Do you like chickens? Help save them!!!

PichuSecretBase said:
We do NOT rule the world. as long if there is other enhabitents in it that we cant control we donot rule it. And who made us ruler supreme. And we donot use 90% of land (not including water)! For all you know we could be manipulated by some flipping bird right now and we not even know it.
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As I see it we do. We have the power to destroy land, we have the power to wipe out whole race's of animals we have the power to start wars....it looks like the creature call human does rule the world.
 
God gave mankind dominion over all creatures, so, in that sense, we do sort of rule the world. We were made in his likeness, pushing the fact that the fate of the world rests in our hands. But, despite how true that may be, there is still no exuse for animal cruelty. Even though they aren't as intelligent as ourselves, they are still living beings, and deserve to be treated as such. Big or small, everything has a point in this world, and we need to see to it that we keep all these beneficial things in existence.


Whoo, now I feel wise, hehe...
*blows bubbles out of a pipe and srokes his chin*
 
Actually,No one Rules the world BUT The Lord. He Made Earth,Animals,People.This is just a sign for things to come...Ever heard of the "Apocalypse"? All who repent on thy life shall forever live with my in thiyn heaven.
 
But you have to kill and be cruel or otherwise it will be the humans who die. Kill or be killed. Humans eat meat and thats never going to change so animals must die for the surviaval of others. You dont protest aligators becuse they eat other animals ...no becuse it's basic survival that is within all living creatures. So as long as humans live...no as long as anything needs to eat, have a home, have fun, something or someone will suffer
 
Yes, the Lord rules all. But, he gave us our free agency, allowing us to make choices for ourselves. What we do with the world is still in our hands, for we are the ones who inhabit it, being the most intelligent of all life on earth.
 
And thats what makes us bad...thinking we are the best and smartest we may rule this world but who really says that we arent being controlled by something else in this world? DOlphins have the capacity to be as smart if not smarter then us. So who's to say that they arnt the smartest? It's just something that will never stop it's been going on forever and it wont stop anytime soon.
 
Exactly, Jordan, couldn't have said it better myself. *applauds*

And blue, you're right about the survival issue. We *could* survive without meat, but it would be incredibly hard and cause even more suffering and death than if we continued to produce and consume as much meat as we do today. Throughout the ages some civilizations have relied on meat more than anything else for survival, and even though many civilizations eat it today for convenience, it's still plays an extremely vital rule in keeping the earth fed. Animals are ours to control, but they are also ours to look after. I hate to be clich?, but with great power comes great responsibility. We could do better than we're doing now, but, believe me, we could do MUCH worse.
 
But the thing is with so many problems in this world and the way america is so shltered. Americans dont really see whats going on and are blined by the fact this is a powerfull country but dont relize that this is only part of a handfull on contries that have the advancments that we do at the moment. So it's just natural to get caught up in something as trvial as this and not reliving what the real problems is, only when humans can stop fighting amongest ourself will we then be able to fix the world, and try to right all that we have brought to chaos.
 
Indeed. Those of us who actually care either lack the power or the ability to help, but it's not that everyone in power is entirely disinterested in aiding the rest of the world, though. We have a lot of unresolved problems here at home...I do advocate more aid to struggling countries, though, and I hope that we, as arguably the greatest nation on earth, will realize just how much power to help we have and act upon it. The blame doesn't rest on one person or country, though...many, many people are at fault.
 
Who's to say they are? Intelligence itself is a strong tool, but what's the point if you do nothing with it? Humans have put their knowledge to work, creating things to help them in their life. Though we won't know what the other creatures of this world are capable of for a long time coming, we do know that we're advancing very far on our own.

Oh, thank you Chairman Kaga, hehe...
 
Humans have put their knowledge to evil to you DO know that right? Wars, famies, death of whole races it's a double edged sword either way you look at it someone will lose. We advance things have to be built, animals lose their food, land, life all in the name of human advacment. We dont advanced we die. Either way someone will lose
 
Right again Jordan XP

Some beings are semi-sentient, but they lack the ability to feel anything other than feelings guided by instinct. We. however, can feel emotion, and think in terms of concepts through language...animals know nothing of that; their only desire is to live their life until they die.

So until I get beaten at chess by a chicken, I think I'll still eat them XP
 
But then with the knowledge that we have shouldent we put that to use and stop this? Jordan says we have knowledge but if we really did would the world be in such shape is it currently is? Would people be dying? Would animals be suffering? No it's becuse of that knowledge that we harm ourselfs and our world so thinking at it from a diffrent view is....we are the dumb ones animals and earth lived in peace for millions ofyears before we came and then human "knowledge" which we say "helps" us acutally makes more problems then if we were never here. Just remember this saying
" Other then this all human knowledge false".
 
We, as humans, cannot collectively put our abilities to good use. You can't generalize our entire race because there are both benevolent and malevolent people among us. We do have the ability to do good, but we cannot because of the corrupted individuals in our race. Knowledge is just as good as it is evil, but that is the price we pay for being who we are. If one chooses to use their knowledge for good, that's an advancement worth making. Since we're not all evil, not all our knowledge is too.
 
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But then with the knowledge that we have shouldent we put that to use and stop this? Jordan says we have knowledge but if we really did would the world be in such shape is it currently is? Would people be dying? Would animals be suffering? No it's becuse of that knowledge that we harm ourselfs and our world so thinking at it from a diffrent view is....we are the dumb ones animals and earth lived in peace for millions ofyears before we came and then human "knowledge" which we say "helps" us acutally makes more problems then if we were never here. Just remember this saying
" Other then this all human knowledge false".
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You said the answer yourself. One way or another, everyone will suffer. Humans are smart, but we are not the almighty. We have knowledge, but we can't bring about miracles. There are good people in this world as well, not just those that use their gift for evil. Through constant study, we're trying our best to bring about peace in the world. There will always be confrontations, but we can try our best to minimize them to a managable level.
 
