Call of Duty: Black Ops

[JP]

They stated that the multiplayer maps came first and single player levels were built from that, if I recall correctly.

Indeed. For the previous games it was the other way around, however for Black Ops, Treyarch decided to work on the multiplayer from day one. The multiplayer maps came first and the campaign maps followed.

 

[Graphical]

Wait what, how does that work?

You mean you swapped your regular grenade for the tomahawk, and your smoke grenade out for the nova gas?

Yes, that's what I meant. I would prefer if I could swap them around though, so tomahawk is one left and nova gas on the right.

Thats pretty impressive. Don't forget though, thats only one game, try to keep that up if you can (;

Thanks! It's like when I first got the game and kept forgetting I could use the knife when I was up behind somebody. Still getting used to it. It can be a real help at getting people in the bedrooms in Nuketown though.

 

[Arcanine]

Here's a topic I heard somewhere...
If you could add, edit, and remove 1 thing what would they be (as in 1 add, 1 edit, and 1 remove)?

 

[Alternative]

That seems like a suitable topic. Are we talking Multiplayer or just the game in general? That might help. Anyway...

Add: Death Streaks. They were pretty good in MW2 and really evened out the game for those who weren't as good at first.
Edit: If the first one was added, Second Chance to the death streaks. People just use it and abuse the Second Chance perk and it's really quite annoying.
Remove: Nuketown. Sure it's a fun map and all, but it's too small for my taste, and everyone seems to really love it. Even make it bigger if you really need to keep it.

 

[Jake♫]

Add: Stopping Power. Yes, I realize that it's going to more than likely dominate whatever perk slot its in, and it could potentially get overpowering. It's just one of those useful perks that I miss =P
Edit: Ghost. I have no idea how, but it needs some sort of nerf at this point.
Remove: Second Chance. GTFO

 

[Alex_]

That seems like a suitable topic. Are we talking Multiplayer or just the game in general? That might help. Anyway...

Add: Death Streaks. They were pretty good in MW2 and really evened out the game for those who weren't as good at first.

Are you kidding?! What part of shooting a person a billion times due to Painkiller or getting killed by someone in Final Stand was fun to you? Deathstreaks are a horrible idea.

Anyway, if I were to add something I'd add dedicated servers. Something I'd edit would be Ghost. I'd make it be in the perk slot that Ninja is in, so that they if you couldn't see someone, you could always hear them. If I were to remove something, it'd be Second Chance. For obvious reasons.

 

[El Héroe Oscuro]

That seems like a suitable topic. Are we talking Multiplayer or just the game in general? That might help. Anyway...

Add: Death Streaks. They were pretty good in MW2 and really evened out the game for those who weren't as good at first.
Edit: If the first one was added, Second Chance to the death streaks. People just use it and abuse the Second Chance perk and it's really quite annoying.
Remove: Nuketown. Sure it's a fun map and all, but it's too small for my taste, and everyone seems to really love it. Even make it bigger if you really need to keep it.

Thats why they have "Combat Training" in Black Ops instead of Death Streaks. Death Streaks were a nuisance for others in MW2 when you were getting killed for someone else's horrendous skills. Plus, if Second Chance was a Death Streak, it would still be very annoying to a lot of players.

Add: Shotguns as secondary's (or at least more variety of weapons as secondary's). All the secondaries in Black Ops bore me, so most of the time I just use a Strela as a back-up. I don't care about the "oh, thats not realistic to have a shotgun as a secondary" argument, I would just like to have the level of fun as I did in MW2.
Edit: The knife action. People are just getting ridiculous knife lunges nowadays. Treyarch, that's not cool, please fix that...
Remove: Second Chance has to go, its pretty much the equivalence of a Death Streak in my opnion. If you have Second Chance equipped, your already saying "Oh, I'm going to go down, might as well try to get a cheap kill while I'm at it." No. Everyone should just grow a pair and man up; Second Chance is a cheap perk.

 

[JP]

Thats why they have "Combat Training" in Black Ops instead of Death Streaks. Death Streaks were a nuisance for others in MW2 when you were getting killed for someone else's horrendous skills. Plus, if Second Chance was a Death Streak, it would still be very annoying to a lot of players.

