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The Wolf Among Us Mafia [Dawn Of The Ninth Day][GAME OVER!]

Btw, havent seen you that much in the chat, or maybe your messages werent as weird as some of the other ones ;)

How have you been doing lately?
 
Okay, now question to Alex: Who would you rather lynch?

The way I see it, Bac picked someone out of the crowd that was mass voting you and called him scum. You and Desi, underlings who win with the mafia, went all out and supported this. And now jappo jumped in this as well, strengthening my initial suspicions.
Admittedly, Lycan hasn't defended his case sufficiently, and is making me doubt my decision, but still this suspicion out of the blue is striking me as scummy.
So now I'm having second thoughts. I've already agreed with you into lynching Lycan since you're so persistent, and if he flips inno I'll vote for either Bac or jappo. If he flips scum then I'll follow your calls.
 
The way I see it, Bac picked someone out of the crowd that was mass voting you and called him scum. You and Desi, underlings who win with the mafia, went all out and supported this. And now jappo jumped in this as well, strengthening my initial suspicions.
Admittedly, Lycan hasn't defended his case sufficiently, and is making me doubt my decision, but still this suspicion out of the blue is striking me as scummy.
So now I'm having second thoughts. I've already agreed with you into lynching Lycan since you're so persistent, and if he flips inno I'll vote for either Bac or jappo. If he flips scum then I'll follow your calls.

I only started talking against you when you started accusing me. But I am curious about some of the other opinions.
But I am curious about what the others might think. We can go for a YesNoYesnoYesNo, but thats not going anywhere.
Be sure to check out my big post, and if I said something wrong, be sure to message me in this thread. My biggest reason for suspecting you is the behavior you have shown, wich is really similar to maffia tactics used in the IRL game.
 
I only started talking against you when you started accusing me. But I am curious about some of the other opinions.
But I am curious about what the others might think. We can go for a YesNoYesnoYesNo, but thats not going anywhere.
Be sure to check out my big post, and if I said something wrong, be sure to message me in this thread. My biggest reason for suspecting you is the behavior you have shown, wich is really similar to maffia tactics used in the IRL game.

I accused you for the ironic post on Caps, because I saw it as a potential way to guilt trip him into role revealing (he gladly did later tho lol).
Apparently I was the only one to realize that with the cop unable to out his investigations we need to actively hunt for leads. My way of doing so is direct confrontation. Because when I openly accuse someone of being scum, their reaction is what gives me a lead on what they may be. I left you alone for some time, but later you started being all happy and communicating, while initially you were silent and unhelpful. And your attitude changed after I accused you. I do not know how you play, but a change of attitude is strange, to say the least.

Now, the weird thing is that Johnny knows I do that, but he ignored it. I intentionally pick on people for future reference and hell I even did it in a game he GMed, where I was the cop. Him disregarding that is the reason I think he decided to side with the mafia and actively help them out. And on that mindset, I'm reading Lycan as town.
 
I accused you for the ironic post on Caps, because I saw it as a potential way to guilt trip him into role revealing (he gladly did later tho lol).
Apparently I was the only one to realize that with the cop unable to out his investigations we need to actively hunt for leads. My way of doing so is direct confrontation. Because when I openly accuse someone of being scum, their reaction is what gives me a lead on what they may be. I left you alone for some time, but later you started being all happy and communicating, while initially you were silent and unhelpful. And your attitude changed after I accused you. I do not know how you play, but a change of attitude is strange, to say the least.

Now, the weird thing is that Johnny knows I do that, but he ignored it. I intentionally pick on people for future reference and hell I even did it in a game he GMed, where I was the cop. Him disregarding that is the reason I think he decided to side with the mafia and actively help them out. And on that mindset, I'm reading Lycan as town.

I do find it rather easy to just pass acting rather scummy accusing everyone as "my way of investigating''. It makes you 'imune' for feedback/comments.