100marios said:
You said the answer yourself. One way or another, everyone will suffer. Humans are smart, but we are not the almighty. We have knowledge, but we can't bring about miracles. There are good people in this world as well, not just those that use their gift for evil. Through constant study, we're trying our best to bring about peace in the world. There will always be confrontations, but we can try our best to minimize them to a managable level.
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So it's settled then? Humans are smart but were not god. We CAN TRY to minimze the pain amoung the world and advance ourselfs as much as we can with as little death as we can, but there are corrupted people who will try and sway us. Still as long as we keep the end product in sight suffering will be kept to a minimum? Good Ending
 
Umm, what happened to the chickens? Okay, we all agree mankind messed up, americans are greedy (a lot anyways) and TV is stupid (okay, maybe not the last one) Yeah, lets all start a chicken club and save the chickens! We'll all write the the american government and convince them! I really don't like the some of american government, even if it is a lot better than most all the other countries governments out there. America thinks it is the boss of the world, when it isn't at all. It might have power but it will fall one day. Save the chickens!
 
blue said:
So it's settled then? Humans are smart but were not god. We CAN TRY to minimze the pain amoung the world and advance ourselfs as much as we can with as little death as we can, but there are corrupted people who will try and sway us. Still as long as we keep the end product in sight suffering will be kept to a minimum? Good Ending
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That's the idea, hehe...

Wow, we did sort of go off-topic a bit.
We went from chickens, to the fate of the world...
Yeah, kind of off-topic, hehe.
 
You know Pokedragonfire
that really added nothing and kinda scrwed with the ending I had written for this
-_-;;...but hey we allready know the answer to this
This is the best-off topic topic ever...we went from chickes to fate of the world to fate of mankind to evils of knowledge to restrait of power
 

*cough* Very.. heated.. debate.. *cough*

Ugh... i've seen worse then this, but it still makes me very upset and disgusted just to see Chickens in this situation. ><

This is one of the most heated debates - Slaughtery/Hunting/Animal Abuse/Animal Testing. Just goes to show what horrible creatures we are. One of the things i loath most in this world is Animal abuse. I get SO angry about it.

Pokedragonfire, i have absoloutley nothing against you, i feel just the same whether it's cruelty to Chickens or Cruelty to Dogs any animal counts. It still means something to me. You don't deserve people to be nasty to you just cause you care. It's just the fact that there are much, much worse things happening to Animals around the world.

I've seen alot of cases of Animal abuse, and the horrible things that happen in this world.

Korea - Dog Slaughtery:

I remember reading a artical on the vile things that happen to Dogs in places like Korea. There was one dogs story. I can remember it i think. This young dog one day in it's home in Korea managed to escape through it's owners front door. It ran just a few roads away, and was caught by a group of slaughters, and taken straight to the area were the Dogs were kept, it was abit like a small warehouse. There was wire around the area. Often there were so many dogs there they would be piled on top of each other, so cramped they couldn't walk one step. These dogs are caught, sold, given, bought to the slaughters who kill these dogs for meat. Koreans eat Dog, which in our Western world would be thought of as disgusting, and cruel, since the relationship between Humans and Dogs is one different to Chickens and other meat we normally eat, and therefore shocking to think of killing the animal that lives side by side of humans. Anyway millions of dogs are slaughtered each year in Korea, and this one dog watched it's fellow canines be shot, held by their back legs, thrown, strangled, hit with wooded planks so that they were able to easily kill the dog, ripped to pieces....i have seen pictures, and it makes you feel so sick, i would easily start crying if i was forced to look at these blood stained evil photos.

In other cases a Animal Welfare team found a disguised Lorry with wooden floorboards in the back, and underneath loads of Dogs, piled on top of each other, some suffocated or squished, dead dogs on alive ones, just imagine that picture. They were being transported secretly because the slaughters were hiding them.

Adidas - Kanaroo Slaughtery.

Then there's Adidas, the sports company. They slaughter millions of Kanagroos each year for their skin, which they use for their posh football boots. They could easily use other materials for the boots but no, they kill kangaroos. If you live in England you may have heard of Football hero David Beckam. He wears Football boots mad of innocent Kangaroo hide, just so he can play darn football. Adidas have teams that kill Kangaroos in the outback, normally shooting them, and in many cases they will shoot a female kangaroo with a young Joey in her pouch, and after they've shot the mom they either shoot the joey or leave it to die in the outback. Adidas have no proper reason to kill these animals, and there has been alot of issues between them and Animal campaigns allthough they are still doing it.

Killing off our living creatures -

Then there's us humans who have cause some animals to become endangered. Whales killed for their meat and skin, Whale hunting's still going on and slowly Whales numbers are dwindling. Siberian Tigers were shot for their fur, and now they are incredibly endanger. In my opinion, i think it wouldn't matter if a few people died just because they weren't alowed to get their hands on Whale meat, because we don't deserve to rule this world. We are destroying it, like stupid locusts. We are agressive, selfish animals, damaging our world, and killing innocent creatures. Frankly i'm ashamed to be human. Laugh at me all you want.

Every animal under the sun deserves to have a chance to live their life, we are all born for a reason, to live, and no matter what creature you are, we all are equal. So have a heart Blue, and stop acting as if yours is made of stone. Because no matter what there is no exuse for Animal Cruelty. Want to see some dead dogs cut all over in pools of blood? Maybe i should show you and then maybe you'll change your mind.
 
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