Add: Shotguns as secondary's (or at least more variety of weapons as secondary's). All the secondaries in Black Ops bore me, so most of the time I just use a Strela as a back-up. I don't care about the "oh, thats not realistic to have a shotgun as a secondary" argument, I would just like to have the level of fun as I did in MW2.
Edit: The knife action. People are just getting ridiculous knife lunges nowadays. Treyarch, that's not cool, please fix that...
Remove: Second Chance has to go, its pretty much the equivalence of a Death Streak in my opnion. If you have Second Chance equipped, your already saying "Oh, I'm going to go down, might as well try to get a cheap kill while I'm at it." No. Everyone should just grow a pair and man up; Second Chance is a cheap perk.

I pretty much agree. I'm not huge on shotguns as secondaries, but a more interesting selection for secondaries would have been cool. Hell, more customization to the Ballistic Knife or Crossbow (SCOPE?!?!?!?!?) would have been amazing!

As for the knifing, it's not so much the lunging that bothers me but the angle at which you're able to knife someone. Countless times have I been knifed by someone who was looking beside me, or even BEHIND me.

Finally, I think it's safe to say that all of the people who play this game a lot agree on the removal of Second Chance. Horrible horrible horrible Perk. I honestly don't know what possessed the Treyarch team to even keep it.

 

[Arcanine]

Add: Stopping Power. Yes, I realize that it's going to more than likely dominate whatever perk slot its in, and it could potentially get overpowering. It's just one of those useful perks that I miss =P

I agree, removing Stopping Power was a bad idea. Yea it was overused but look at some of the probs we have now.


Add: Dedicated servers. There's lots of things I'd like to have in the game, but why do I have to suffer 3 bar vs 4 bar lag all the time? I know my connection is good enough to have 4 bar. So why do I have to suffer getting connected to a host that only gives himself 4 bar, or I end up getting connected to Japan when I live in the US? On top of that, I wouldn't get a loss just because the host Dashboards. Oh and know how some of your games in theater mode is cut up and sometimes it's not there at all? Well that's because the host switches, but if you had dedicated servers all of your games would be recorded and not broken up.
Well... I do wish I had a button (only me) where I could blow up anyone's console. If they used Second Chance on me, or they were dragging the team down. Or doing nothing to help capture a flag then I'd just press the button and down at the bottom it'd say "[Gamertag here] has disconnected due to transmission error". Now that'd be fun.

Edit: Ghost. As much as I complain about the perk, say anyone who uses it is skilless, etc... I think it has a place in the game. And in the past games it wasn't a prob because you had Stopping Power and they gave that up to not be seen on the UAV. So if someone was camping in a building toss a grenade in there and that'd fix their little red wagon. But on Black Ops you can't run into a building without having someone with Ghost camping in there with an AK74u and a motion sensor.
I would not only move to to the second or third slot. Second because how many people would give up Warlord on their 74u, or give up Slight of Hand. Third because how many would give up Ninja (not that it's that useful...), or Hacker... or even Second Chance? But also make it where you still showed up on the Spy Plane (every other line update), both Ghost and Ghost Pro.

Remove: The secondary weapon killstreak killers. I was trying to think of a way to word that so I didn't have people go "Oh you want the LAW and the Strela-3 removed? That's 2 things...". XD
But really, I can't stand my stuff getting shot down. I work to earn a 9 killstreak (I normally run Hardline so 8 kills), and when I get it the enemy team should suffer because they were bad enough to give me them kills. Why should I have to work my butt off getting 9 kills only to get shot down by someone going 2 and 17? How is that fair? That person likely gave me half of the kills needed for my Chopper Gunner, so due to that person's stupidity they suffer. It's brutal and mean but they gave me a Chopper Gunner so I should be able to use it. And this is coming from someone who shoots down choppers (I don't do it as much as I did in MW2, where I'd hear something come in and I'd kill myself right then and there to switch classes). Why should my 9 killstreak be shot down in the blink of an eye? You want to take down my Chopper Gunner? Run a Sam Turrent, try to get them 4 kills without dying... still not fair to be able to take down a 9 or 11 killstreak but at least it's better then having someone run Strela as their secondary. Or do what us oldies did back in the CoD4 days.... pull out an RPD with Double Tap and lay into that Chopper, or do like others and shot an RPG at it.

 

[Gummy]

Add: Sniper maps maps. I applaud Treyarch for making an effort to fix the monstrosity that was quick scoping, but now with there maps I feel no reason to ever use a Sniper Rifle. I miss the days of playing Cliffside on World at War, where sniper rifles were your best option for long range combat. The current assault rifles can easily kill someone across the map if placed in the right hands. The only time I have ever used my sniper class was to goof off and get funny kills; I was never a true asset to my team.

