The Hunger Games REDUX [NIGHT FOUR]

[Paranoia_]

...gdi Ash that scenario was exactly what I was hoping would happen.

Just curious, but why did you want that? I'm probably missing something here but I want to know.

 

[Nakuzami]

but we don't have a santa, we have a gunsmith and a vestmaker, separate roles.

yes, I noticed when I looked back at the role list.

which means there's still another hatchet out there somewhere.

 

[Paranoia_]

I was hoping the mafia would waste another NA on me, that's what I mean. I was lying when I said I'd fire the gun if I got a vest. I ain't touchin' this thing until I'm 100% certain it's real, no sir.

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Alex]

Personally I wouldn't have claimed a vest but thats just me

 

[alisaie]

Idk about lynching klippy over this (yet. Id prefer something more scummy/concrete than vest claiming personally) but it's something to keep note. For all we know the hidden role can be a fool or something so shrug.

 

[Klippy]

Eh. I'm not maf. Just wasn't thinking particularly clearly. A bit ill this weekend. :( I didn't consider it to be anti-town and I hadn't thought far enough ahead to consider hiding it. I just figured I'd claim it.

 

[Alex Kaz]

Maybe he is, for real. This wouldn't be the first time Klippy has pulled this kind of stunt

LOL, that is a possibility. What do you suggest then? Lynch Klippy, maybe? Claiming a vest is unusual at least.

You don't need to claim the vest in order to know that one gun is fake. You will simply know if there isn't another gun claim.

@Goku: It's a bad idea because your vest is essentially useless, had you not claimed, mafia could've targeted you and fail the kill.

This why the claim makes him suss:

A true innocent wouldn't have claimed until they were hit. That is not so hard to understand.

Most of your posts are solely focused on Klippy and trying to paint him scum no matter what. I don't like this at all.

The point in claiming a fake hatchet is to appear innocent. Mafia wouldn't fab one of their own.

You also seem to be fairly certain that mafia wouldn't fab one of their own, when it's a pretty good tactic on day 1 to make someone look better on others' eyes and we've seen it happen again (though I'm not entirely sure if it was on PC), so this feels like you're indirectly defending Bard. I don't know yet if it's scum buddies defending one another or just you buddying Bard, but either case has you as scum.

And while that might seem a bit farfetched, the final reason that seals my vote on you today is the fact that you're supporting abstain. Mafia didn't kill anyone last night and we're given the chance to have the first kill, but you're just throwing that advantage away by letting them draw first blood. I know very well you realize the benefits of lynching and how abstaining is bad, yet you still are set on abstaining and it's hella weird for you.

[Kill] Johnny

i'm like the wind hello!

also i hate to break it to you guys but we actually don't have concrete proof that the hatchet nor the vest are real or fake. we only believe that bard's is fake because of his history of being trigger happy, after all. but we have one role who gives out hatchets, one who gives out vests, and one who give out a fake of either. so unless a third person reveals a hatchet or a vest either of them could be fake or real. klippy's reveal could prove to be suss or it could prove to be useful but right now it's nothing imo.

tho really idc either way 'cause personally i think bard was given a fake hatchet myself but realtalk here i suppose. for all we know klippy could be holding a fake vest and someone else has a real vest.

There's also the chance the hatchetsmith is actually a sane person that wouldn't hand out a gun randomly on n0.

Eh. I'm not maf. Just wasn't thinking particularly clearly. A bit ill this weekend. :( I didn't consider it to be anti-town and I hadn't thought far enough ahead to consider hiding it. I just figured I'd claim it.

This is the exact opposite reaction of what I would expect from scum!Klippy. I would expect a retaliation in the least, so he's looking pretty good in my eyes right now.
Does anyone remember sniper!Klippy in Back to the Basics?

 

[Foxrally]

I can't really judge Klippy for claiming a vest because that's some dumb shit I'd do myself lmao

But again, someone as seasoned as Klips should know better. Like, a lot better, no?

 

[gimmepie]

I don't think you can really use your point against Doof2 as a defence to that claim, Johnny. Ultimately that's still a point that revolves around Klippy.

