[NU] Counter that 'mon!

Shiftry @Life Orb
Adamant nature
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
~ Swords Dance
~ Sucker Punch
~ Seed Bomb
~ Nature Power

252+ Atk Life Orb Shiftry Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Hypno: 416-494 (111.22 - 132.08%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Unless Hypno wants to die, it's only options are to switch or use Nasty Plot/Protect. Even if it doesn't switch out, Shiftry's other moves are 2HKO at best.

Zeffy said:

Shiftry @Life Orb
Adamant nature
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
~ Swords Dance
~ Sucker Punch
~ Seed Bomb
~ Nature Power

252+ Atk Life Orb Shiftry Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Hypno: 416-494 (111.22 - 132.08%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Unless Hypno wants to die, it's only options are to switch or use Nasty Plot/Protect. Even if it doesn't switch out, Shiftry's other moves are 2HKO at best.

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Braviary @ Leftovers
Trait: Defiant
252 HP / 192 SpD / 64 Spe
Careful
- Brave Bird
- Bulk Up
- Substitute
- Roost

Seed Bomb only does 24 - 29% so shouldn't break Braviary's Subsitute (nor hurt it much when coming in) and even so it can roost the damage, as Shifty will likely expect it to attack outright and Sucker Punch it. At that time it can Subsitute, Bulk Up, and leave Shiftry to where it was before and then Braviary can Bulk Up, etc, eventually leaving it at +6 and Shiftry at +6. It doesn't even need to Subsitute because Shiftry's Sucker Punch will do less than half damage most of the time.

Gigalith @Choice Band
Adamant nature
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
~ Rock Blast
~ Stone Edge
~ Explosion
~ Earthquake

At +0 Atk/Def, Braviary is ohkod by all of Gigalith's move bar Earthquake whilst Braviary can only 6hko. At +6 Atk/Def though, Gigalith is 2hkod with brave bird whilst Gigalith 3hkos without factoring brave bird recoil. It's a suicide mission but meh, can't think of anything else lol

EDIT1: MY CALCS COULD BE WRONG THOUGH I THINK I MESSED UP SOMEWHERE i'mma edit it quick k
EDIT2: fixed, but still a suicide mission rofl

(psych up regirock + physically defensive probopass js. also braviary could Sub or Roost and somewhat stall it out, depending on what it's locked into, so it isn't the safest choice @ Gigalith, while psych up Regirock is uncommon but works well, forcing Braviary to switch or take Recoil [tho I guess Curse Regi could work too], while Probo can paralyse it if it plays well and can keep using Power Gem over and over and only 4hko's iirc? this is just for general information, though!!)

Nevertheless although it's been used before, it fits somewhat well here (it'll be nice to see a different counter from what was used before, though).

Alomomola@Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Scald
~ Toxic

Scald can burn it if it tries to attack outright with Stone Edge, and can recover HP with Protect/Wish and stall out Stone Edge and force a switch, considering it does 50% maximum. Or if it Explodes after SR it's only a 2HKO and it'll survive with a little HP and Gigalith will be dead. Unless the opponent has a Gothorita or a Diglett or a Trapinch to trap it, Alomomola can switch out and regenerate HP to around half ready for its next switch in.

(Everyone knows about those counters, I wanted to try something a little bit different.)


Frillish @Eviolite
Water Absorb ability
112 HP / 252 Def / 144 Spe
Jolly Nature
~ Night Shade
~ Recover
~ Toxic
~ Taunt

Frillish can come in on a predicted Scald, proceed with Taunt (with 144 speed EVs and a Jolly nature, Frillish outspeeds rofl), and goes to town. I wouldn't recommend this on actual sets though, just something that outright beats the set given above xD

Vileplume@leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
252 HP / 208 Def / 48 sPA
Bold
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synethesis

This was done on iPhone hope it's right!! Anyway so Night Shade is all Frillish can do which is a 5HKO-4HKO. Vileplume can recover HP with Giga Drain and ya can 3HKO. :3

WHOATABIRD (Noctowl) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 248 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Roost
- Whirlwind
- Psycho Shift

Noctowl isn't crap at all! It is extremely effective at shutting down grass types with sleep/double powder. It can switch in and be immune to sleep powder while taking little damage from sludge bomb (calc) and 3hkos most of the time(factoring lefties)

Ice Cream (Glaceon) (F) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Snow Cloak
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Speed
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- HP Ground
- Shadow Ball
- Baton Pass

1 Ice Beam will be enough to take this thing out. Air Slash isn't enough for a kill and the rest of the set poises no threat.

Charizard @Life Orb
Blaze ability
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid nature
~ Flamethrower / Fire Blast
~ Air Slash
~ Substitute
~ Roost

Charizard outspeeds and can ohko with Flamethrower/Fire Blast.

