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5th Gen B & W Elite 4

austy14

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    Dragons aren't over used in the E4

    Cynthia had a Garchomp, Lance had all his crappy annoying Dragonite's and Drake had like Shelgons and Salamence's. There weren't many dragons used (not that there were very much variety) And Gyarados isn't a dragon type so it doesn't count.

    Since there will be so many dragon types in Isshu there will be certainly a Dragon type in either the E4 or the last gym leader (Dragons are too strong to be gym 1-7) And I would prefer it in the E4 as I want a major challenge.

    Well there has been a dragon trainer in all but one:

    Gen I: Lance
    Gen II: Lance, again; though champion
    Gen III: Drake
    Gen IV: None, though Cynthia had one, which wasn't bad.

    So I just think with there being a dragon trainer in 3/4 regions is just like people hate rock being the first gym in 3/4 regions. But there's no rock gym, so I doubt there will be a dragon E4 member.
     

    Corruptodile

    Ma chérie, Je t'aime.
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    They should have a few of the types that you've noted are not in the E4, but not all of them. I think there should be an Electric, Grass, Flying and Water type, with the Champion being miscellaneous, like Blue or Cynthia.
     

    King Gumball

    Haven't been here for ages...
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    I wonder if they will have an E4 member as a triple battle. It seems unlikely that there will be a triple battle in the gyms as there are already 3 gym leaders in the first gym (even though you dont have a 3 way btattle with them) so it would be very unlikely that there would be another gym with three leaders.

    When they introduced double battle's in R/S they had Tate and Liza as double leaders. so I pray that there will be a triple E4 member.
     

    austy14

    Cannibal
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    I wonder if they will have an E4 member as a triple battle. It seems unlikely that there will be a triple battle in the gyms as there are already 3 gym leaders in the first gym (even though you dont have a 3 way btattle with them) so it would be very unlikely that there would be another gym with three leaders.

    When they introduced double battle's in R/S they had Tate and Liza as double leaders. so I pray that there will be a triple E4 member.

    That does seem cool! But I doubt it :/ Gym, yes, but not E4... Though a champion triple battle? Maybe. But battling the E4 2 at a time would be cool!
     

    Planetes.

    @n_diiv
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    NO! Dragon has been overused in the elite 4. I'm sorry... just no. Maybe one dragon pokemon. If the champion is Iris, I could see her having the kibago evolution.

    I sublty stated that its been overused.
     

    Cameo

    Superior heat protecter!
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    Personally I'm more than sick and tired of those E4 members who only use dragon pokémon. In Kanto it was exciting and challenging to face Lance who was supposedly this great dragon tamer and stuff. Johto had Clair as the final gym leader which was quite nice because of her Kingdra and stuff but then it was revealed that Lance had become the champion and it started to feel pretty boring. And finally in Generation III in Hoenn's E4 we had a new member called Drake who AGAIN used those dragon pokémon. And FINALLY IN SINNOH we have this cool pokémon champion and what does she use as her signature pokémon?! HUH? ANYONE?! A freakin' dragon pokémon called Garchomp that was listed as an über and became one of the most OU pokémon ever. So yeah, I am literally full of those dragon gym leaders (though there have been only one gym leader) and those other trainers so it is no stunner at all that I will hate it if the new regional champion is going to use any dragon pokémon. Or if there will be any E4 members using dragon-type.

    I also wish that the unrevealed E4 won't have both Dark and Ice as their usage because we have had them both twice already. To remind you both Lorelei and Glacia were using Ice-type while Karen and Sidney used Dark-type. In Hoenn they were in the same league so it was way too easy because they both have weakness for Fighting-type. That's why I wish they'd add something like Water, Grass, Normal, Electric, Steel or Ghost in to the Isshu League so we would have something new for a while. I'm really tired to see those same kind and really easy beaten trainers when they are supposed to be the best in the whole region.
     

    Weavile05

    Currently Hacking BW
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    1st: Blue
    2nd: Lance (sorry dragon haters)
    3rd: Steven
    4th: Cynthia
    5th: New Isshu Champion

    Either that or a place where you can battle the champions of each Region.
     