If no one is commenting you about that, you are just accusing everyone.
If someone comments you about it, you can just say "I was acting scummy (acusing everyone) because I want to know if they are scummy.

Do you get what I am saying? I dont say I completely dissagree, but I do find it a bit easy to hide behind 'my way of investigating'.

Maybe other people can shine some light on it, cause I dont feel like my opinion of you is changing with these last posts.

About my playstyle:
The way I play is normally to be active, and leave behind as much information as possible before I get killed/lynched. If I am a good guy, I use that tactic to leave some good starting points for my fellow townies. If I am bad, I use it to spread a bit of missinformation in the mix.
I am someone who uses tactic 2 on my big post.

The reason why I am starting to message more lately is because I will have a bit more time now to play. Last week was really hectic for me, with typing for work throught the evening like I am still a student. ;)

Most important part of our conversation should be to stay open to each other. So if you feel like im lying or if I misinterpreted something, be sure to message me. theoretically, we could still be both innocent, and the maffia is laughing its ass of of us attacking each other.
 
Spoiler:
Thank you for this btw, looking forward to your updated reads later

About Johnny - initially on D1 I had him as a decent town-lean because of what he said about lynches (that we should avoid doing NL and make actual lynches happen after D1). It was a townie suggestion because 1) continuous no-lynching would be fairly lazy play on town's part and 2) continuous no-lynching would essentially put the fate of the town in the hands of the jailer, which might not be bad if there was good faith in the jailer's judgement, but there's no guarantee that the jailer would make the right choices either (and it also deprives town of actual info that can be gained from pushing a normal lynch). It just seemed like Johnny was prepared to make things happen later by pushing actual lynches, which is pretty townie. As for his stance on the mirror, I don't think that's particularly indicative of alignment either way, however I also feel like mafia wouldn't draw attention to themselves like that and would be able to blend in much easier by following the crowd on the mirror question just to avoid suspicion, even if it meant possibly outing a teammate.

As for Johnny right now, him claiming an Underling role makes things a little weird because I feel like dealing with claimed Underlings has been pretty awkward so far. I believed his claim at the time because I didn't think the reasons/"cases" against him were all that good. I do still need to read through D3 again keeping Johnny's claim in mind though.
jd, where's those reads?
Alex can you clarify your position on Kendy for me?
 
Phone posting sorry in advance for typos

Johnny I gave my thoughts on Alex check pg 23 again. Still waffling on Lycan

Suspicious of kendy, golgari, juno mainly right now, I'll explain more when I'm not on phone later


Can I get thoughts on golgari and Juno though from everyone now? Feels like we're talking about the same people over and over would be nice to see thoughts on others now
 
Alright, we can talk about different people. If you want my opinion about a specific person, I can go throught that tomorow.

This is the current list of all the people in the game:
Nakuzami
Elektra Heart
Klippy
Golgari
Omicron
Merlin
jdthebud
kaneki!!!
Rowlet
Desinishon
Etherion
alexkaz61
CatmanDaTrainer
Absol used bite!
Zehn
NightKrow
JohnnyMustang
Mana
Juno
TheCapsFan
Superjolt
jappo
EosTheDawn
Hibikaze
mew_nani
kendypls
Lycanthropy

Lets talk about someone who hasnt been active that much. How about EosTheDawn? Havent seen a lot of his posts.

I do agree on Golgari and Juno, didnt even know they were in the game untill now :P

Havent formed an opinion about Merlin yet, will check some of her posts tommorow.

Rember you guys, those of us who are posting arent also in the clear! So if you find something weird about me, Johny, Superjolt or whoever (last 3 posts), be sure to message it. I rather have people bringing arguments on the table instead of silence.
 
My goodness guys, calm down! Do you know how long I had to scroll down through my emails to get to the latest post?!
 
So I just read through like ~5 pages and am now caught up. First of all I'd like to apologize for some inactivity I'm in the midst of exams and end-of-school projects that teachers drop randomly in the last week.