Personally, I'm not sure I'm ready to lynch any of the three of you yet. I am however townreading Ash and Alex.

 

[Alex Kaz]

(posting on phone cuz pc was down earlier and I'm at work currently, so please bear with me)

@Johnny

Wrong. It's obvious that you either didn't read my last post or you chose to think this. Here's evidence, the colors will refute the respective statements.

That sounds about right. Post. Singular, not plural. Only your last post talks about something other than Klippy, hence why I said most of your posts and not all of them.

To answer the red part: The first two posts you quoted are focused on Klippy, in the last I'm answering questions. It's kind of weird that you'd miss that and would exaggerate like that.

It still talks about Klippy, even though it was a reply. I don't comprehend what you mean by exaggerate. I just said that most of your posts are focused on Klippy and it's true. Whether it was a reply or not isn't really relevant. Talking about Klippy isn't bad in itself; the way you did so rubs me the wrong way, though.

The yellow part: "This isn't an end-all reason" it boggles my mind how you came to the conclusion that I'm trying to paint him scum "no matter what" right after I said that.

This might seem funny, but I'm not really sure what an "end-all" reason means. Now that you've highlighted it, it seems like it means "bitch I ain't listening to your bullshit no more". Anyway, I indeed ignored that part cuz I didn't think it was something that important, just fluffing. which might still be, mind you

Mate... they don't need to actually give themselves the gun, they just need to say they did. Why on earth would they actually fab themselves when they can just say they did?

Yeah that's what I meant, I just derped there cuz I had just woken up lul. They wouldn't fab one of their own, but it's also not mandatory for a fab to use their NA.

We have the maximum number of players alive and no leads because no deaths happened and you think that abstaining is a bad idea? Going for a lynch now is pretty much like RLing on a game with a day start, in other words, a 100% blind lynch. We have the maximum chances of lynching an innocent right now and chances are, that we will lynch an inno. By going for a lynch during the next day phase we increase our chances of actually hitting a mafia and decrease the chances of mislynching.

Whoa wait a second there. How would a n0 death help exactly? It would just be an innocent dead without any prior discussion, therefore we would have nothing to go on off of that. "Maximum players alive" is not a legit argument to abstain, on the contrary it's more of a reason to lynch, since we haven't lost anyone yet, and even if we mislynch we're gonna be down one person and not two like usually. Like I said, the town is given a chance to decide who will be the first one to die, and not start the day off with one less in their ranks.
Sure, the mafia can mislead, but it's definitely better than them picking a target for the first kill and telling you to deal with it.


As for the reads, you can say whatever you want when reading someone lol. Not gonna properly reply to that, as I don't feel the need to.

 

[gimmepie]

I don't see any real reason to assume Doof2 is working with Klippy off of that one post either. One post like that hardly represents collusion.

 

[gimmepie]

Snip

Fox, I just realised we have forgotten to do something very important that tradition dictates.

 

[Abby]

Make out?

 

[Candy]

Oooh we're going to see some Gimmefox action today?

But y'know if you guys lynch each other then if the rest of us abstain you two will be the ones to go. We can't have that now, can we?

I think Klippy is leaning more to the town side from his posts. I mean, he would usually refute a lot more if he were mafia. However we can't be sure about the legitimacy of the vest claim since we aren't sure about Bard's hatchet either. At least for now, if he is town then we have someone who is potentially safe for the time being.

 

[Abby]

[WALK DOWN]14

My age:o

 

[alisaie]

[walk down] 8

Lets do this

 

[Alex Kaz]

[Walk down] 13
My favourite number.

Btw, I have taken that post of Bidoof's into account and I will keep an eye on him, I just had more against you Johnny than against doof so I didn't mention it.

 

[Alex Kaz]

I am not taking path 1. Never again will I pick that number. Instead, let's [Walk Down] 15.

So you usually pick the first number, and now you picked the last. An extremist, huh?

Are you the bomb, Bard?

 

[Alex]

[Walk down] Path 4. Maybe it will lead to path 20 ayy

 

[Mana1]

Should I?...

[Walk Down] 1