    Cameo

    Superior heat protecter!
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    1st: Blue
    2nd: Lance (sorry dragon haters)
    3rd: Steven
    4th: Cynthia
    5th: New Isshu Champion

    Either that or a place where you can battle the champions of each Region.

    Oh, I just hate you right now. :DD No, just joking around. But yeah, in the same time it would be cool to get to fight all those previous champions but there's no chance that'll get to happen. Isshu is said to be really far off from other regions so it is really unlikely that champions will leave from their own regions to Isshu so we can fight them few times. Though these are just games there must be some logic and boundaries or it is just way too annoying and the excitement is completely lost. That's why I believe they won't let us battle other champions.
     

    austy14

    Cannibal
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    1st: Blue
    2nd: Lance (sorry dragon haters)
    3rd: Steven
    4th: Cynthia
    5th: New Isshu Champion

    Either that or a place where you can battle the champions of each Region.

    That would be great if you could battle them all! They could be at some champion meeting and you could like battle them XD; but wouldn't the player character be the champion now? :o;;; but I hope you can battle the isshu e4 outside of the league, like flint did. It was cool :D
     

    solarowl

    I'll always be an Outsider.
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    1st: electric
    2nd: Steel
    3rd: Normal would be cool.
    4th: Ice
    Champ: Mixed

    Has anyone ever thought of having E4 special rules? Like nintendo adds a bonus like double battles, or maybe Use 3 pokemon or something. That would be cool if there was one E4 member who was like the strongest double battler or something. And the champion is a regular battle. But I guess this would get rid of a special seriousness people feel when battling E4.
    That would be a cool I dea if you could face champions of different regions. I would love that!
     

    yossarian

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    Wasn't Bruno in Gen I a rock master?

    Anyway, the ones that I'll like to see are Grass, Normal and Flying.

    1) Grass
    2) Normal
    3) Flying
    4) Electric

    5) Champ - Mix of all with the standard pseudo legendary Dragon Pokemon
     

    MrGriszell

    Madara
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    1 Grass (with 3 pokemon withe high spc df, df. and attacks that bring your stats down)(1 Pokemon with insane speed that elavates his stats then use baton pass to bring out the finale pokemon with high water,electric, fire and grass attacks)
    2 Dark pokemon (with high speed that can use fire attacks and moves to raise teams defence sharply.)
    3 Dragon pokemon with fire attacks(2 with good defence stats,3 with crazy attack)
    4 variouse type pokemon (with moves like mirror coat and counter)
    Champion. Variouse types( 1 Oppiste to your starter, 2 electric pokemon(one offence,one defence)1 Crazy awsome flying type. and 2 legendarys)
     

    RulerArceus

    的なインターネッ? ??の最高級!
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    OOOOHHH!I Have one!
    1.Electric
    2.Ghost
    3.Rock
    4.Steel
    5.Champion Mixed:Random Legendary Pokemon:Zorua/Victini.
     

    Clefairies

    I'm always chasing rainbows.
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    I agree, Dragon type Pokemon are over-used.
    Maybe one of the E4 members or trainers could have a couple Draogn Pokemon?
    I would love the E4 members to not specialise in one type, it'd make the battles interesting.
     

    Shinjiro

    Secret Request Helper.
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    OOOOHHH!I Have one!
    1.Electric
    2.Ghost
    3.Rock
    4.Steel
    5.Champion Mixed:Random Legendary Pokemon:Zorua/Victini.

    I thought Zorua isn't a legendary, The one you've said. And I think they should stop making Dragon user in Elite 4 (I've had enough!). Plus, This is the first Main Pokemon game that start in somewhere of USA. So they probably/have to add some American Pokemon creatures like Wargle and many more that hasn't reveal yet.
     

    Neelh

    i am so win lol!!1! :P
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    Well maybe not total random style, but maybe duo types? But unique combos. Like Grass and Ice. Fire and Water. Dark and Psycic. Electric and Ghost. Then the champion... normal type!

    YES.

    NORMAL-TYPE CHAMPION.

    DO WANT.

    But all his Pokemon would need to know Foresight...
     
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