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exactly, it's the same thing with emo. there's such a negative stigma attached to it now that Black Veil Brides and Fall Out Boy are now the "emo" poster boys ;____;
I had to try really hard to make it seem like I wasn't attacking their ♥♥♥♥in opinion or something.... I wanted so badly to post like "I hate all that stuff and it's pretty much just fake pop 'hardcore'" but I figured that wouldn't go over well hahaha