Yeah, not to mention they actually DID prove to be threats a few times during those sagas.
Also agreed there. And even if they WERE to be retained, it's not like they needed to keep their Rocket memberships. Just have them quit Team Rocket and try to pursue Ash and Co. while acting as mercenaries for the current regional villain teams. Or just go with suspiciously similar substitutes as well, even giving them reasons for going after Pikachu that directly tied in to the villains' goals (Team Magma and Team Aqua, for example, could express interest in Pikachu for the fact that it possessed genomes allowing it to bond with the orbs used to summon Groudon/Kyogre, which actually could neatly foreshadow the climax where Pikachu was possessed by the Red Orb).
Yeah, no kidding. Overall it was a horrible matchup. May, of all people, should not be afraid of Pokémon, considering she literally grew up with them due to her dad being a gym leader. And I've seen mentor-relationships that were a lot more plausibly done, to be honest, at least enough to avoid making them looking bad for no real reason.
Yeah. I watched Pokémon since I was in elementary school, and while I did look up to Ash, I must admit I don't EVER recall inserting myself into him, and there were actually a few instances where I ultimately agreed with Misty in her criticisms. Besides, I guess it rubs me off the wrong way since with Beauty and the Beast when someone gets no criticism whatsoever, not even when it's necessary (I can understand it if people dislike unfair criticism, where there's no merit to criticizing other than for the sake of criticism to demonize someone, but when it's an actual flaw that needs to be pointed out, I think it does require stating).
Yeah, no kidding. I don't have any problem with Generation 4 myself, but I do think that if you're going to make a movie actually honoring an anniversary for a long-standing franchise, you might as well, you know, actually make it relevant to the actual plot and not include stuff that isn't even related to the anniversary directly. I'd cry foul if they used Generation III, V, VI, or even VII Pokémon as marketing. I'd tolerate Gen II being marketed since, well, Ho-Oh did debut in the first episode and clearly wasn't Gen I.
Quite frankly, all I can say is I'm not feeling optimistic about this upcoming movie. They still haven't even teased Gen 8 yet (and believe me, if they were going to do Generation 8, they would have started hinting at it by now, like how Metroid Prime 4 got teased at this year's E3). If Movie 21 ends up being a massive bomb, that only reinforces my view that M20 being released on the anime's anniversary is the only reason why it succeeded.
Yeah, agreed, and it also doesn't help that I'm not even that fond of SM as it is anyways, and Misty and Brock's return is the only reason I have even a slight interest in it right now. That and maybe Lillie. They've pretty much rushed through Alola right now, got past the climax (honestly, I haven't seen a region go by THIS quickly since Kanto), and since they didn't even HINT at a Gen 8 right now, I'd even wager that Alola might end next year. I just hope the writers bring Misty and Brock into Alola before they inevitably stop with Alola. At least with the CBS app, I can rewatch episodes of various shows I watched that I either missed or otherwise missed some sound on thanks to my sound system going mute at the worst possible moments that forces me to "reset" by turning the TV on and off.
Also agreed there. And even if they WERE to be retained, it's not like they needed to keep their Rocket memberships. Just have them quit Team Rocket and try to pursue Ash and Co. while acting as mercenaries for the current regional villain teams. Or just go with suspiciously similar substitutes as well, even giving them reasons for going after Pikachu that directly tied in to the villains' goals (Team Magma and Team Aqua, for example, could express interest in Pikachu for the fact that it possessed genomes allowing it to bond with the orbs used to summon Groudon/Kyogre, which actually could neatly foreshadow the climax where Pikachu was possessed by the Red Orb).
Yeah, no kidding. Overall it was a horrible matchup. May, of all people, should not be afraid of Pokémon, considering she literally grew up with them due to her dad being a gym leader. And I've seen mentor-relationships that were a lot more plausibly done, to be honest, at least enough to avoid making them looking bad for no real reason.
Yeah. I watched Pokémon since I was in elementary school, and while I did look up to Ash, I must admit I don't EVER recall inserting myself into him, and there were actually a few instances where I ultimately agreed with Misty in her criticisms. Besides, I guess it rubs me off the wrong way since with Beauty and the Beast when someone gets no criticism whatsoever, not even when it's necessary (I can understand it if people dislike unfair criticism, where there's no merit to criticizing other than for the sake of criticism to demonize someone, but when it's an actual flaw that needs to be pointed out, I think it does require stating).
Yeah, no kidding. I don't have any problem with Generation 4 myself, but I do think that if you're going to make a movie actually honoring an anniversary for a long-standing franchise, you might as well, you know, actually make it relevant to the actual plot and not include stuff that isn't even related to the anniversary directly. I'd cry foul if they used Generation III, V, VI, or even VII Pokémon as marketing. I'd tolerate Gen II being marketed since, well, Ho-Oh did debut in the first episode and clearly wasn't Gen I.
Quite frankly, all I can say is I'm not feeling optimistic about this upcoming movie. They still haven't even teased Gen 8 yet (and believe me, if they were going to do Generation 8, they would have started hinting at it by now, like how Metroid Prime 4 got teased at this year's E3). If Movie 21 ends up being a massive bomb, that only reinforces my view that M20 being released on the anime's anniversary is the only reason why it succeeded.
Yeah, agreed, and it also doesn't help that I'm not even that fond of SM as it is anyways, and Misty and Brock's return is the only reason I have even a slight interest in it right now. That and maybe Lillie. They've pretty much rushed through Alola right now, got past the climax (honestly, I haven't seen a region go by THIS quickly since Kanto), and since they didn't even HINT at a Gen 8 right now, I'd even wager that Alola might end next year. I just hope the writers bring Misty and Brock into Alola before they inevitably stop with Alola. At least with the CBS app, I can rewatch episodes of various shows I watched that I either missed or otherwise missed some sound on thanks to my sound system going mute at the worst possible moments that forces me to "reset" by turning the TV on and off.