252 SpA Life Orb Blaze Charizard Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Glaceon: 556-658 (166.46 - 197%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Blaze Charizard Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Glaceon: 704-829 (210.77 - 248.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Zeffy said:

Charizard @Life Orb
Blaze ability
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid nature
~ Flamethrower / Fire Blast
~ Air Slash
~ Substitute
~ Roost

Charizard outspeeds and can ohko with Flamethrower/Fire Blast.

252 SpA Life Orb Blaze Charizard Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Glaceon: 556-658 (166.46 - 197%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Life Orb Blaze Charizard Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Glaceon: 704-829 (210.77 - 248.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Regirock @ Leftovers / Rocky Helmet
Clear Body
Impish Nature
252 HP / 252 Attack / 4 Defense
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Drain Punch
- Earthquake / Ice Punch

No attack calculations. I mean Stone Edge, right?
Regirock's still NU, isn't it? ;w;

@zeffy
252 SpAtk Choice Specs Glaceon (+SpAtk) Ice Beam vs 4 HP/0 SpDef Charizard: 97.99% - 115.77% (87.5% chance to OHKO)

anyway@ regirock
Alomomola w/ leftovers
Impish, 252hp 252def, regenerator
waterfall
wish
protect
toxic

Comes in on any move, wears it down with toxic and waterfall, and wish+protect to stay alive

This is a bit like a forum game!

Victreebel w/ Life Orb
Adamant, 252 Atk / 252 Spe, Chlorophyll
~Swords Dance
~Leaf Blade
~Sucker Punch
~Sleep Powder

Victreebel's Grass/Poison typing makes it is immune to Toxic and resistant to Waterfall, and therefore can easily set up three Swords Dances and go for the KO if Alomomola doesn't switch.

I've got one!


Combusken @ Life Orb
Speed Boost
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest nature
~ Fire Blast
~ Focus Blast
~ Protect
~ Substitute

An awesome moveset for this chicken, Fire Blast is able to check the many Grass, Ice and Bug-types present in NU while Focus Blast allows it to deal with Rock, Dark and Normal-types. Substitute helps stop status conditions for a bit, while Protect is a handy way of getting Combusken's Speed Boost to trigger. Try it out if you want.

Lapras @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature
- Surf
- Toxic
- Roar
- Ice Beam

With its Surf, I am pretty sure its a sure OHKO.

Yoshihiko said:

Lapras @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature
- Surf
- Toxic
- Roar
- Ice Beam

With its Surf, I am pretty sure its a sure OHKO.

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I'm not replying rn because I'm busy but I just want to correct this: Yeah no, Focus Blast has a 12% chance of OHKOing Lapras (if it hits) upon switching in and on the second turn Combusken will still kill it with Fire Blast to take the extra damage, or try Focus Blasting again because it outspeeds and if it misses it can just try to Focus Blast again in which it still may OHKO depending on the damage roll, and even if Combusken is behind a sub it'll still outspeed and likely could kill, so your only chance of surviving is luck, really. ;(

Counter this mon is for Pokemon that have safe switch-ins, rather than Pokemon that can just OHKO the other.

(will counter Lapras):


Ampharos:
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Focus Blast
Nature: Modest
EVs: 208 HP/252 SAtk/48 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Life Orb
Ability: Static

Ampharos' decent special bulk lets it take a STAB move from Lapras, then retaliate with Thunderbolt or scout with Volt Switch.

that golem is outsped and ohkoed and cannot switch in whatsoever if there are hazards up. by very definition, this is not a counter. you should also be using 252 atk / 252 spe (if you want a bulky rock setter then you should be using regirock) and rock blast over stone edge unless you enjoy being set up on by a load of things like sub ninjask or being pp stalled by subbu braviary. i also really like using custap berry + explosion over sucker punch, try that out next time you play with golem. normal gem is also a nice idea if your team really struggles with stuff like tangela / musharna or if you just want to get momentum going.


anyway to deal with ampharos: it's actually quite hard to find anything that can really switch in reliably because it has solid coverage and is rather strong, but piloswine can switch in on anything barring focus blast and ohko it with earthquake. you could also use something obnoxious like sdef ludicolo and stall it out with leech seed + giga drain but realistically you will never use that in an actual game


piloswine @ eviolite
thick fat
240 hp / 252 atk / 16 spe
adamant nature
- earthquake
- ice shard
- icicle spear / stone edge (if you have issues with regice / rotom-f, otherwise spear is superior)
- stealth rock

Poliswine is quite strong with Earthquake + Stone Edge, buuut, I'd say that set is countered by Samurott. Samurott can take Ice Attacks attacks from it's typing, and it's overall bulk can take a Earthquake and Stone Edge on the switch in. It can outspeed and OHKO with a Waterfall.


Samurott @ Life Orb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Waterfall
~ Aqua Jet
~ Swords Dance
~ Megahorn

Frillish:
-Night Shade
-Will-o-Wisp
-Recover
-Taunt
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
Item: Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb

Frillish walls Samurott. Hard. The best Samurott can do to it is Megahorn. Frillish can cripple Samurott with Will-o-Wisp afterwards, and wear it down with Night Shade.