Cerberus87

Lots of L-names there, LOL. :P I like most of those, too, myself.

Do you wish any of them got more screentime in the games? GF seems to have something against developing E4 members, for whatever reason. The deliberate exclusion of them from the PWT was just cold and then you combine that with the anime (not GF, I know) ignoring them 90% of the time. (Lorelei, Lance, and Lucian were among the lucky few to get any screentime on the show. Poor Karen, not so much.)

And, then, you have Origins (supposedly, the "good" adaptation) characterizing them even less than the games did, making them glorified background extras. (Granted, even most of the Gym Leaders got this treatment in Origins, too, but at least, they get plenty of screentime elsewhere.)

Well, I know you love Fire and Dark types, and you think DPP are the best games ever. (Even though they were rather lacking in both of those types, especially the former.) Houndoom is your all-time favorite Pokémon. You also like RB, but not Yellow, and dislike the Hoenn games. And, you hate Fairy types. Anything else? :P

Who are your favorite trainers (aka. Gym Leaders, E4 Members, and Champions), and why do you like them?

Well, at least, most of the others got to appear in the DS era with better AI and better teams. :(


You don't tend to play games you hate more than once. ;) Hopefully, Red++ will be a better experience for you. You can also download that Gen 2 graphics patch if you just want to play RB with nicer sprites.

Fire being your favorite type doesn't magically make it good in RBY. :P

What's the point of this debate, anyways? If you want me to admit that Lorelei sucks as a trainer and deserved to be dumped for the Psychic Clown (and mostly erased from Pokémon history), then go ahead. :(

You only fought her in RB. She had better movesets in your "favorite" game, Yellow. :P

You also forget that Fire wasn't a good type back in Gen 1. Most people didn't even bother with the type, and the most commonly-used one, Charizard, was, itself, weak to Ice. Most Rock types were also weak to Ice, for that matter.

Every monotype team has its weaknesses, but some are worse than others. At least, Lorelei wasn't 100% weak to the game's most powerful type like the two ahead of her. Or, had a buttload of frail/4x weak Pokémon like Dragon Boy.

Of course, if Gen 1 was to get another remake, then sadly, Lorelei probably would be the weak link in the E4, as Fighting/Ghost/Dragon received a ton of buffs over the Gens, while Ice was only nerfed, if anything. Even in FRLG, she felt like much more of a punching bag than she was in RB and (especially) Yellow. :(

Only in FRLG. The split Special stat, revised type chart, and nerfed Blizzard weakened her Pokémon a lot. The fact that they were knocked down two levels didn't help, either. Rather hilariously, her rematch team may have actually been a step down from her first one, because Piloswine is 1000x weaker than Slowbro. (Too bad Mamoswine and the P/S Split didn't exist yet.) No wonder her character has been forgotten...

That's pretty much the story of every single Ice specialist, save for Lorelei in RBY (the lone Gen where Ice didn't suck). How sad was it that Candice was actually harder in DP simply because she had a Medicham.

The fact that GF had Wulfric say that indicates that they really do realize how weak Ice is as a type, which makes it all the more obvious that they see the type as fundamentally broken beyond repair. So, why do they continue to make Ice types so rare/late-game or have every Ice specialist be either a late Gym Leader or an E4 Member? Wulfric was supposed to be the hardest Gym Leader of his region, yet because he was Ice type, he was anything but.

Ouch... If even Mamoswine can't stay in OU anymore, then what Ice type can? I guess this leaves the 700 BST Box Legendary as the only Ice type left in OU, which says a lot about the type's strength.

Ice seems to be a type that GF just wants to push under the rug and forget about nowadays. They obviously knew that it wasn't strong enough to keep Dragon in check, yet they just created a brand new type to deal with Dragon instead of even trying to fix Ice. Ice also has fewer Mega Evolutions than any other type, despite its Pokémon probably needing the boost more than any other. And, aside from Freeze Dry (which isn't all that impressive of a move), the type didn't really get any new tools, period. If anything, it was only further nerfed, with Snow Warning no longer being permanent and Fairies making Steel types and Bullet Punch even more common.