Edit: The way the Prestige system works. I simply cannot say the pros of prestiging out-weigh the cons. I absolutely hate having to level up to unlock guns, then grind for money to buy them, then grind even more for trivial things that should be one-time buys (reticle color, lens color, clan tag). I'm not saying give us everything as soon as we unlock it, but perhaps give the amount of money/exp you earn a multiplier based on your prestige level.

Remove: Second Chance. I really like how they changed who gets kill credit/assist credit for SC kills, but it still feels like putting a band-aid on a gun shot wound. If it must stay, they need to change it back to only other people with SC can revive you, and you don't contribute to captures while in SC. The latter is what really rustles my jimmies.

 

[Karel_Kazuki]

Add:Easter Egg Theater.I want to be able to piece the Zombies storyline together and that would make it easier. Also custom map capabilities for the consoles.It would save the trouble of waiting for map packs to come out when everyone can make their own.

Edit:Knifing.It pisses me off that someone I clearly knifed doesnt feel it,but he can run past me and his can work.Also tweak the classes a bit and Give better secondaries.Peple choose their set ups based on whats available,and when everytng else in that Perk selection or Secondry class is crappy,they decide to Run Ghost or use Strela,especially if the frightening sound of a hind is approaching.(I use Ghost and Strela, but I'm not a noob,My matches are about equal to the guys who GOT the Hind,if not less because of it's kills.But Mine come from Dogs because even if they can be shot down,they respawn.)To add on to that,I think Hardened was trying to be both FMJ and stopping power,so if they tweaked that a little,it could become a valuable asset.

Remove:Anybody with a One bar connection.Most of the time, they get lag kills because the server chooses them as the host.Other times, the full match because of someone with connection problems.Why should they even be allowed in the game if their connection is that terrible?It ruins the games for other people,in my opinion.

 

[Black Ice]

Add: Balance for perks. There is a reason everyone uses Second Chance and Ghost instead of anything else.

Edit: Would be nice if people who prestige don't lose everything. More incentive to prestige, but it loses its challenge. I dunno how this would work. Or, alternatively, making it so that only people who have Second Chance/Pro can revive other SC users. Just like in WAW.

Remove: Selecting a random host. There should at least be an option for people who have bad connection to not have to be host and then everyone else suffers.


I have also become really interested in exploring all the maps recently. Nuketown Extended would be a really interesting map, and so would Launch. I've always wanted to climb all the way up to the rocket area. Or at least explore the other buildings outside the playable area.

 

[Alternative]

One more thing I'd like to add, maybe getting rid of my death streaks idea, is maybe camo cusomisation. Sure there's plenty of colours and patterns to choose from, but maybe if there were basic templates and you could change the colour scheme of those templates to whatever colour scheme you wanted. Of course the colours would be simple, like you wouldn't be able to use red overlapping green or anything, so id you chose a red colour scheme, it would use colours based off of that colour scheme, so red, blood red and maroons.

Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing removed, or even edited is the emblem system they have. Sure it's a cool thing to have on there, but it does get pretty bad when half the people on the game think "Ooh Custom Emblems :o" and decide to live out their gay fetishes and make it a penis. I have no idea why they do that it's weird. :/

 

[Black Ice]

That's what the "report emblem" is for. And Treyarch actually does take action for it. I've met plenty of people who get banned from editing their emblems. Sometimes if I'm in a pissy mood I will point out an inappropriate emblem in the lobby and get everyone to report the guy.

I'd like more ways to customise your emblems, actually. Something like transparent masks or extra layers for the people who prestiged or something. I still don't feel like prestiging has enough benefits for a lot of people to actually do it.

 

[I Laugh at your Misfortune!]

Add: Machine pistol secondaries. I think shotguns could be decent primaries if Treyarch just boosted their range a tiny bit, but I'd still like to have a slightly better secondary. I miss my G18 akimbos :P

Edit: Change Second Chance so you can only be revived by other people with Second Chance Pro AND using Second chance Pro removes your secondary and replaces it with a Medic Kit.

Remove: The ability to vote for the previous map. Yes, Nuketown is sometimes fun but why does everybody want to play it ten times in a row?

 

[Rayziken 2]

I have Black-Ops, and I must say that it is one of the most addicting games that I have ever played.

The graphics are realistic, and the map Nuketown is absolutely amazing when playing online!

Zombies is a great addition to the game, and is a very creative way of what is basically, target practice.

