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E3 expectations?

I wouldn't necessarily take Popplio learning a Fairy-type move as conclusive evidence that it will eventually become Water/Fairy-type. Plenty of Pokemon (including starters) learn different types of moves in their early stages that aren't relative to their typing, Chespin can learn Rollout which is a Rock-type move for example. Disarming Voice is a move that can be learnt by several non Fairy-type Pokemon, so it can't really be proven just yet.
 
Blue said:
I wouldn't necessarily take Popplio learning a Fairy-type move as conclusive evidence that it will eventually become Water/Fairy-type. Plenty of Pokemon (including starters) learn different types of moves in their early stages that aren't relative to their typing, Chespin can learn Rollout which is a Rock-type move for example. Also, Disarming Voice is a move that can be learnt by several non Fairy-type Pokemon which wouldn't really confirm much either.
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I recall the Grass/Rock speculation for Chespin, and while this reveal of Disarming Voice has fueled the Water/Fairy Popplio theory up again I'm still believing it'll end up with something different.
 
James169 said:

Really? Making things less of a hassle is a bad thing? You must hate vehicles, wheels on suitcases, tin openers, just anything that isn't a pain in the arse.
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When things are TOO easy it becomes a bad thing for those who actually care about the difficulty in their games since some people do appreciate at least somewhat of a challenge when they play. If part of that challenge is trying to keep tabs on the typing of Pokemon then so be it. I'm not sure if this is as bad as the boosted exp share from 6th gen but it's still another step in making things too easy if you ask me. Those are poor examples since unlike video games people don't generally look to challenge themselves irl when it comes getting from point a to point b, moving their luggage around or opening cans lol.

Maybe I'll start warming up to the idea as the generations keep adding more Pokemon but right now I still think it's unnecessary.
 
BlackSwordsman93 said:
When things are TOO easy it becomes a bad thing for those who actually care about the difficulty in their games since some people do appreciate at least somewhat of a challenge when they play. If part of that challenge is trying to keep tabs on the typing of Pokemon then so be it. I'm not sure if this is as bad as the boosted exp share from 6th gen but it's still another step in making things too easy if you ask me. Those are poor examples since unlike video games people don't generally look to challenge themselves irl when it comes getting from point a to point b, moving their luggage around or opening cans lol.

Maybe I'll start warming up to the idea as the generations keep adding more Pokemon but right now I still think it's unnecessary.
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All they are doing is saving people time and effort.
If you don't like it you don't have to use it, it's not forced on you at all.

Part of the perceived lack of difficulty in the games is because you aren't a young child any more, the game will NEVER have the same feel of difficulty as it did the first time you played because you now know all the mechanics and are older, cleverer, etc.
 
Being really bad at strategy, I'm actually quite happy that there is this effectiveness-thing during the battles. I've been playing Pokémon for 20 years, and I've never been able to memorise the types tables. Maybe we'll be able to disable this feature, who knows? But still I'm quite happy that they added that.

But other than that, I'm really hyped for the game in itself! The region looks nice, the new Pokémons look great (yup, even Yungoos), and I can't wait to learn more! But I wish we had learnt the US names for Iwanko and Nekkoala..
 
Nath74K said:
Being really bad at strategy, I'm actually quite happy that there is this effectiveness-thing during the battles. I've been playing Pokémon for 20 years, and I've never been able to memorise the types tables. Maybe we'll be able to disable this feature, who knows? But still I'm quite happy that they added that.

But other than that, I'm really hyped for the game in itself! The region looks nice, the new Pokémons look great (yup, even Yungoos), and I can't wait to learn more! But I wish we had learnt the US names for Iwanko and Nekkoala..
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I'm surprised that they have yet to officially reveal those two on the official site. Maybe we'll see them later today, or tomorrow.
 
So Eevee was in the newest trailer. In all regions where Eevee is in the dex except for the Neo Unova dex, Eevee has gotten a new eeveelution. Chances are that the appearance of Eevee in Alola could be hinting at another eeveelution.
 
colours said:
Though I have to admit, it would certainly be a pleasing turn of events to have the first Fairy-type starter, if anything!
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It would be awesome indeed, especially because of that recent fake starter final evos leak that had a mermaid-like design for Popplio and I wouldn't mind if it turned out as something similar to that. To me, a mermaid would definitely suggest a Fairy-type since it's a mythical being and all.
 
colours said:
If it's true that Eevee is getting a new evolution, I wonder what type they would be going for next? oO
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If you look at all the Eeveelutions so far, they were all based on types classed as special in Gens 1-3 (even if Fairy existed back then it would have likely been special) and the only type remaining of those with no Eeveelution is Dragon so that's why many have been speculating Dragon.

But then, there's the chance we could just have Eevee and its line in the Dex for aesthetic reasons and we may not get a new Eeveelution as a result.
 
colours said:
If it's true that Eevee is getting a new evolution, I wonder what type they would be going for next? oO
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I'm hoping for Dragon so it could form a pair with Sylveon if we get only one eeveelution again. Fairy defeats Dragon just like Electric defeats Water which defeats Fire, Dark defeats Psychic, and Ice defeats Grass. Plus Dragon is our only former special type without an eeveelution.
 
