G/S Remake for Special? Should it happen?

[Clover Cat]

But Heartswap is more of a move, temporarily switching stat damages (or in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, temporarily switches the body of the user with another player). I was expecting to see Manaphy in Sinnoh (from what happened in Fiore).

See, they could say Manaphy originally came from or was brought to Sinnoh, but came to Johto in the course of events in the HG/SS arc. Whatever they may be.

I was just thinking what reasons would Gold have to go to Sinnoh? I was just thinking since Professor Elm traveled too Sinnoh in the Diamond and Pearl arc then he could have been the one who came across Manaphy's egg and takes it back to Johto and somehow gives it to Gold. Anyway if Manaphy appears in the HGSS arc 'Heartswap' move could work if it let's Gold switch bodies with temporarily with one of his Pokemon though, but what reason would he need to do it for though see how has Pokemon feel or to feel how it is like being a Pokemon if so what Pokemon would most likely switch bodies with? If Latias, Latios, and Mewtwo are brought into the manga they could play a minor role where if all of the Legendary Pokemon come together to stop an sinister force of some sort.

Though the I was wondering in general how would the word's 'heart' and 'soul' connect with Gold and Silver respectively as it relates to the tell of Ho-Oh and Lugia since the writers incoporated the words 'fire' and 'leaf' with Red and Green in the FRLG arc? The legend said that Ho-Oh leaves the Brass Tower to search and find a trainer pure of heart though is there any human without flaws meaning person most likely does not have to be perfect, but have a good heart. Anyway Lugia leave the Brass Tower to goes to leave deep in depth of Whirl Island which could be related 'soul' because Lugia the emboidment of the sea.

Wait, Elm comes to Sinnoh in the games? When? I thought that was only with Prof. Oak. And I have this image of Manaphy using Heartswap on Silver and Gold and they switch bodies. XD -shot for idea- The fact that you might be able to get Mewtwo in the games might mean his return in Pokespe. Did he get caught by Sird or not? If not, what the heck has he been doing? And I can't see Latias/Latios coming back, since they had that whole scene in Emerald where they say goodbye. Why bring them back at this point?

Oh, the legends said that? Then maybe that's what happens. But I don't know...At the end of the G/S/C arc the narration goes, "The two legendary birds returned to their towers and were never seen again." or something along those lines. Although they brought Raikou back, and the dogs were supposed to stay away along with the birds, so...I still want to see Manaphy. :3

 

[Mika555]

See, they could say Manaphy originally came from or was brought to Sinnoh, but came to Johto in the course of events in the HG/SS arc. Whatever they may be.

Wait, Elm comes to Sinnoh in the games? When? I thought that was only with Prof. Oak. And I have this image of Manaphy using Heartswap on Silver and Gold and they switch bodies. XD -shot for idea- The fact that you might be able to get Mewtwo in the games might mean his return in Pokespe. Did he get caught by Sird or not? If not, what the heck has he been doing? And I can't see Latias/Latios coming back, since they had that whole scene in Emerald where they say goodbye. Why bring them back at this point?

Oh, the legends said that? Then maybe that's what happens. But I don't know...At the end of the G/S/C arc the narration goes, "The two legendary birds returned to their towers and were never seen again." or something along those lines. Although they brought Raikou back, and the dogs were supposed to stay away along with the birds, so...I still want to see Manaphy. :3

I meant to say that Professor Elm appear in Pokemon Special at a press conference something like that Chapter 355 'Vs Unown II'. Maybe something drastic will happen again in Pokemon that cause Ho-oh and Lugia to leave the Brass and Tin Tower respectively. That is a brilliant idea if Gold and Silver switch bodies maybe they will get to know more about each other that way, however we know more about Silver than we do about Gold though I think it is still a good idea and they might elaborate more on what happen to Silver's mother. They could also mention something about Gold's father some possible storylines being that Gold's father died, that he is a illegitimate child, or parent got divorce. Now you mention something about Crystal meeting up with Euisine in another thread I think that might work somehow though I have to see what role if any will Euisine play in the extended storyline of HGSS. I would think that the Johto dex holders would be together through most of the story though, but it is possible for these events to occur in a couple of chapters though depending how the arc will be. I am not sure about Mewtwo returning maybe he will, but we will have to see? If he gets caught by Sird, she might brainwash him to do her evil work.

