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SnailCandy

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  • 252 Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 181-213 (64.4 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Lulz, anyway!

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    Talonflame @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    -Brave Bird
    -Flare Blitz
    -U-Turn
    -Steel Wing

    252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 320-378 (113.8 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 188-222 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    PlatinumDude

    Nyeh?
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  • 252 Atk Choice Band Ferrothorn Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 181-213 (64.4 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Lulz, anyway!

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    Talonflame @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    -Brave Bird
    -Flare Blitz
    -U-Turn
    -Steel Wing

    252 Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 320-378 (113.8 - 134.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Talonflame: 188-222 (63 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    Gale Wings is kinda redundant with Choice Scarf, you know.

    Anyway:
    Regirock:
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    -Stealth Rock
    -Rock Slide
    -Drain Punch
    -Toxic
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 240 HP/252 Atk/16 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Regirock takes a pittance from everything Talonflame throws at it, even Steel Wing and threatens it out with Rock Slide or Toxic, or even uses the switch-out to set up Stealth Rock.
     
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  • Aegislash (M) @ Spooky Plate
    Ability: Stance Change
    EVs: 96 HP / 144 Atk / 252 SAtk / 16 Spd
    Rash Nature
    - King's Shield
    - Shadow Ball
    - Shadow Sneak
    - Flash Cannon

    Aeglislash takes around 40% from Rock Slide and it 2HKOs Regirock with Flash Cannon.

    252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Regirock: 320-378 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
    252+ Atk Regirock Rock Slide vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 97-114 (34 - 40%) -- 40.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Goodra @ Choice Specs / Assault Vest
    Trait: Sap Sipper
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Def
    Modest Nature

    - Draco Meteor
    - Flash Cannon Sludge Wave
    - Fire Blast
    - Thunderbolt / Dragon Pulse

    Goodra takes low damage from Shadow Ball and Flash Cannon thanks to its massive special defense (which is even further bolstered with an Assault Vest), and Shadow Sneak only deals about 25%. Fire Blast is an OHKO no matter how you look at it.
     
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    Nah

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    -Garchomp w/Haban Berry
    Nature: Jolly
    Ability: Rough Skin
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Outrage, Earthquake, Swords Dance, Stone Edge


    Thanks to the Haban Berry, Garchomp can survive a Draco Meteor:


    252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Haban Berry Garchomp: 237-280 (66.2 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


    Then you know the rest.
     

    Jet Pilot

    I killed Spiderman.
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    Alakazam @ Life Orb
    Inner Focus
    Timid Nature
    4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Hidden Power Ice
    Signal Beam
    Psyshock
    Focus Blast

    252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 406-478 (113.4 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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    Nah

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    Alakazam @ Life Orb
    Inner Focus
    Timid Nature
    4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Hidden Power Ice
    Signal Beam
    Psyshock
    Focus Blast

    252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 406-478 (113.4 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


    That is a really shaky counter at best, since Outrage and Earthquake cleanly OHKO Alakazam, and Stone Edge drops its HP by at least 80%:
    252 Atk Garchomp Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 204-241 (80.9 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


    Anyway:
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    -Spiritomb w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Infiltrator
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Sucker Punch, Shadow Sneak, Toxic, Dark Pulse


    Is immune to Psyshock and Focus Blast, and can take a few Signal Beams and/or Hidden Power Ices:
    252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Signal Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Spiritomb: 103-121 (33.8 - 39.8%) -- 23.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery


    252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Spiritomb: 82-97 (26.9 - 31.9%) -- 42.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


    Then OHKOS with Sucker Punch, which will not fail since Alakazam is running all attack moves>







     
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    Sylveon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pixilate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 SAtk
    Calm Nature
    • Hyper Voice
    • Wish
    • Heal Bell
    • Protect

    Doesn't take much damage from any of Spiritomb's attacks; takes it down with a couple of Hyper Voices.

    4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Spiritomb: 254-302 (83.5 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ Atk Spiritomb Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 80-95 (20.3 - 24.1%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Spiritomb Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 81-96 (20.5 - 24.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Heatran @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Modest Nature

    - Fire Blast
    - Flash Cannon
    - Hidden Power Grass
    - Earth Power

    Sigh... do I even need to explain? Hyper Voice deals nothing to Heatran, which 4x resists Fairy, while Flash Cannon 2HKOes even specially defensive Sylveon with the help of a Life Orb.
     
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    Mega Charizard Y @ Charizardite Y
    Ability: Blaze (Drought)
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spd
    Nature: Hasty
    - Flare Blitz
    - Focus Blast
    - Earthquake
    - Roost

    252+ SpA Life Orb Heatran Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 170-201 (57.2 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    A Fire Blast from Heatran only 2HKOs. Mega Charizard Y outspeeds and OHKOs with Earthquake on the following turn.
     
