Apocalypse 2012

[Kura]

.. I just read the most freakiest thing that connected all these cultures together from before the bible and even after the bible with certain symbols depicting the history and what will happen in the year 2012..

But before I share, I want to hear what your thoughts are on this day.
Do you believe it? What exactly do you believe.

But more importantly.. what proof do you have to believe it? What makes you believe in it so strongly?

I'm really curious, and I'd like to hear different opinions <33

If you don't believe that the world will end, do you believe that a certain specific event will happen?
What do you, essentially, think will happen (or not happen)?



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[R a i n n s a n雨]

Ugh... Its not gonna happen. 30 years ago they set a date. Hey. The world is still here. I don't think were gonna die... just yet. But

(I've had a good life...)

 

[Luck]

Isn't there another thread about this?
well, the legend was from the ancient mayans wasn't it, and wasn't it supposedly on dec. 21?
but no, i think it is absolutely stupid that the world would end and that there is nothing to say why(or have i read wrong?).
People said the world would end in 2000 because of the Y2K bug, but nothing has happened and we are still here.
but yeah, a specific event will happen at the most.
but until that time comes(if it does), i will disbelieve anything that science and logic doesn't agree with.

 

[devilicious]

I already live everyday of my life like it's my last. :B

And no, I don't really believe in the end of the world. At least not by religious means.

 

[Legobricks]

666 was 6th June 2006, right? Nothing happened.

At least four years later...

2k12 was 21st December 2012, right? Nothing happened.


That's what I think, nobody hold it against me.

 

[spike6958]

Meh, who cares, if somthing happens it happens, nothing we can do about it, and besides it's 3 years away, and if somthing is to happen well just live life for the next 3 years with no regrets and enjoy youself, that's what i have done my entire life.

 

[Yamikarasu]

No, it is merely a coincidence that we are alive in the time that the Mayan calender just happens to reset. It isn't a big deal, the way there calender works there will always be a reset date. Nothing will happen.

At least I hope nothing happens, that's the year I graduate. :(

 

[Hiidoran]

Oh, why does this always have to be brought up?
The Mayan's built a calendar based on era's. Once an era came to a close, another calendar would be built.
Well, do you see any more active Mayan civilizations?
Nope.
So, who's making the new calendar for us?
Nobody.
The world's coming to an end!
Nah, the Mayan calendar is just coming to an end.

A lot of people are afraid of the Polar Shift that is supposed to occur sometime around this time.
Man kind has gone through a few polar shifts, we survived.
At most, the world will go into a bit of chaos, kind of like a natural disaster. However, we'll pull through. It's not the end of the world.

Sorry if I sound mean or anything... I just don't like this morbid discussion.
(But I can't stop coming to them! xD)

 

[Her]

Isn't 12.12.12 the end of the Mayan calender? So, that would mean that then would be the end of the world.

But, if anything should've happened, it would've been on 6.6.6, 2 years ago.

 

[Raichu Master]

*le sigh* why do i even bother with this thread? I'm not sure but here's an answer.

Even from a biblical stand point the world isn't going to end. When you mix superstition with religion and mix religion with anything but religion you get problems.

So in other words, the whole 666 thing is a sham and joke. And the mayan civilization, i don't know much about it, but as was said before people keep predicting the end of the world, and the world hasn't ended.

It's all pure speculation.

 

[fade101]

Ok soo 12.12.12 is the end of the Mayan calender??
One question... What calender are you usin now and are you like a Mayan... person... wait, thats two questions ^^
I believe it like last time but then when i think back, this is pure bull crap...

 

[Weatherman Kiyoshi]

No. the world is not going to end.
seriously, do you know how many times the world was suppose to "end".
Because of them, I still got plenty of Y2K candles from my grandmother.

It's not going to happen. we're not going to all die because the mayans said so.
end of story.

now, who wants these leftover food supplies? :D

 

[Sushi.]

God I hate these kind of threads of this problem. Why am I here for no reason >_< Anyway, the world won't end at 2012 because I mean can we still have a great time of our life's now?

 

[Kura]

Oh, and the Mayan calendar doesn't "End" specifically on December 12, 2012, just a cycle that ends. (There's more info on this specifically on Wikipedia)
But basically, the person who mainly came up with the calendar didn't believe that the world was going to end in 2012, because he was looking forward to celebrating an anniversary in 2000 years or so after 2012.

I also found something extremely interesting:

The Ancient world believed in A Mysterious Comet Planet that would pass earth in great intervals, over several thousand years.

The Ancient Sumerians (the first civilization, even before the Egyptians) called this Comet Planet, NIBIRU. The Egyptians named it, "THE PLANET OF A MILLION YEARS" and Ancient Babylon renamed it MARDUK, the name of their god.