 

[Clover Cat]

I meant to say that Professor Elm appear in Pokemon Special at a press conference something like that Chapter 355 'Vs Unown II'. Maybe something drastic will happen again in Pokemon that cause Ho-oh and Lugia to leave the Brass and Tin Tower respectively. That is a brilliant idea if Gold and Silver switch bodies maybe they will get to know more about each other that way, however we know more about Silver than we do about Gold though I think it is still a good idea and they might elaborate more on what happen to Silver's mother. They could also mention something about Gold's father some possible storylines being that Gold's father died, that he is a illegitimate child, or parent got divorce. Now you mention something about Crystal meeting up with Euisine in another thread I think that might work somehow though I have to see what role if any will Euisine play in the extended storyline of HGSS. I would think that the Johto dex holders would be together through most of the story though, but it is possible for these events to occur in a couple of chapters though depending how the arc will be. I am not sure about Mewtwo returning maybe he will, but we will have to see? If he gets caught by Sird, she might brainwash him to do her evil work.

OH. Yeah, maybe...And lol, I think the Preciousmetalshippers would love that. :3 But yeah, maybe some event happens and Silver realizes something about Gold's father...Like...Who else do we know who gambles and can use a billiard cue?...I don't have a clue. ^^;
Yeah, I guess. I can see him coming to a BF like area, if there is one in the game. (Although, you know, since I love Mangaquestshipping...>.>) And I just want to see them travel together, if only for a while. I would love that. XD
I honestly think that Mewtwo is a sort of back up plot device for future chapters/arcs/whatever. That way, if Sird is somehow decided as the main villain in HG/SS, they can say that Mewtwo WAS caught by her at the end of FR/LG. Although I don't want to see him be evil anymore...D8

 

[Mika555]

OH. Yeah, maybe...And lol, I think the Preciousmetalshippers would love that. :3 But yeah, maybe some event happens and Silver realizes something about Gold's father...Like...Who else do we know who gambles and can use a billiard cue?...I don't have a clue. ^^;

Very funny.:laugh: I think they would love that too. Anyway it makes me wonder want kind of person Gold's father was. Maybe he uses he could have been a business tycoon and his mind was clouded with so much on wealth, power, and money or something like that and he let it get to his head, and it lead him to his death is somwhere else and the manison they live in was burned as well and so was the money, but I am not saying that he did not have a good side though. I am just saying that I suspect his father to have flaws. Gold and his mother was the only ones that have survive the fire everyone else died or were they? Let say that the fire was start intentionally by someone and it is reveal later in the arc by who the cooporate is. Though his father was believe to have died from the fire and is somewhere else but feels shame and regrets. That a possible backstory I can think of it is probably think of at the moment.

Yeah, I guess. I can see him coming to a BF like area, if there is one in the game. (Although, you know, since I love Mangaquestshipping...>.>) And I just want to see them travel together, if only for a while. I would love that. XD

I am really looking foward to see the Johto dex holders when they meet up with each other. I can imagine that being humor, drama, and tragedy in this arc which would make it epic.

I honestly think that Mewtwo is a sort of back up plot device for future chapters/arcs/whatever. That way, if Sird is somehow decided as the main villain in HG/SS, they can say that Mewtwo WAS caught by her at the end of FR/LG. Although I don't want to see him be evil anymore...D8

They could make Sird the main villain. I can totally see that happening. I want who her underlings will be?

 

[Clover Cat]

Very funny.:laugh: I think they would love that too. Anyway it makes me wonder want kind of person Gold's father was. Maybe he uses he could have been a business tycoon and his mind was clouded with so much on wealth, power, and money or something like that and he let it get to his head, and it lead him to his death is somwhere else and the manison they live in was burned as well and so was the money, but I am not saying that he did not have a good side though. I am just saying that I suspect his father to have flaws. Gold and his mother was the only ones that have survive the fire everyone else died or were they? Let say that the fire was start intentionally by someone and it is reveal later in the arc by who the cooporate is. Though his father was believe to have died from the fire and is somewhere else but feels shame and regrets. That a possible backstory I can think of it is probably think of at the moment.

I think that maybe Gold's father had some sort of flaws, yeah. It would explain why Gold's personality is the one we know and love. XD (Or I love, anyway. :3) Did they ever show the underground of Goldenrod City in the manga? Maybe he was a black market waiter there, or something like that, if they didn't. I don't remember seeing something like that...

I am really looking foward to see the Johto dex holders when they meet up with each other. I can imagine that being humor, drama, and tragedy in this arc which would make it epic.

Hohoho, you're not the only one. ^^ And this arc will be epic no matter what they do. *Fangirliness* <333

They could make Sird the main villain. I can totally see that happening. I want who her underlings will be?

