Middle East conflicts?

[Ivysaur]

I honestly doubt the people will allow a Junta to take over after all of this, remember that the military was also supporting the people. Specially seeing how democracy works so wonderfully well in Turkey, the Western countries would rather help them get their demands of freedom instead of allowing another bunch of dictators in.

 

[Netto Azure]

I honestly doubt they'll allow a Junta after all of this. Specially seeing how democracy works so wonderfully well in Turkey, the Western countries would rather help them get their demands of freedom instead of allowing another bunch of dictators in.

I completely agree with you.

I just hope all the billions of dollars we gave to the Military would nudge the military to allowing free and fair elections as soon as possible.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I wonder if they are still going to go with Elections in September or have them earlier in the year...

 

[Ivysaur]

They'll probably end up having Constitutive elections to write an actual one while keeping an interim president until they are done, so the just-legalized parties will have enough time to get ready for the presidential elections.

Mainly because the actual consitution pretty much says that only Mubarak or someone elected by him can run for president :\

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I'm glad that the Egyptians are cleaning up their country and starting to rebuild, that's a good sign that things are going back to normal only this time they don't have a dictator as a president :D

 

[Ivysaur]

Now there is a civil war in Libya, whee.

https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/21/libya-uprising-middle-east-protests

The religious authorities have stated that a government has lost their moral authority and should eb fought after ordering the army to kill all the citizens attending the demonstrations. Fun times.

Meanwhile, the Bahrein F1 Grand Prix has been cancelled. I doubt it can be hosted again in the near future.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

The whole Middle East sure is flared up after the ousting of the Dictators in Tunisia and Egypt...I hope that all these nations can oust their dictators like the those two did :)

 

[Livewire]

Now there is a civil war in Libya, whee.

https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/21/libya-uprising-middle-east-protests

The religious authorities have stated that a government has lost their moral authority and should eb fought after ordering the army to kill all the citizens attending the demonstrations. Fun times.

Meanwhile, the Bahrein F1 Grand Prix has been cancelled. I doubt it can be hosted again in the near future.

From what I've heard, the situation in Libya could end up worse than the previous revolutions. Not to mention things in Bahrain, Algeria, and Yemen seem to be heating up too.

 

[Margot]

They say a civil war started in Libya? I thought that was what Gaddafi's son said would happen if the protestors kept it up. I can't believe what they're doing over there, but I'm relieved to hear that some of the military is actually risking their lives by not obeying orders to kill protestors.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Yeah it's crazy out there from what I heard...no one really knows what's going on some rumors said the leader fled, some say he didn't...
The police is shooting down people to get them to go back to oppression...I liked Egypt's Regime better than Libya's...

 

[Margot]

Yeah communication is pretty messed up there, and I heard that Gaddafi was ordering jets to attack the protesters in the streets :/ there's also some sources saying that Egypt opened its borders to people in Libya so they can get help from the hospitals since the hospitals there are shut down from helping anyone, which I think is really great.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Jets 0_0...if that's true than their leader is worse than I thought...

 

[Ivysaur]

As far as it's know (there is only one official journalist in the country, Ben Wedeman from CNN), Eastern Libya is under the opposition's control. The second biggest city in the country also seems to have fallen under their rule and all airports have been blocked.

Meanwhile, several ambassadors and diplomats have resigned or joined the opposition, as well as the ministers of Justice, Oil and Security. The UN Security Council will have an emergency meeting this evening.

https://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/...ant-and-cautious-as-they-await-gadhafis-move/
https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/22/libya-erupts-gaddafi-live-updates

 

[Netto Azure]

I have also read the stuff that Went said. I just am really surprised at how fast these things happened in Libya. It was one of the countries that people thought the regime would be hard to dislodge, if ever.

Still: Defiant Gaddafi refuses to quit amid Libya protests

Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi has refused to stand down amid widespread anti-government protests which he said had tarnished the image of the country.
In his first major speech since unrest began last week, Col Gaddafi said the whole world looked up to Libya and that protests were "serving the devil".
Reading from the country's constitution, he said enemies of Libya would be executed.
Rights groups say nearly 300 have been killed in the violence so far.
A defiant and angry Col Gaddafi said that he had brought glory to Libya. As he had no official position from which to resign, he would remain the head of the revolution, he said.
He blamed the unrest on "cowards and traitors" who were seeking to portray Libya as a place of chaos and to "humiliate" Libyans. At other points he referred to the protesters as cockroaches or rats and mercenaries.
State TV had said Col Gaddafi was going to announce "major reforms" in his speech, but the only such reference was to some devolution of power to local authorities.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I also thought it would be harder to take this guy down...instead his regime is collapsing around him like a ton of bricks...
Oh yeah Oil Prices rose more than 5 dollars today on the conflict...

 

[.Fenris]

I realize this has the chance of a snowball in a furnace but...

Send the U.S. Marines, send the Royal Marines, send everyone's Marines, it'll be over in an hour.

...In other news, someone wants Gaddafi's head.


#SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi

Al Qaradawi: I am issuing a Fatwa now to kill Gaddafi. To any army soldier, to any man who can pull the trigger & kill this man to do so.
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[Anthraxinsoup]

Which country in the Middle East actually possesses nuclear weapons?
Israel.
Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty?
Israel.
Which country in the Middle East refuses to allow international inspections of its nuclear facilities?
Israel.
Which countries in the Middle East have called for the region to be a nuclear-free zone?
The Arab countries and Iran.

I like to quote Howard Beale here:
I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, "I'm a HUMAN BEING, GODDAMMIT! MY LIFE HAS VALUE" So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!" I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!" Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it:"I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

The whole Middle east and Northern Africa seems to be ablaze with Protests...even in Iraq...I wonder if this might affect the US war there...

 

[Anthraxinsoup]

The whole Middle east and Northern Africa seems to be ablaze with Protests...even in Iraq...I wonder if this might affect the US war there...

"We" are pulling out and that is what "our" official statement still is.

 

[twocows]

The situation in Libya both saddens and excites me. It's sad people are dying, but my hope is that the sacrifices those people made will lead to reform in Libya.

Which country in the Middle East actually possesses nuclear weapons?
Israel.
Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty?
Israel.
Which country in the Middle East refuses to allow international inspections of its nuclear facilities?
Israel.
Which countries in the Middle East have called for the region to be a nuclear-free zone?
The Arab countries and Iran.

I like to quote Howard Beale here:
I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad. You've got to say, "I'm a HUMAN BEING, GODDAMMIT! MY LIFE HAS VALUE" So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!" I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!" Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it:"I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

The irony is that Beale was against the Saudi buyout of UBS until he met with Jensen, and then when he did he no longer said things like this. Network was a pretty good movie, more people should see it.