Actually the Sumerians (circa 3400 BC) believed in a solar system much as we have today, with a round earth revolving around the sun along with eleven other celestrial bodies. (How would they know all of this with such a lack of technology?)

The Ancients believed NIBIRU, The Comet Planet, would travel clockwise (against our solar planets that travel counter-clock wise).NIBIRU passes earth thru the Asteroid Belt between Jupiter and Mars.

Nibiru was said to be slightly smaller than Jupiter, which would be a massive and visible object as it passed earth.

Some Ancient Texts claimed NIBIRU passed earth every 3600 years, some every 10,500 years. The Comet Planet is kind of a giant version of Halley's Comet which passes earth every 72-76 years.

In Gen: 6:3,YHWH GOD told Noah, "My Spirit will not always strive with man. Therefore his years will be 120".

Now if we divide 120 years into 432,000 years, we get 3600 years, the time the Sumerians believed it took NIBIRU to make a complete revolution around the Sun as it passes earth.

That means a "year for the Comet Planet" is 3600 years vs 360/365 days for an earth year. This is almost reminiscent of The Bible where as it reads, "A DAY WITH THE LORD IS AS A 1000 YEARS."

Weird thing is.. That planet HAS been proven. NASA has proved that it exists

Many scientists believe The Flood occured, 11,000 BC. Most Biblical scholars place the great flood around 5200 BC, another passing of Nibiru.

Gravitational pull upon the earth, when The Comet Planet passed, could have broken the Glaciers up and caused 1000 ft tidal waves to flood the earth, exactly what The Bible says in Gen:6:99.

MAYAN CALENDAR REVISTED

The 5000 Year Mayan Calendar ends on DEC 22, 2012 AD. The ancient Mayans claim this calendar was given to them by the god, QUEZECOATAL, The Feathered Serpent.

This would have been in the year 3012 BC. According to ancient Egyptian records, The god THOTH left Egypt in the year 3113 BC and may have reappeared in Meso America.

It is possible that these gods were actually Extra-Terrestrials. Whether Aliens or Demonic Spirits, they had advanced knowledge of our universe and 2012 AD is probably the DATE when NIBIRU, the Comet Planet again will pass earth.

and

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_whenry02.htm

And if it wasn't true, then why do these different cultures have similar visions?

Mayan prophecy

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The Mayan symbol matches the Babylonian symbol for the Sun and the logo for the Holy Grail found on the tombstone of William St. Clair at Rosslyn Chapel, Scotland.
Each of these is the same as the Buddhist Dharma Wheel of Time.

Mayan

Compare this to..

Egyptian

 

[The Graceful Assassin]

Me personally i dont believe in any of this. Yes the world will eventually come to an end but I doubt it will be foretold by Ancient civilizations.

Although, i do admit it is very interesting, people also thought the world would end in 2000. 8 years have passed and we are all alive and breathing. But my main point is i doubt Ancient Civilizations would have the ability to predict our worlds destruction, so just because a calendar ends in 2012 really doesnt mean anything to me. So unless pigs start flying im not buying it.

 

[Yamikarasu]

Kura, when you said that this 'Nibiru' planet actually has been proven, you don't really give any proof. It's just some nut rambling about how the planet could have broken up the glaciers that caused the flood in the bible, which most credible scientists do not believe occurred, based on the lack of evidence for it.

It's going to be funny when its New Years Day 2013, and all the nuts are going to say: "Oh s***, maybe they meant 3012. Yeah, that's it."

 

[Kura]

Me personally i dont believe in any of this. Yes the world will eventually come to an end but I doubt it will be foretold by Ancient civilizations.

Although, i do admit it is very interesting, people also thought the world would end in 2000. 8 years have passed and we are all alive and breathing. But my main point is i doubt Ancient Civilizations would have the ability to predict our worlds destruction, so just because a calendar ends in 2012 really doesnt mean anything to me. So unless pigs start flying im not buying it.

Technically, they didn't think that the world was specifically going to end in 2000, just that the computers weren't going to be able to recognize the 2000 in the date, and therefore malfunction, causing chaos.
It was like a myth :/ Like a rumor.

But if you say that you doubt that Ancient civilizations were able to predict it, then what about the fact that the Sumeritans, the first civilizations, had a way to discover that we were the 7th planet backwards (from Pluto) in our solar system?
They didn't have telescopes. They didn't have computers or spacecrafts.
How did they know?

Also:

This would have been in the year 3012 BC. According to ancient Egyptian records, The god THOTH left Egypt in the year 3113 BC and may have reappeared in Meso America.

That was when the last cycle of the Mayan calendar ended. When the planet Nibiru passed Earth last, and what caused a gravitational pull and the waters to rise and cause destruction.

The start of the Great Cycle ( day 0.0.0.0.0) on 11th August 3114 BC, and the end-date (known as 13.0.0.0.0.) as 21st December 2012.

