2009 Influenza A (H1N1) Outbreak

[Buoysel]

Im sure it wont be too bad. I live in Kansas so Im pretty safe anyway but things like this are always sad.

I live in Kansas too, and guess what?! There are five suspected cases here, two of which are in the same town as me. :paranoid:

 

[Careful With That Axe Pichu!]

I don't even think that should count as a pandemic. I'm talking about pandemics that were the worst of it's kind. Tuberculosis, Bubonic, Small Pox

I repeat, a pandemic is still a pandemic. The Asian flu killed lots of people. More than this one... 68,000 in the US. alone. And it was a category 2 pandemic. Please don't try to challenge reality.

Btw, you should tell the OMS that you don't the Asian Flu was not a pandemic. I'm sure they'll be glad to correct their error... Or rather, yours.

Yes. It's his opinion

No, it's not an opinion. You can't make an opinion if you have no understanding of the matter, in this case, no understanding as to why some people actually take care of themselves.

just like it's your opinion to keep argueing with me over idiotic things.

Yeah, I was arguing over your attitude, so hey.

He'd look like an idiot wearing that when around large amounts of people. Now you're saying that Niagara is infested with people who carry contagious disease with them?

Large amounts of people from all over the world, including Mexico, and lots of people from New York City, both of which have a considerable amount of confirmed cases.

I'm sorry, I'd care more about my health than about my appearance. How do you think this diseases spread all over the world?

 

[Raaji]

What I think is kinda weird, but I'm still thankful for, is that New Mexico hasn't been hit by the flu to my knowledge. Just 4 suspected cases that I don't know if they confimed yet.

 

[Yingxue]

I actually live within a mile to a place that got closed down because of some kid who apparently had it. I'm not really all that worried, because I don't do anything that would put me in real danger, I rarely go out to crowded public places, and I make sure and keep my hands clean.

I live in an area that has a really good possibility of it breaking out and sickening a lot of people, and yet, I'm not really all that afraid.

 

[Volkner's Apprentice]

The college I'm planning on transferring to (see usertitle lol) has this big thing on their website on the flu and the prevention of it, like how they're keeping their students safe and scanning the campus omega-like for checks.

It's also slightly concerning for where I live (we have a racetrack here in upstate NY that gets lots of attention from Mexican caretakers for the breeders and house keepers. Hopefully the virus doesn't spread..or..hopefully they screen everyone entering our city.)

 

[True Reign]

I repeat, a pandemic is still a pandemic. The Asian flu killed lots of people. More than this one... 68,000 in the US. alone. And it was a category 2 pandemic. Please don't try to challenge reality.

I'm trying to 'challenge' reality. I'm just saying that that influenza strain shouldn't be considered as a pandemic as it didn't kill as much as the other diseases of the world.

Btw, you should tell the OMS that you don't the Asian Flu was not a pandemic. I'm sure they'll be glad to correct their error... Or rather, yours.

I know it's a pandemic, I'm just saying it shouldn't be considered as a pandemic.

No, it's not an opinion. You can't make an opinion if you have no understanding of the matter, in this case, no understanding as to why some people actually take care of themselves.

It's an opinion no matter what. I can't see the surface of Neptune or Mercury, but I can sure state my opinion of what it looks like.

An opinion is an opinion, even if you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

Large amounts of people from all over the world, including Mexico, and lots of people from New York City, both of which have a considerable amount of confirmed cases.

Okay.

I'm sorry, I'd care more about my health than about my appearance. How do you think this diseases spread all over the world?

So, you're worried about a disease that is now decreasing in strength? People like you are pretty funny; they worry about diseases that have absolutely have no strength whatsoever.

 

[Richard Wagner]

Whether or not H1N1 is a big deal....I personally am not going to live in fear. I trust that there are no tragedies in the universe, despite what conventional "wisdom" might say, and that whatever I have happen to me will be exactly what I wanted, either consciously or unconsciously.

 

[Careful With That Axe Pichu!]

I'm trying to 'challenge' reality. I'm just saying that that influenza strain shouldn't be considered as a pandemic as it didn't kill as much as the other diseases of the world.

My god, you should work for the OMS. That's a mastermind there.

I know it's a pandemic, I'm just saying it shouldn't be considered as a pandemic.

...What?

It's an opinion no matter what. I can't see the surface of Neptune or Mercury, but I can sure state my opinion of what it looks like.

Based on pictures you see. This guy didn't even have the right picture of the risk some people are trying to avoid, calling them pathetic.

An opinion is an opinion, even if you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

That my friend, is the best ingredient for a fool.

So, you're worried about a disease that is now decreasing in strength?

Yes. If you were better informed, you'd know pandemics are of that nature. They retreat only to return in a worse way. That is why nobody is dropping their guard.

People like you are pretty funny; they worry about diseases that have absolutely have no strength whatsoever.

You're basing that fact on something our health minister said. It's funny how he said this too:

"We cannot lower our guard. There is a high possibility that this virus will come back, especially in colder periods."

That could not be truer. Past pandemics have proven to descrease in strength only to increase in morbidity later. We should not lower the guard, nor think the disease is harmless.