Anyways, I have scumreads on Lycan and Alex at the moment, Lycan really hasn't provided a defense other than stating the possibility that the underlings are working with the mafia, which definitely could be true but I feel like the people that have claimed underlings are acting pretty town right now. I'm saying that hoping I didn't miss anything since I skimmed over a couple of posts. I wouldn't necessarily consider Alex's suspicious (i guess thats what you'd call them?) as random but rather they seem like they don't have a good foundation to them. It seems like somewhat weak reasoning like he's trying to push a lynch onto someone without much hard evidence. It also seems like his posts were a lot more townlooking at the beginning of the game and he's having trouble keeping himself composed.

I think that's all I really have to say unless someone has a question? I can't think of anything else that is standing out to me right now.
 
Right now, Lycan has been defended by three people: Alex, Omi and Naku. Omi revealed himself and explained why he defended Lycan, but he proved that he's okay with lynching Lycan to see if I'm right.

Fun fact: those were the three people trying to discredit me. Lycan is mafia, confirmed by me and Desinishon. There's no point going over this again, the only people who don't want Lycan lynched are mafia, pure and simple.
Again, I have not defended Lycan once, lol. The closest I did to that was when I told Bac not to immediately suss people who seemed to be defending Lycan until he actually flipped as maf.

And then in that same post, and every other post pertaining to Lycan, I've agreed on potentially lynching him.

People who found me suspicious:

Nakuzami
Also, I've never been suss on you. I fully believe your claim. You seem to be mistaking me pointing out your flawed logic as FOSing you. Sorry to break it to you dear, but those aren't quite the same thing.

I mean, yeah, I'm 100% mafia. Still doesn't give any merit to a single word you've said, sadly. Whoops, try again later.
 
Holy crap guys
I'm not inactive, you guys are overactive ;(

But that said, I had a really crazy week so I should have said something earlier about not really being able to contribute as much as I'd want to until the weekend. Cut the students some slack, this is a rough time for us, lol.

First of all, I think we should all apologize to Kiyo for making his welcome back party all about Lycan. :P Anyway, the thing that stands out to me most about Lycan right now is that he still hasn't RR'd - I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, but even when backed into a corner he won't claim a role, which doesn't look good for him. Is it possible he has a ribbon that prevents him from claiming or something? Only thing I can think of that would explain why he insists there's someone else who can prove he's inno but won't do it himself. Since he's going to be lynched soon, if he's town he should claim and if he's mafia he would at least try to make up something too, right? Seems a little off that the best he can come up with is "someone else can prove me inno", almost makes me feel like he is being set up.

People don't seem to take too kindly to players who "defend" Lycan though, so I'll say that I'm okay with lynching him tomorrow, especially since you guys seem really confident about this, but that part just seems a little weird to me and I wanted to look at things from both sides instead of just following the crowd. I mean, if I were put on the spot and about to die, I'd claim anything for a shot to stay alive, unless I literally can't.

But I dunno, to each their own? Bard rolled over pretty quick and just died when he was put on the spot, so I guess some people don't fight it, lol.

And lastly,
Naku is so fashionable and good looking. Naku is as pretty as he is smart. Naku is very good at playing this game.

Naku <3 <3 <3 <3
this is a super diksukking post elderwood, are you even trying
 
You say that but the inevitable truth is that we're gonna lynch Lycan, he will turn out as mafia and my words will get all the merit :P

Wrong!

Besides, the phase post will be up in a few minutes. Things are about to get rather juicy. c;
 
You guys are going to love when Lycan get lynched and flipped as mafia and role.......

And I don't know who said that mafia are trying to play or tweaking info .......that's not the case.
 
Oh dearies, you're in for a rude awakening.

Except for you, Faith. Rest in peace. xoxoxo
 
CSS by Nakuzami
Day Four
"I'm gonna cut you down to size right here, ya ****ing ****!"

