense. If the title was "You're all straight" a straight person would probably be like, "Oh. Okay." whereas a gay person would come in to say "Actually, I'm gay please don't assume kthnx!".

Personally, I'm not offended and I'm gay. Maybe people need to not be so sensitive and give whoever called somebody a fag the satisfaction that they want, because that just gives them incentive to keep on doing it.
 
Penatrait said:
I want to address a term that often goes overlooked and that is never deemed as a bad term because it is used for the "norm" of society: straight. Straight has a very bad connotation because it suggests that being heterosexual is the correct way to be, suggesting that being homosexual is bent and not correct.

In fact, change the name to this thread to "You're all straight" and see what happens. The same amount of homosexuals will come in with the same views they did for the original title, but far less heterosexuals will be offended or have an opinion they want to share.
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Actually the word 'straight' was started in the LGBT community to mean 'ex-gay' (yeah...), but now has the meaning heterosexual. Regardless of etymology, it isn't offensive and I don't think you would get that response.
 
Honestly my first thought seeing the title was "this is going to be a discussion on the common usage of gay, etc. as a synonym to lame, bogus, dumb, etc. or probably something along those lines."

And thus this thread proves my psychic abilities.

Getting to the topic,
You know what? Unless it's being used in a harmful context, I don't care.
It makes the person saying it look absolutely moronic, and if I confront and flip out when it was used harmlessly, I look like a hyper-sensitive prick.

If a person is in danger and it's being used to express hatred, then I will come to aid. Otherwise, it's pointless intervening.

And I'd have to agree with what you said Gymnotide, pertaining to someone of minority coming into the room and everyone cleans up language to not offend. Although that's considerate in its own way, it makes the person feel more of a hindrance to the way you talk and it amplifies the "you're different" feeling that I'm sure they're sick of by now.
The best way to fix this problem is to understand where that person stands on the subject. And if they're hyper-sensitive and extremely defensive, they're probably not the kind of friend someone would want anyway. If they're in for understanding each other, I'm sure you can come to some sort of agreement that benefits both parties.
 
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And I'd have to agree with what you said Gymnotide, pertaining to someone of minority coming into the room and everyone cleans up language to not offend. Although that's considerate in its own way, it makes the person feel more of a hindrance to the way you talk and it amplifies the "you're different" feeling that I'm sure they're sick of by now.
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It's not an ideal situation, no, but it's better than if the people continued speaking offensively, knowing that someone in the room was being offended or would likely be offended. Of course, it would be better if people didn't speak offensively or give off the "you're different" vibe in the first place. It's not like we have to accept that people are going to always treat others as "different" like it's some unchangable part of our DNA. It only takes a little understanding and kindness to get to the point where we don't make or feel the need to make off-color comments about someone's sexuality, race, etc.
 
I typically find it very ignorant and upsetting when people use insults based on sexuality, race, religion, etc. because of the fact that for many things, used here as Sexuality based slurs, it's who someone is and to use that as an insult is tremendously infuriating, and it shows you don;t have the intelligence or compassion for your fellow man- both to insult anyone in the first place and then insult an entire group of people by using that insult!
 
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It's not an ideal situation, no, but it's better than if the people continued speaking offensively, knowing that someone in the room was being offended or would likely be offended. Of course, it would be better if people didn't speak offensively or give off the "you're different" vibe in the first place. It's not like we have to accept that people are going to always treat others as "different" like it's some unchangable part of our DNA. It only takes a little understanding and kindness to get to the point where we don't make or feel the need to make off-color comments about someone's sexuality, race, etc.
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You make a good point.

Thinking about other solutions, it begs to show that the situation, as a whole, is very much odd.
If a person does make a "gay, whatever" comment when someone in the room is gay, whatever, it makes someone feel alienated.
If they hold it in to not offend, it gives the same effect.

So, your last sentence there, seems to be the only real remedy for it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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