I'm just defending the people who take care. Let them be. Wearing a mask on Niagara is completely fine and it is not pathetic nor it makes you look like an idiot, not in this situation. How the heck do you know they weren't ill and did not want to infect others?

Either way, I'm not tolerating your attitude against preventive measures, nor your ignorant comments about something you lack the understanding to discuss properly, such as claiming OMS's definition of pandemic is wrong only to defend the bashing of informed people.

 

[True Reign]

Of course pandemics are going to come back even worse. That's why the European nations and the States are working to find a vaccine that will help treat patients who become infected with H1N1.

Until then however, people should not get so freaked out. They should just take a deep breath, calm down, and realize that it won't be for another four to five months until they'll have to worry again.

 

[Careful With That Axe Pichu!]

Until then however, people should not get so freaked out. They should just take a deep breath, calm down, and realize that it won't be for another four to five months until they'll have to worry again.

That could not be truer. Yet we must not condemn those who take prudent preventive measures nor to categorize them as paranoid. We must hold a balance in between.

 

[Gymnotide]

I like the change in the thread's title.

Could care less*. Real flu is more dangerous.
Just refine our antivirals and get on with life.

Of course, that isn't to say that I have no concern for the people who have already contracted and/or died from the disease.
Except, pity won't do much at this point.

*about the microbe.

 

[Careful With That Axe Pichu!]

I'm not criticizing them in any way. The swine flu isn't airborne, and if someone had it, I highly doubt they'd be walking about in public, let alone a tourist attraction like Niagara Falls.

A mask is really effective in protecting you from a sneeze, or even the touch of your own hands if they were in contact with something touched by an infected person. This turned into a level 5 pandemic in a matter of days because the disease in matter is highly contagious. The OMS advises the use of surgical masks in any crowded place that might be prone to recieve infected people. Niagara is visited by lots of people from all over the world, many of them from Mexico and New York City, I repeat, both places with significant outbreaks.

Why do you think the OMS advises not to travel? Because you can still infect/get infected. Maybe these people had paid the trip already but didn't want to risk it. And by that I do not mean their own health, it includes the health of people at their home.

 

[Toblerone]

On another note, here in the UK i woman has been diagnosed with the Swine Flu after being told she hadn't obtained it. Apparantely she continued her everyday life untila few days later she got told she had it. She could've infected many people, if of course the virus can be passed on by human - to - human contact. Has the contact thing been confirmed outside of the USA yet?

 

[Vie]

I think we have 8 cases now in germany. the chances that half europe gets it aren't that bad, but I hate those panic makers. they are also warning that there is a new wave of the illness coming, but I still wonder how this is able to spread that much.

hah, I just read that there are dying 36.000 people in the US every year because of a 'normal' flu. they never talk about that. but now that there is something new, they have to tell the whole world that people die and everyone acts very paranoid and stupid.

 

[Toblerone]

Precisely, i think it's just the media overreacting. To them it's just a big story to feed until it's a big stuffed monster. Then they kill it. But seriously though, i think people have the right to worry. If the virus spreads ALOT then they could worry about someone close to them having their life threatened by it. And i think that's why people are panicing now.

 

[Vie]

of course they have the right to be scared, but its .. unnecessary. if people were afraid of every possibilty to die, then they would ... stare at a wall. and nothing else. but you are right with that media thing, thats what I meant.

 

[Careful With That Axe Pichu!]

hah, I just read that there are dying 36.000 people in the US every year because of a 'normal' flu.

of course they have the right to be scared, but its .. unnecessary.

Normal flu is much different from this one. People die from normal flu because they're much too young or very old or simply have very low defenses. The big difference here is that the H1N1 is killing healthy young people between 20 and 40 years of age it is also roughly twice as contagious than normal flu. That isn't too promising and is something worth to take care of.

Of course the media has got its misconceptions, but I think it's equally foolish not to care a bit about the outbreaks. You're risking not only your health, but others'. That is how the virus keeps spreading.

 

[Vie]

Of course the media has got its misconceptions, but I think it's equally foolish not to care a bit about the outbreaks. You're risking not only your health, but others'. That is how the virus keeps spreading.

well its not that I don't care about it, I wouldn't post here if so, I just think that too much is too much.

 

[.inLOVE]

It's called WASHING YOUR HANDS. Just that teeny little bit could save you from the virus.

It's come to my state, North Carolina, now too.

 

[Netto Azure]

Ok now can stop fighting over Personal hygiene now. >.>
It's petering out. ;3

Mexico to begin lifting flu curbs

Restaurants and cafes in Mexico City are to reopen on Wednesday after the country recorded a fall in new cases of the swine flu virus.
Libraries, museums and churches are to follow suit a day later but cinemas, theatres and bars are to remain closed, the mayor's office said.
Government officials are meeting to discuss when schools and businesses across the country can resume work.
More than 1,000 cases of the virus have been reported in 20 countries.
Confirmed cases in the US have risen from 226 to 286, spread over 36 states, with most patients suffering mild symptoms. One death has been confirmed - that of a Mexican two-year-old boy who was visiting Texas.
Officials say the rise in cases in recent days was due to results of lab tests coming through, rather than because of a new surge in cases.
The UN says it has seen no evidence of a spread at community level in Europe and Asia - a development that would trigger the highest level of alert.