I would to have a Dragon Eeveelution, but what I would like the most would be a normal type eeveelution!
 
colours said:
If it's true that Eevee is getting a new evolution, I wonder what type they would be going for next? oO
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Because Eevee's only appearance was to get KO'd, my first thought was that a Ghost type Eeveelution could be coming.
But it was probably just to show off Magearna's ability.
 
Is there more Sun & Moon info coming tomorrow and Thursday? Or was today everything?
 
It will be interesting to see what they announce tomorrow at the Pokemon GO one!
 
James169 said:
All they are doing is saving people time and effort.
If you don't like it you don't have to use it, it's not forced on you at all.

Part of the perceived lack of difficulty in the games is because you aren't a young child any more, the game will NEVER have the same feel of difficulty as it did the first time you played because you now know all the mechanics and are older, cleverer, etc.
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Unlike the boosted exp share this typing feature IS forced upon you since it states which moves are super effective when selecting your move and even with the exp share turned off the experience you get in battle has been increased from earlier gens. Hell you get exp just from catching a Pokemon now.

Of course older and more experienced players will feel more adept but there was still an undeniable drop off in difficulty for the 6th gen games. I don't know how you can deny this between being gifted Megas like Lucario and stones for your starter when you only have to face a handful of trainers in-game who have a mega themselves (not complaining about megas just the lack of opposition who use them), X&Y's Elite Four having less than 6 Pokemon for their team, getting one of the Lati twins in ORAS without having to catch it and all before you even get your fourth badge ect. Inb4 you just suggest not using those Pokemon. Doesn't change the fact that they're lowering the difficulty and holding your hand through these games more than ever these days.

Part of the reason the difficulty has decreased is because gamefreak are targeting a younger and more casual audience with their newer games. It's why they didn't include a battle frontier for the Hoenn remakes. In an interview about ORAS Junicha Masuda said this.

Q:Why wasn't the Battle Frontier in the remakes?

A:This question is connected with my previous answer. We didn't put the BF in ORAS for this very reason. Interviewer's note: In short he means that they didn't include the BF because only a very small part of the players would have fully appreciated and made use of this feature; nowadays players get bored and frustrated more easily and they aren't interested in things that are so demanding/challenging.
 
IcyIce said:
Here we go.... people bellyaching about the games becoming too simple. Can we please just get over that? Enjoy the new pokemon. Enjoy the new Region. Enjoy the Graphics. Enjoy the storyline. People complain in EVERY SINGLE GAME I play because they are making things simpler and I really hate the argument that people have to do homework or study something to enjoy a game. It takes the fun out of things.

Does everything have to be over complicated? For the most part. I never have problems choosing the wrong move, because for the most part I remember them all. I have trouble remembering that Dark is Immune to Psychic sometimes, but that's about it. I did have problems with Fairy when it first come out, but I have a better understanding of it now.
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Unfortunately, it is inevitable that people complain about the games becoming too simple, because they are getting simpler and easier. It is very possible to enjoy the new Pokemon, the new region, graphics and storyline, and still have gripes about the simplicity and/or difficulty.

I don't think it's about everything needing to be over complicated, but it is somewhat annoying to fans who actually want some sort a challenge, you know? I will say that people who have an issue with some of the new simplified mechanics (myself included) do have to remember the fact that the developers are trying to appeal to wider demographics and bigger audiences now more than ever. And because of that, mechanics and technicalities are going to become more and more simple. They want to make it so anyone could pick up Sun and Moon as their first Pokemon game and understand what they are doing pretty quickly.


That being said, I still hope this is a feature we can choose to disable or enable after the tutorial portion of the game is over. Convenience features such as this should be used at the player's discretion.
 
IcyIce said:
We might get more info tomorrow. And that might is a very big might. Tomorrow is supposed to be Pokemon Go and Zelda, but they could slip in another trailer or reveal more info.
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Any thoughts/ideas of what that info might be, if we get said info? I've been surprised by the amount of information we've been given thus far through the streams at E3. But very happy with it, nonetheless.
 
baceevee said:
Any thoughts/ideas of what that info might be, if we get said info? I've been surprised by the amount of information we've been given thus far through the streams at E3. But very happy with it, nonetheless.
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If we get anything. Maybe another Pokemon trailer. That is, at most, what I can see us possibly getting. It could give the English names for the dog and koala and possibly introduce 1 or 2 other pokemon. They have done this before, I think, but I am not 100% positive.

I was surprised that we got nothing that was revealed in Corocoro and that it was mainly all new info or a in depth look at what we already knew.
 
How amazing was that earlier though? I'm slightly late to the parade, but honestly the hype bus is real. There was definitely an element of frustration when the first Pokémon encountered was a Ledyba. I was literally just expecting them to say, that's all we've got time for today! But it was good to see a few new Pokémon in the end. How is one supposed to wait until November?
 
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