The Woodsman, ax in hand, charged at the woman on the receiving end of his insults. She turned to him, still recovering from the annoyance that Georgie had failed to finish off him off in the first place. She threw her arm out, the blade of the ax embedding itself in her flesh. The Woodsman immediately wrenched it free and brought it down over her head.

Bloody Mary didn't appreciate having her head split open. She grabbed the ax handle, pulled the weapon from her skull, and tossed it aside.

"You really should not have done that."

As anger caught hold of her, her transformation began.

Realizing the direction that this situation had taken, the Woodsman retrieved his ax and fled the scene.

-------

The Crooked Crew had assembled outside of The Trip Trap. It was time to finally put an end to one of their earlier targets. Too bad for him, he had not yet opened his present from The Woodsman's party. That vest might have been able to save his life.

As Bloody Mary reunited with the group, a new blood lust consuming her, the only one still missing was Georgie. He was off having a talk with one of his little whores at the moment.

Mary pounded on the door, just as she had done the other night. This time someone answered.

The instant Grendel's face appeared in the doorway, the monstrous woman's hand wrapped itself around his neck.

"You won't be getting away from us this time."

-------

Back at the Pudding and Pie, Faith was feeling a twinge of regret at having run her mouth so much recently.

"You think you can just go around spilling our secrets, eh? Trying to found ways around this pretty little fabric on your neck? Well I've got news for you, sweetie."

Faith wasn't going to see daylight again. And when her husband found out, he'd just be another corpse added to the body count.

Too bad Georgie hadn't been paying enough attention. His gift from the Woodsman came with a witness attached, and now all of Fabletown would know what he'd done.

If that wasn't bad enough, not long after Vivian returned, she opened her own present. Who would have thought that the number forty-two, "shini," would be such a poor choice.

An explosion rocked the Pudding and Pie, and suddenly all the ribbons in town lost their power.

Dee and Dum had been outside, speaking with Hans. Maybe they should have left him inside to protect his mistress.

They fled the scene before anyone showed up.

-------

Over at the Lucky Pawn, Bigby was preoccupied and feeling a little wolfish. After that gun had backfired, he found himself feeling quite annoyed.

He forced Jersey up against the wall. He was through speaking with the man, and now his temper seemed to be getting the best of him. He had come following a lead about one of Jersey's associates, and had ended up getting a bit distracted in the meantime.

With his anger flaring, his bestial features were becoming more prominent. He bared his fangs and plunged them deep into Jersey's throat.

Jack ran out of the shop, terror clutching at him as Jersey bled out on the floor.

-------

Back in his home, Beast was truly feeling the effects of his wife's death. Tonight he had stayed inside, not taking a life to continue his rage. He had no way of knowing that his wife's murderer was about to be revealed to the whole town.

As sorrow consumed him, he placed a hand over his heart. With his last bit of strength, he let out his claws and plunged them into his chest, tearing out his own heart.

------
Etherion has died, he was Jersey!

Desinishon has died, he was Faith!

EosTheDawn has died, he was Prince Lawrence!

Golgari has died, he was Vivian!

Absol Used Bite! has died, she was Beast!

Kaneki!!! has been revealed to be Toad Jr!

Nakuzami has been revealed to be Bloody Mary!

Klippy has been revealed to be Georgie!

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Cast List
Nimsy as the Adversary
Syndrome as the Farm

Nakuzami as Bloody Mary
Elektra Heart as ???
Klippy as Georgie Pordgie
Omicron as ???
Merlin as ???
jdthebud as ???
kaneki!!! as Toad Jr.
Etherion as ???
alexkaz61 as ???
CatmanDaTrainer as ???
Zehn as ???
NightKrow as ???
JohnnyMustang as ???
Juno as ???
TheCapsFan as ???
Superjolt as ???
jappo as ???
Hibikaze as ???
kendypls as ???
Lycanthropy as ???
Collector Elwood as The Woodsman
Golgari as Vivian
Rowlet as Grendel
Desinishon as Faith
EosTheDawn as Prince Lawrence
Absol used bite! as Beast
Mana as Tiny Tim
mew_nani as Doctor Swineheart
Davepetasprite^2 as Beauty
Bardothren as The Crooked Man
gimmepie as Bluebeard
aeternum as Bufkin

 
jd, where's those reads?
Sorry, I didn't get the chance to post them last night and was busy for most of today. Here's a list of all the players who haven't role revealed (and some who have), and my current reads on each of them.