And, no, the type doesn't have much use in Story Mode, either, however unimportant the single-player has become. Ice types are still extremely rare and mostly in far-flung areas in the late game, by then which you'll probably have a strong Water type with an Ice attack. And, if STAB SE on Dragons is what you want, Fairy gives you a second, more viable option, and even Fairies are usually more common and have better movepools than most Ice types. If Gen 1 gets another remake, why bother wasting time trying to raise up an Articuno or Dewgong for Lance when Clefable or even that traded Mr. Mime from earlier in the game will get the job done better?

Maybe, Ice will one day get its time in the limelight like Bug did in Gen 5, but alas, that's a very long time from now.

ahah, i love lolita fashion but i don't own anything in that style. not sure if i'd even wear something like that...if there's one thing that annoys me, it's when people stare at me (that is, when i notice it) and i'm sure that'd happen a lot if i dressed in huge, frilly dresses. :pink_tongue:

I'll happily take the 90s over today. The US had a booming economy and a national surplus, and our biggest worry was where the President was putting his dick. Our culture, in general, wasn't as openly conservative. ("Teabagging" still referred to a gay sex act, not a bunch of racist yahoos with misspelled signs.)


Damn paysites, always caring more about money than the art. >:(


Ah, yes, the first of many copyright wars between Old and New Media. Even if they won the battle against Napster, though, they're ultimately losing the larger battle. File sharing only increased in the years since Napster, and it's never going away, no matter what. Old Media's time is up.

hah, sounds tasty! x3

not that much, no! my wardrobe is quite varied...i have a lot of black though, it just suits me the best. not that i'm gothic or anything, aha. in the summer i wear lots of pastel colors. :3

That was Microsoft's intention with Windows 8. They saw how Apple and Google were making big bucks off of the mobile market, and they wanted a piece of that, too. Problem is that, even by mobile standards, Windows 8 is awful compared to iOS and Android, so mobile users continued to shun Microsoft, and all Microsoft ended up doing was alienating their biggest userbase, desktop/laptop users. Windows 8 was such a colossal flop that they had no choice but to go back to the traditional Windows layout with Windows 10 (but with the caveat that their damn apps be stuffed into the Start menu).

I have an iPhone, and it works quite well for me, but it's not and never will be a replacement for my laptop.


There's still Natures to worry about, though. Even if you could neatly add EVs into all of the appropriate stats with ease, if a Pokémon has the "wrong" Nature (and its statistically more likely to than not), then it's still no good.


Movie remakes are rarely any good, alas. They're usually made for the sole purpose of cashing in on nostalgia, so quality of scriptwriting is rarely a top priority. The mid 2000s were particularly bad for this.


I don't entirely hate the new. What I hate are blatant, continuity-breaking retcons. I grew up knowing that Mew was the "Ancestor of All Pokémon," so, no, I really don't appreciate being told years down the road that what I had seen and read over and over again was wrong and that the title belonged to this Deformed Llama, instead. Either you get continuity right, or you don't bother with the storytelling at all. Otherwise, you're insulting the people who actually care about these things.

Now, you're just being arrogant. (Sorry!) You can't make somebody accept and like something if they don't want to, that's just a cold, hard fact.

There are things from the later games that I do like, but if pressed, I will happily and gladly take 2001 Pokémon over 2015 Pokémon any day:

- Smogon didn't exist
- Competitive battling was a tiny, easy-to-ignore niche, at the most
- Natures and the modern IV/EV system didn't exist
- Annoying, shitty Abilities like Poison Point and Static didn't exist
- Psychic and Ice types weren't completely worthless
- Dragon types weren't broken and overpowered
- There weren't any Dragon Legendaries
- Salamence, Garchomp, and Haxorus didn't exist
- The games weren't locked into a repetitive formula
- Kanto and Johto were still the center of attention instead of completely forgotten
- The stories, while extremely barebones, were still realistic, relatable and let others fill in the blanks instead of haphazardly attempting mythology and worldbuilding
- The Deformed Llama didn't exist
- Cynthia didn't exist
- Steven didn't exist
- Kris still existed
- Red still had black hair, and Blue still had brown hair
- Sabrina and Clair still looked like strong, powerful women and not fanservicey bimbos
- Lance still looked like a vibrant, sexy young man and not a tired, crusty 50 year old
- People still knew who Lorelei and Agatha were
- Giovanni's redemption at the end of RBY hadn't been insultingly retconned (and he wasn't wearing a damn fedora)
- Jessie and James still existed in the games

...Which is why ROM hacks are awesome. I can have all of the good things about the later games without any of the bad stuff. Perfect! :P

Based your your comments about both Pokémon and Windows, you're obviously the kind of person who always embraces the new, no matter what. I don't think we'll ever see eye-to-eye on that.

I'd have a second look at Trapinch's OR/AS level-up move pool if I were you

Vibrava and Flygon now have Earthquake as a level-up move.

Well, many consider BW to have a good story, and unlike DPP and XY, those games had a more realistic, character-driven story that wasn't centered around mythology and worldbuilding.

And, while the stories of the first two Gens were extremely barebones and barely existent, what was there was fairly realistic and had real life parallels. Players were left to fill in the blanks themselves, which isn't a bad thing at all.

Because, Mew forbid (Ha!) fans draw their own conclusions from the text and try to make sense of an otherwise sloppy, inconsistent, and poorly-written canon. We must blindly follow Word of God and accept bad writing, no matter what. :rolleyes2:

Mythology is a part of religion, not science.


That also makes sense. Raikou and Jolteon are both fast, frail Special Attackers with minimal movepools, Entei and Flareon are both slow Physical Attackers with Special-oriented movepools, and Suicune and Vaporeon are both slow, bulky Special-oriented Water types that can learn Ice moves naturally despite not being part Ice. The Hidden Abilities of the Dogs also happen to be the main Abilities of the Eeveelutions (Water Absorb/Volt Absorb/Flash Fire).


Which is a sign of poor storytelling and really shouldn't be defended. GF really needs to stop trying to worldbuild, because it's obvious that they aren't very good at it.

I'm not clicking that link. I completely hate the idea of god Pokémon and religion being shoved into these games, and no amount of persuasion will convince me otherwise. Fuck the Deformed Llama. I don't have to acknowledge it if I don't want to, because I refuse to accept bad storytelling.

One reason why BW's story was good was because it was a smaller-scale, character driven plot that had real world parallels. It didn't haphazardly attempt worldbuilding and mythology like DPP and XY. (And, to a lesser extent, RSE.)


Which is why the idea of stronger Pokémon evolving from Mew isn't too farfetched.

(Speaking of rumors, there's another going around that suggests that Mewtwo was created by splicing Mew's DNA with that of an Alakazam. Like Alakazam, Mewtwo excels in Sp. Attack and Speed while having weaker Defenses, and it's also extremely intelligent and upright-standing. Mewtwo also has a noticeably shallower movepool than Mew.)

Here's the Ditto theory. It makes a tone of sense, if you ask me.

Well, I don't, at least, not the epic, myth-heavy variety. Again, the introduction of god Pokémon was a colossal mistake.


Mewtwo is also stronger than Mew, and it's its clone.

Mew can use the signature moves of Legendaries via Transform and Metronome, and it happens to be the only Pokémon who can learn both naturally. (Plus, there's also the Sketch glitch from Gen 2.) Sure, this is also (sort of) true for other Pokémon like Ditto and Clefairy, but, well, Ditto is widely believed to be a failed clone of Mew (remember that Mewtwo was only the first successful clone, not the first ever), and Clefairy, itself, evolved from Mew.

You're fine with it because Gen 4 is your favorite Gen ever and think it is superior to all that became before or after. :P

(You might also be religious in RL, although I can't prove anything.)

Explain about Lugia and Ho-Oh.