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  • Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang

    Intimidate lowers Charizard's Attack stat. The strongest move Charizard can hit Gyarados with is Flare Blitz which only deals around 37% in Sun.

    -1 252 Atk Mega Charizard Y Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados in Sun: 102-120 (30.7 - 36.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Charizard Y in Sun: 188-224 (63.2 - 75.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Avalugg @ Choice Band
    Trait: Ice Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 228 Def
    Adamant Nature

    - Avalanche
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang

    Avalugg has an extreme physical defense and a great base Attack stat, which are requirements in order to be a proper counter to DD Gyara, even at -1. Here are some calcs to prove that:

    252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 228 Def Avalugg: 72-85 (18.2 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
    +1 252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 228 Def Avalugg: 108-127 (27.4 - 32.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    +2 252+ Atk Gyarados Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 228 Def Avalugg: 144-169 (36.5 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    -1 28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Avalanche vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 202-238 (60.8 - 71.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Avalanche vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 303-357 (91.2 - 107.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
    -1 28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 226-266 (68 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Stone Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 338-398 (101.8 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Heatran @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
    Calm Nature
    - Lava Plume
    - Earth Power
    - Taunt
    - Toxic

    Tried my best to not use Heatran, but couldn't think of anything better. Sorry. ;; Anyway, Heatran should be able to withstand any of Avalugg's attacks without any issues, then knock it out with Lava Plume.

    4 SpA Heatran Lava Plume vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 398-470 (101 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    28+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 132-156 (34.1 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
     

    Arc

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  • Azumarill @ Choice Band
    Ability: Huge Power
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Nature: Adamant
    - Aqua Jet
    - Waterfall
    - Superpower
    - Play Rough

    Resists Heatran's main stab, and Earth Power doesn't really bother Azumarill. Which Azumarill can either OHKO with Waterfall or 2HKO with Aqua Jet.

    4 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 97-115 (24 - 28.4%) -- 97% chance to 4HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 456-536 (118.1 - 138.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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  • Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Giga Drain
    - Sleep Powder
    - Hidden Power [Ground]

    Venusaur resists all of Azumarill's moves and 2HKOs it with Sludge Bomb or Giga Drain.

    252+ SpA Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 320-380 (79.2 - 94%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ SpA Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 270-318 (66.8 - 78.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venusaur: 156-183 (42.8 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venusaur: 138-163 (37.9 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    Arc

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  • Metagross @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
    Nature: Adamant
    - Meteor Mash
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Earthquake
    - Bullet Punch

    Metagross is immune to Sludge Bomb, Giga Drain does very little to scratch Meta, and Hidden Power is a 4HKO. All the while, Metagross can OHKO with a Zen Headbutt.

    252+ Atk Metagross Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Venusaur: 344-408 (94.5 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
    252+ SpA Venusaur Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Metagross: 88-104 (24.1 - 28.5%) -- 96.9% chance to 4HKO
     

    Opposite Day

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    Slowbro @ Leftovers
    Ability: Regenerator
    Nature: Bold
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    - Scald
    - Slack Off
    - Ice Beam
    - Fire Blast

    Resists everything sans EQ - which has a shot to 5hko if Slowbro doesn't do anything, hell, it heals off more by switching than Meta could do to it. In return it can either 3hko w/ Fire Blast or just spam Scald until something is burned - regardless this is one massive uphill battle for poor Metagross.
     
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  • Starmie @ Life Orb
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Psychic

    I don't think it needs any explanation.

    4 SpA Slowbro Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 49-58 (18.7 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
    4 SpA Slowbro Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 45-53 (17.2 - 20.3%) -- possible 5HKO

    252+ SpA Life Orb Starmie Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowbro: 281-333 (71.3 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Florges @ Leftovers
    Trait: Flower Veil
    EVs: 252 HP / 20 SpA / 236 SpD
    Calm Nature

    - Moonblast
    - Toxic
    - Wish
    - Protect

    With 20 SpA EVs, Florges can 2HKO Starmie with Moonblast, while Surf caps at 30.5% even with Life Orb and a Modest nature. Wish and Protect make sure Florges can win even if Starmie gets a critical hit.

    20 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Starmie: 132-156 (50.5 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ SpA Life Orb Starmie Surf vs. 252 HP / 236+ SpD Florges: 94-110 (26.1 - 30.5%) -- 3.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
     
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    Bisharp @ Life Orb
    Ability: Defiant
    EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Iron Head
    - Knock Off
    - Sucker Punch

    Takes Florges down with Iron Head as soon as it gets sent out on the field. Rarely see this Pokémon being used around here, so I thought I should give it a go. :p

    252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Florges: 499-588 (138.6 - 163.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    20 SpA Florges Moonblast vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 154-183 (55.1 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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