Town:
Omicron - Revealed as Flycatcher (and no CC as of yet), which means he overhears what Dee and Dum say. Since he can't say anything about what he hears until they die, his information could be useful later in the game, but for now is basically a vanilla town/miller.
Merlin - I kept him on this list because I wanted to remind everyone that he revealed as Colin on D1.
jappo - 1st time player, but I really like his reasoning and that he's laying out his thoughts on how players might play if they are mafia. Though it can be dangerous to confine scum reads to players that might fit preconceived notions about that. Solid town read here.
kendypls - My town read on him from earlier still hasn't changed.

Slight Town:
Nakuzami - Though he hasn't really been contributing much for reads on players, he has been helping with game mechanics and understanding, which looks good. Also voted for Lycan yesterday rather than hiding along with the no-lynch, which I also like.
Elektra Heart - I agree that her aggressiveness towards Lycan, coupled with her "hunches", seems like the actions of an Underling.
Klippy - Someone mentioned that his confusion over how the ribbons worked (he said that he thought they silenced the players completely) seemed like a town tell, but I feel like Klippy is not usually one to get confused over game mechanics that are explained pretty clearly in the OP, so it could have been a calculated statement. Though I do agree that this particular game does have a lot of moving parts so it's very possible he was genuinely confused. Right now I'm still leaning town on him but it's only slight.
NightKrow - She's been posting reads, which I like. Slight town lean here.
Superjolt - This guy has been acting like he normally does when he's town. He's usually not as active with his wallposts when he's mafia. However his read on alex being town is interesting. That coupled with Kiyo's accusation that he is scum makes me wonder about him - he hasn't addressed that accusation either.

Null:
Golgari - After the recent post by Golgari I feel a bit better about him. Though it's interesting to me that he's the one who suggested that Nani RR.
kaneki!!! - Hasn't contributed anything at all, so either he's mafia and trying to lay low or he's just trying to survive longer than he normally does. It's hard to tell right now.
Etherion - hasn't contributed much other than trying to get us all to eat baguettes :P
CatmanDaTrainer - Hinted at having some info when voting for Johnny, but didn't reveal it. Not really sure what to make of that.
EosTheDawn - Has posted just once since the game began. Who knows?
Juno - Her main contribution was to vote Johnny before he RR'd. Been pretty quiet aside from that. Seems to be lurking a bit, which is slightly scummy, but not enough to vote for her if I had to.
Hibikaze - "what up?" seems to be his favorite phrase. Other then that, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Slight Scum:
Absol used bite! - Seems to be laying low, but she was rather eager to No-Lynch yesterday (prior to the Nani wagon getting started), then she suggested that Bard could have bussed Nani. She's one of my scumreads right now, but there isn't much to back it up.

Scum:
alexkaz61 - Alex does like to confront people directly, but his logic for this game has been very loose, which is a scumtell to me.
Lycanthropy - Not much else I can say about Lycan that has already been covered.


Looking back at this list, it's clear to me that whoever the mafia are, they mostly seem to be blending in well so far. I really encourage those who haven't been very active so far to start contributing so it's easier to read you. If you are town, this will only be a good thing. So get posting, people!

Edit: OMFG Totally NINJA'd to hell and back. Looks like quite a bit of this reads list, while kind of valuable as a reference, is meaningless...I'll have to address these reads later lol.
 
oooo jd sweetie, you can alter those reads a bit now.

Welcome to my new form, bitches!
 
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