Also, if you use a Skorpion with the Rapid Fire attachment when you unlock it, you get a lot of kills for such a low level. If you can, use it with the Sleight Of Hand perk.

 

[JP]

One more thing I'd like to add, maybe getting rid of my death streaks idea, is maybe camo cusomisation. Sure there's plenty of colours and patterns to choose from, but maybe if there were basic templates and you could change the colour scheme of those templates to whatever colour scheme you wanted. Of course the colours would be simple, like you wouldn't be able to use red overlapping green or anything, so id you chose a red colour scheme, it would use colours based off of that colour scheme, so red, blood red and maroons.

Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing removed, or even edited is the emblem system they have. Sure it's a cool thing to have on there, but it does get pretty bad when half the people on the game think "Ooh Custom Emblems :o" and decide to live out their gay fetishes and make it a penis. I have no idea why they do that it's weird. :/

I'm almost positive that we'll end up seeing camo customization in the near future. With so much customization that's taken place in Black Ops, it'd be a logical step forward if you ask me. I think at this point, I'd like to see future CoD installments be two discs. I remember hearing that Treyarch was having difficulties putting all this material on a single disc. Seriously, perhaps keeping the campaign and whatever co-op feature on one disc and having a second disc only for the multiplayer. It would allow for so much more, and I think with everything that Black Ops introduced with customization, it'd be a logical set up.

As for the removal of custom emblems, I'd hate to see it go. I don't think it'd be fair to the people who use it in an appropriate matter. Treyarch knew such a thing would happen, they even stated in an article before the games' release. This is one of the reasons they put in that report feature. If anything, they should put the punishment into effect sooner (which is the removal of using the custom emblem editor if you've been inappropriate with it too many times.)

 

[RockHardSemi]

Add: Better secondary weapons (I too would love a scope on the crossbow!) and perhaps a few more interesting Kill Streaks to choose from.

Edit: The Blackbird Killstreak. Either for it to be able for it to be damaged by rockets (so it doesn't operate for as long as it does) or make it a harder killstreak to achieve such as 10/11 or something.

Remove: Second Chance. The amount of times I've died to someone falling down into Second Chance - gaining Hulk like health - and shooting me with their primary until they finally pull out their pistol shortly after. It also annoys me that they can be put into Second Chane, multiple times! After the first time it should be called Third Chance, Fourth Chance etc. .

 

[Arcanine]

but it still feels like putting a band-aid on a gun shot wound.

Funny that you say that because people who use Second Chance that are killed by a shotgun don't drop into Second Chance, they die like any other normal person. XD

Remove: The ability to vote for the previous map.

I agree, I love playing on a good map and then playing it again, but it needs to be 2 random maps to pick from, and if you don't like them two then you get a third unknown map. Just having the last map there makes it worse for bad players going against a good team, and is a pain for good players to play on bad maps a second time.

and the map Nuketown is absolutely amazing when playing online!

Funny...

As for the removal of custom emblems, I'd hate to see it go. I don't think it'd be fair to the people who use it in an appropriate matter.

I agree, it's sad that good players have to pay due to bad players abusing something. Like rapid fire/modded controllers. I have died more times then I can count because I used the FAL/M14 and the weapon locked up on me because it thought I had a mod. The G3 on CoD4 used to be such a good weapon (it was my fav weapon) because I had/have a super fast trigger finger, but they dumbed it down because of modded controllers. I heard that the reason why they removed the YY reload thing was because some modded controllers had it were you could pretty much keep firing without having to reload due to YY. These probs only hurt the good players, the people who have a slow reaction time want an auto aim mod to counter the good players, the people who can't shoot fast want a rapid fire controller to counter the good players with fast trigger fingers, the people who use glitches want a way to combat the good players because they lack skill. The normal casual player out there could care less about them removing YY, could care less about the M14/FAL locking up. But the good players... well they get hurt at the end of the day. People don't want to get better at the game, they want to take shortcuts to get better.
My point is... why should other people have to suffer due to a few others? Same thing with emblems, why do good people who don't abuse emblems have to do without because some people abused them?

 

[Gummy]

Funny that you say that because people who use Second Chance that are killed by a shotgun don't drop into Second Chance, they die like any other normal person. XD

Really? I had no idea they did that. Definitely going to test that with my brother or friends. o_o

Oh how I wish shotguns were secondary weapons. These ones don't even feel OP (but that's probably because they're primaries).