Also:

c. 3000 BC - Stonehenge begins to be built. In its first version, it consists of a circular ditch and bank, with 56 wooden posts. (National Geographic, June 2008).

Perhaps Stonehenge really does have an unknown reason for its existence..


And an ending note:

The astronomer Philip Plait has stated very clearly that the Mayan calendar does not end in 2012 at all, that it is like the odometer on your car, as each section of the odometer reaches 9 and then clicks over to 0, the next number to it starts a new cycle, so that when all the numbers again reach 0 all the way across the odometer - the last number will change from 1 to 2 and the new cycle starts all over again.

Yami: They had links to all these documentaries on youtube but my flashplayer isn't working so I don't want to link anyone to something unrelated. @@
I'll post it when I find a good one <3


Here's the finding:
https://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2007/12/31/ahead_20071231_cor2_512.mpg

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323951/pg1

Day 1: https://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2007/12/30/ahead/cor2/2048/

 

[Yamikarasu]

But if you say that you doubt that Ancient civilizations were able to predict it, then what about the fact that the Sumeritans, the first civilizations, had a way to discover that we were the 7th planet backwards (from Pluto) in our solar system?
They didn't have telescopes. They didn't have computers or spacecrafts.
How did they know?

Yeah, and they were so far ahead of our modern day technology, weren't they? *rolls eyes*

When the planet Nibiru passed Earth last, and what caused a gravitational pull and the waters to rise and cause destruction.

You don't have any evidence to back this up.

Perhaps Stonehenge really does have an unknown reason for its existence..

Um... no, it's a calender that predicts the equinoxes. The equinoxes were very important to early religions.

And yes, the Mayan calender does not end, it mearly completes a cycle. It is also merely a coincidence that we are alive during the end of this cycle, much like the coincidence that we were alive during two millenniums, which I think is a lot cooler.

 

[Kura]

Yeah, and they were so far ahead of our modern day technology, weren't they? *rolls eyes*

You don't have any evidence to back this up.

Um... no, it's a calender that predicts the equinoxes. The equinoxes were very important to early religions.

And yes, the Mayan calender does not end, it mearly completes a cycle. It is also merely a coincidence that we are alive during the end of this cycle, much like the coincidence that we were alive during two millenniums, which I think is a lot cooler.

Was it to predict equinoxes? I read on Wikipedia that it wasn't for equinoxes :/..

Yeah, I think we'll still be alive. I think our civilization will have a major shift, though.. Like last time the Neolithic period ended..
And what are we in now? The Information age, right? Perhaps we'll shift into a new age?

c. 3000 BC — Cycladic civilization starts
c. 3000 BC — Minoan civilization starts
c. 3000 BC - Helladic period starts

That's what Wiki says.. perhaps something new will start <3

And look at my above post please.
That's the most official stuff I could find. I thought it was proven because that's what I read, but I guess it's not entirely proven.

Regardless, it's still very interesting <3


I have this book called the unexplained and it has a lot of interesting mysteries in it :3


Yami, do you believe that nothing will happen?


Edit: I found this and thought it was cool!

THE CROP CIRCLE CONNECTION

The number 26, The Mayan Tzolkin, and the Grid Crop Circle

Photo by Steve Alexander.

In "SC" # 68, Michael Glickman interpreted the 1997 Etchilhampton "Grid" crop formation (above) as a pointer to 2012. The formation was a 30 x 26 checkerboard-like grid, giving a total of 780 squares. This, Michael theorized, could indicate the thirty 26-week periods between 1997 and 2012.

Geoff adds that the 780 squares of the grid are exactly divisible by the TZOLKIN, or Mayan Sacred Calendar, which is a grid of 260 squares with sides of 13 x 20. Three Tzolkins fit into the crop grid pattern. Two fit straight in and the third after bisection.

The grid seems related to a "map" called "Psi Bank Warp and Holonomic Woof" mentioned in a book called "Earth Ascending," by Jose Arguelles (page 121). The "map" consists of eight Tzolkins joined together showing relationships between the Mayan calendar, the "I Ching" and the 64 DNA codons. Arguelles researched the Mayan calendar, physics, philosophy, geomancy and the "I Ching," and concluded that mankind is creating a "noosphere," or mind layer, around the Earth, which is evolving towards the "Omega Point of Planetary Awakening" in 2012, according to Teillard de Chardin.

 

[Yamikarasu]

No, I don't think anything will happen. There *might* be some sort of comet that will pass, but I really don't think this is a big enough reason to get people paranoid that "the end of the world is near!"

Yeah, although obviously we cannot go back and time and ask the builders of Stonehenge why they built it, it is pretty much concurred that it is a calender due to the fact that the sun passes through the rocks at a certain angle each equinox.