Maybe TR new members that Giovanni abandoned? I don't really have any ideas for that...Perhaps Lance would return? Yeah, I wish. XD

 

[MC Blaze]

Hell yeah! more Gold! GSC wasn´t my facorite arc but it was nice, I just hope they just change Kris´ outfit to match Soul´s, that way they won´t need to change her.

 

[Mika555]

I think that maybe Gold's father had some sort of flaws, yeah. It would explain why Gold's personality is the one we know and love. XD (Or I love, anyway. :3) Did they ever show the underground of Goldenrod City in the manga? Maybe he was a black market waiter there, or something like that, if they didn't. I don't remember seeing something like that...


Hohoho, you're not the only one. ^^ And this arc will be epic no matter what they do. *Fangirliness* <333


Maybe TR new members that Giovanni abandoned? I don't really have any ideas for that...Perhaps Lance would return? Yeah, I wish. XD

Isn't a black market a place were illegal goods are brought and sold, but think it could be a possible idea. There are some other that I have thought of. I think that his father could have been a casino manager though that is too predictable. How about an economist of some sort? Though if they do mention Gold's fatherhis occuption could be something that we did not expect. I wonder if Manaphy appears in Johto will and switches Gold and Silver's bodies that when Crys is traveling with them that she would be getting confused. Then again I really do not like the idea of Gold and Silver having their bodies switch for the entire arc though. Do not get me wrong I like the idea of Gold and Silver switching bodies, but not for the entire arc. Manaphy probably will only decides to switch them back until they have learn about the deep meaning heart and soul. I can also see Sird as the main villian of the arc because at the end of the Emerald arc Crystal it is reveal that Guile Hideout who is known as Archie was given the armor by side and Crystal is probably searching for the culprit but no has no luck to the point where the HGSS arc beginning and it seems like Sird has some connection to Team Galatic as well but what is this connection. Is she just using Team Galatic and is going to end up betraying them and goes to Johto for some reason.

 

[Clover Cat]

Isn't a black market a place were illegal goods are brought and sold, but think it could be a possible idea. There are some other that I have thought of. I think that his father could have been a casino manager though that is too predictable. How about an economist of some sort? Though if they do mention Gold's fatherhis occuption could be something that we did not expect. I wonder if Manaphy appears in Johto will and switches Gold and Silver's bodies that when Crys is traveling with them that she would be getting confused. Then again I really do not like the idea of Gold and Silver having their bodies switch for the entire arc though. Do not get me wrong I like the idea of Gold and Silver switching bodies, but not for the entire arc. Manaphy probably will only decides to switch them back until they have learn about the deep meaning heart and soul. I can also see Sird as the main villian of the arc because at the end of the Emerald arc Crystal it is reveal that Guile Hideout who is known as Archie was given the armor by side and Crystal is probably searching for the culprit but no has no luck to the point where the HGSS arc beginning and it seems like Sird has some connection to Team Galatic as well but what is this connection. Is she just using Team Galatic and is going to end up betraying them and goes to Johto for some reason.

Well, yeah, it is. That's why I think that if Gold's father gambled, or something of that sense, he could have worked in the black market. Still, the only reason I brought it up was because I don't think the Goldenrod underground was used/talked about. Although I'm not entirely sure about that.

Oh no, even I don't think Kusaka wouldn't have them switch bodies for the entire arc. Maybe for a chapter something. And imagining it...LOL, emo moody Gold and playboy Silver. <33 -shot-

The whole Sird thing is really a possible future plot device, nothing else. If they use it, they do, and if they don't, they don't. I don't see Crystal looking for the culprit, though, unless they somehow tie up the D/P/Pt trio in HG/SS. Even then, they should already know about TG anyway, and said TG should be destroyed/eliminated/broken up by the end of the arc, so I don't think it would. A lot of people seem to think that Sird is actually Jupiter in disguise, although seeing her in scans, it doesn't really click for me. And if she DOES flee from TG, then why wouldn't she go to Hoenn? That's where the BF was. And Johto is even less likely because it's right next to Kanto, where the Sevii Islands are.

 

[Mika555]

Well, yeah, it is. That's why I think that if Gold's father gambled, or something of that sense, he could have worked in the black market. Still, the only reason I brought it up was because I don't think the Goldenrod underground was used/talked about. Although I'm not entirely sure about that.

Yes, that would be a good time to elaborate on Goldenrod underground and explain the story about Gold's father since he could use a back story.

Oh no, even I don't think Kusaka wouldn't have them switch bodies for the entire arc. Maybe for a chapter something. And imagining it...LOL, emo moody Gold and playboy Silver. <33 -shot-

Now that would be interesting to see though I can find that Silver would be ticked off at Gold if Gold does something that make him furious while their bodies are switch, but cannot lash back at him at the moment because he does not want to injury his own body. Though went they switch back it could be a different story.

