5th Gen Evolutions Discussion

[ManhattanTheStarr]

Hmmm, I guess you're right about that. Must have a Fushide in one of my teams~
And Surmonter, apparently I wasn't here when you said that. No need to act all smart about it. =/

 

[Surmonter]

Hmmm, I guess you're right about that. Must have a Fushide in one of my teams~
And Surmonter, apparently I wasn't here when you said that. No need to act all smart about it. =/

I wasn't acting smart, I was just saying that I said it before. o.o No need to add unnecessary tone to people's messages. =/

 

[ManhattanTheStarr]

I wasn't acting smart, I was just saying that I said it before. o.o No need to add unnecessary tone to people's messages. =/

OK, OK... I won't argue about it. Let's just leave it at that. :<>

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Well, to me, it seems like a good idea. I mean, look at Wooguru, beastly, correct? So why make it easy to obtain such a powerful Pokemon? That'd just make the game stupidly easy.

Yeah they wouldn't but they should have been around Metagross level to evolve at least...

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

Now, you see, my theory is that GF has come to realize that by the time you've reached the Elite 4, you're party is already stocked with the final forms of your game's most powerful non-legends. So, they want us to work a bit more to get to that stage, making the reward all the sweeter.

 

[Maruno]

Now, you see, my theory is that GF has come to realize that by the time you've reached the Elite 4, you're party is already stocked with the final forms of your game's most powerful non-legends. So, they want us to work a bit more to get to that stage, making the reward all the sweeter.

My theory, as I mentioned earlier, is that GF wanted to force people to use the new Pokémon, so they made them much stronger on purpose, and that the high evolution levels are something of a balance against their strength.

Pokémon is all about evolution, and it's pretty stupid to have half your species evolve only when you're near the end of the game. For the purists who don't look everything up on the Interweb before playing, they're just going to wind up frustrated that their Pokémon just aren't evolving.

The whole problem stems from one-upmanship.

 

[blue]

Well I was surprised to see that Meraruba evolves into Urugamosu at Level 59. Before that the highest was Level 55 (Dragonair to Dragonite)

 

[ManhattanTheStarr]

Well I was surprised to see that Meraruba evolves into Urugamosu at Level 59. Before that the highest was Level 55 (Dragonair to Dragonite)

For reals?
And these two:

Are only 1 level under that... level 54. O_O
But I'm sure there's some sort of reason for this. GF wouldn't make such ridiculous evolution levels for no reason. :x

 

[blue]

For reals?
And these two:

Are only 1 level under that... level 54. O_O
But I'm sure there's some sort of reason for this. GF wouldn't make such ridiculous evolution levels for no reason. :x

Yeah, I was going to mention them two aswell, I think after they evolve they will be two really strong flying types (hence the high level evolution)

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

My theory, as I mentioned earlier, is that GF wanted to force people to use the new Pokémon, so they made them much stronger on purpose, and that the high evolution levels are something of a balance against their strength.

Pokémon is all about evolution, and it's pretty stupid to have half your species evolve only when you're near the end of the game. For the purists who don't look everything up on the Interweb before playing, they're just going to wind up frustrated that their Pokémon just aren't evolving.

The whole problem stems from one-upmanship.

The same theory could apply to Gen IV which gave us such abominations at Rhyperior, Magmortar, and Magnezone who were made to be "Top-of-the-game" Pokemon, and yet, they were pretty easy to obtain. Atleast Gen V actually has you working for your powerhouses instead of "Let me trade a Magmar from my friend's game with a Magmizer so I can have Magmortar before the E4 LOL".

And for the people who aren't aware of B/W at all, I don't see the high evolution levels as such a frustration for them as more of a well-earned prize for training their Pokemon so diligently.

Basically, Gen V has raised the bar to more of a "Dragonite" standard, if you will. Back in Gen 1 and 2, if you wanted one of the game's most powerful Pokemon, Dragonite, you had to work extra hard, but the pay-off was great. However, considering the amount of work you'd have to put into it, a lot of gamers shrugged it off or just traded for Dragonite. NOW, a good 70% of the Gen V Pokemon are close to this standard, making the effort more of a basic thing than a "this is abnormally hard, wtf?!!!?!?!" thing.

 

[ManhattanTheStarr]

The same theory could apply to Gen IV which gave us such abominations at Rhyperior, Magmortar, and Magnezone who were made to be "Top-of-the-game" Pokemon, and yet, they were pretty easy to obtain. Atleast Gen V actually has you working for your powerhouses instead of "Let me trade a Magmar from my friend's game with a Magmizer so I can have Magmortar before the E4 LOL".

And for the people who aren't aware of B/W at all, I don't see the high evolution levels as such a frustration for them as more of a well-earned prize for training their Pokemon so diligently.

Basically, Gen V has raised the bar to more of a "Dragonite" standard, if you will. Back in Gen 1 and 2, if you wanted one of the game's most powerful Pokemon, Dragonite, you had to work extra hard, but the pay-off was great. However, considering the amount of work you'd have to put into it, a lot of gamers shrugged it off or just traded for Dragonite. NOW, a good 70% of the Gen V Pokemon are close to this standard, making the effort more of a basic thing than a "this is abnormally hard, wtf?!!!?!?!" thing.

Lol, true. :P
But I found it amazing when I saw some footage of Black where someone was trying to capture Reshiram, and they STILL had an unevolved Washibon. O_o Isn't the legendary encounter AFTER the E4?

But I think I might like this... it'll make the story seem... longer when you're halfway through the story and some of your Pokes aren't fully evolved. :3
I don't know why... but I always felt kinda empty whenever my teams became fully evolved. =/

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Evolving my dragonite and Typloshion was a drag but I did feel like it was rewarding for me so Maybe it is good that they made them evolve at a high level :)

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

Exactly =) Glad my point got across to a few people ^_^ And, Starr, I feel the same way when my entire team is fully evolved. Kinda leaves you with that feeling of, "Ok, what now? Lv.100...eh"

 

[BigMac]

everything should be evo by stone or level

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

everything should be evo by stone or level

Yeah it's kind of annoying to have to trade to get gigagaia (the rock pokemon with the four legs that reminds me of Metagross+Heatran+Golem)

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

IMO, the reintroduction of trades to evolve is kinda welcome to me. Except for Feebas. Me no likey that.

 

[PlatinumDude]

IMO, the reintroduction of trades to evolve is kinda welcome to me. Except for Feebas. Me no likey that.

Actually, Feebas evolving by trade is a godsend. It was a pain to increase its Beauty condition back in Gen III and IV. Trading a Pokemon is easier and much more convenient than raising its stats, IMO.

 

[Spikey-Eared Pichu]

I know, I know, but raising Feebas's Beauty has always been its novelty. Now it's no different than Seadra. Just slap on a hold item, trade, and voila! you have a Milotic. Makes it less worth it now =(

 

[Livewire]

I know, I know, but raising Feebas's Beauty has always been its novelty. Now it's no different than Seadra. Just slap on a hold item, trade, and voila! you have a Milotic. Makes it less worth it now =(

I agree it was feebas' sole claim to fame, which made it unique, but it was such a paaaiiinnn. :/ As long as I get my pretty Milotic, I'm happy. :)

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I agree it was feebas' sole claim to fame, which made it unique, but it was such a paaaiiinnn. :/ As long as I get my pretty Milotic, I'm happy. :)

yeah it was...I failed to up the beauty on two feebas' I'm glad I succeeded on my third try (actually it was my fourth my first was a success but I lost that Milotic...) on Emerald...I haven't done so for gen 4 yet...