Yveltal-EX partners

osmyth

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    Hi all, would appreciate some advice on partners for Yveltal-EX, in Standard.
    Am helping my son (9) create his first deck, for local tournaments.
    We have chopped and changed quite a few times (much to his annoyance) but have settled on the following, although now appreciate (thanks others) this may be a more complicated deck for a beginner, but we are where we are (it will be a good learning exercise!).

    2 Yveltal-EX
    2 Yveltal (O.Wing)
    1 Drampa-GX
    1 Tauros-GX (with Ninja Boy)

    We have all the cards above.
    We need a minimum of one more basic, plus anything else which is suitable.

    So,
    Shaymin/Lele ? on a budget so too expensive
    Darkrai-EX ? expensive and playing 4 DCE
    Yveltal/Yveltal-EX ? probably simplest option. If new Garbodor lives up to the hype then would lean away from discard cards which doesn?t help with O.Wing.
    Drampa-GX ? more of the same, planning on using 1+ Rainbow energy to help if early attacker
    Yveltal Fright Night
    Yveltal Break
    Garbodor (Garbotoxin) ? Field Blower would reduce impact?
    Alolan Muk ? only impacts Basics
    Mew (Memories of Dawn)
    Umbreon EX ? too situational?
    Eevee/Umbreon-GX
    Wait for new Darkrai
    Wait for new Darkrai-GX
    A N Other1 ? to make use of lots of D/DC energy on bench
    A N Other2 ? to make use of Rainbow energy, e.g. LCC or LC attack, appreciate may not be consistent
    Something else completely?

    Would prefer not to go for something that may be rotated out, as money is money!

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
    As mentioned in the other thread Shaymin is really required for Yveltal. Come rotation Yveltal is gonna be a really bad deck.

    Greninja BREAK is coming back and doesnt play any shaymins and is an easyish deck to learn and v. competitive.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...ninja+break.TRS0&_nkw=greninja+break&_sacat=0

    Greninja BREAK is the most expensive card in the deck, at around ?10.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-Froak...326974?hash=item3f78e6bbfe:g:pyMAAOSwuLZY3Os3

    Rest of the main core is there for a tenner.
     
    Ok, humour me for a bit!

    If you were playing Yveltal-EX, Yveltal O.Wing, Drampa and Tauros, then regardless of trainers and Shaymin/Lele, would you play any other basics/lines or just more of the same?

    Thanks.
     
    osmyth said:
    Ok, humour me for a bit!

    If you were playing Yveltal-EX, Yveltal O.Wing, Drampa and Tauros, then regardless of trainers and Shaymin/Lele, would you play any other basics/lines or just more of the same?

    Thanks.
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    You might want an evolution line just to have SOMETHING to use in the event you come up against something with the Safeguard ability. Not sure what, though.
     
    Or, you know, Garbodork. Who cares about Safeguard when you disable it anyway?

    Without running Shay/Lele, honestly Lugia is better than Yvelt (and even then, Lele is literally just a better Lugia).

    So as mentioned, you are not building a competitive Yveltal deck without top of the line cards. It doesn't work.
     
    Ok, you have twisted my arm! Will get most/all the staples required.
    Re the deck, please could you contribute to this thread (Decidueye, thanks already).
    https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=9649543

    Hands said:
    As mentioned in the other thread Shaymin is really required for Yveltal. Come rotation Yveltal is gonna be a really bad deck.
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    Are you suggesting that any decks reliant on a lot of energy acceleration will be poor post Shaymin?
    Thanks.
     
    osmyth said:
    Ok, you have twisted my arm! Will get most/all the staples required.
    Re the deck, please could you contribute to this thread (Decidueye, thanks already).
    https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=9649543



    Are you suggesting that any decks reliant on a lot of energy acceleration will be poor post Shaymin?
    Thanks.
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    No, Yveltal is an exception. LaprasBox gets Aqua Patch and still has Palkia EX/Max Elixir, Darkrai still has Max Elixir/Baby Yveltal, Volcanion EX still has baby Volc, the new Supporter coming out in SM3 and Turtanator GX, fairy based energy decks (Snorlax GX, some Lugia and Giratina builds, Xerneas BREAK, M Gardy) still have max eilixir and Xerneas from STS

    It's just Yveltal really needs the speed of Shaymin and it cant really survive without it.

    All other speed decks either run on DCE (Lugia, Lele, Darkrai), run on your benched energy too (Darkrai, Gardevoir) or have dedicated type-based support (Lapras, Gardevoir, Volcanion).

    Carbink BREAK allows for fast energy on fighting decks.

    Also baby Rayquaza is a thing now which is really helpful.
     
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