The whole Sird thing is really a possible future plot device, nothing else. If they use it, they do, and if they don't, they don't. I don't see Crystal looking for the culprit, though, unless they somehow tie up the D/P/Pt trio in HG/SS. Even then, they should already know about TG anyway, and said TG should be destroyed/eliminated/broken up by the end of the arc, so I don't think it would. A lot of people seem to think that Sird is actually Jupiter in disguise, although seeing her in scans, it doesn't really click for me. And if she DOES flee from TG, then why wouldn't she go to Hoenn? That's where the BF was. And Johto is even less likely because it's right next to Kanto, where the Sevii Islands are.

Good question why would Sird have fleed to Hoenn, but maybe there is something in Johto that we do not know about will be in the games and the writers of the manga decides to use it as a reason of why Sird fleed to Johto instead of Hoenn if she will be used as a plot device. I am not sure maybe that Arceus event where Cynthia in the game go to the Shinto Ruins, which are located in the Ruins of Alpha and you either have to choose Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina could be incoporated in the arc somehow. Dialga is said to make time go rapidly or slowly, Palkia can warp space create alternate dimensions, and Giratina can control dimensions about time and space. Maybe this would have something to do with the Johto Dex Holders coming across the Sinnoh Dex Holders probably most likely about in the middle or towards the end of the arc, but I really do not know exactly how since we the DP arc has not finish and it never really explain yet about how the Platinum arc is connected with the DP arc, but I know that Platinum said that she was search for information about the Distortion World . Though I am trying to think of how it would tie to the time travel theory. Maybe if both time traveling and dimension traveling is involve it could tie into a possible plot for the HGSS arc.

 

[omega77]

It probably will happen. Maybe something involving Darkrai considering that Deoxys was in FRLG. I just hope they don't put Crys in that stupid outfit of Soul's.

 

[Mika555]

It probably will happen. Maybe something involving Darkrai considering that Deoxys was in FRLG. I just hope they don't put Crys in that stupid outfit of Soul's.

Well let's see Darkari's abilities were induce sleep and control dreams. So it has to happen at on the night when when the Johto Dex Holders are sleeping for Darkai's abilities though which the sleeping person to have nightmares. If Darkari appears than it is a possibility Cressilia could as well. Cressilia abilities is to bring peaceful dreams and heal emotion. Of course Cresslia could appear later than Darkari. If Sird, has gone to Sinnoh on New Moon Island and she could catch Darkrai and use it on the Johto Dex Holders as a way of attacking them use of course this is if Sird is used as another plot device, but they could use someone else as the main villain of the arc though that same tact could still be used though.

Also there is another thread to debate about whether Crys will wear the outfit or not. It is called 'What going to happen to Crys?', which is almost at the bottom of the page.

 

[Clover Cat]

Now that would be interesting to see though I can find that Silver would be ticked off at Gold if Gold does something that make him furious while their bodies are switch, but cannot lash back at him at the moment because he does not want to injury his own body. Though went they switch back it could be a different story.

Lol, that scenario would be hilarious. XD Crystal might try to help them get back to normal, and then she and Silver then find out something about Gold's...Past? Father? Anyway, they find SOMETHING out when Silver is in Gold's body. Lol.

Good question why would Sird have fleed to Hoenn, but maybe there is something in Johto that we do not know about will be in the games and the writers of the manga decides to use it as a reason of why Sird fleed to Johto instead of Hoenn if she will be used as a plot device. I am not sure maybe that Arceus event where Cynthia in the game go to the Shinto Ruins, which are located in the Ruins of Alpha and you either have to choose Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina could be incoporated in the arc somehow. Dialga is said to make time go rapidly or slowly, Palkia can warp space create alternate dimensions, and Giratina can control dimensions about time and space. Maybe this would have something to do with the Johto Dex Holders coming across the Sinnoh Dex Holders probably most likely about in the middle or towards the end of the arc, but I really do not know exactly how since we the DP arc has not finish and it never really explain yet about how the Platinum arc is connected with the DP arc, but I know that Platinum said that she was search for information about the Distortion World . Though I am trying to think of how it would tie to the time travel theory. Maybe if both time traveling and dimension traveling is involve it could tie into a possible plot for the HGSS arc.

I don't think the Dragons would, actually. Assuming that Dialga/Palkia would appear in D/P and Giratina would probably appear in Platinum (Since they're the main legendaries in those arcs), I don't know why they would be brought to HG/SS. Maybe Arceus? But yeah, I'd love to see how the authors would try to incorporate a God-like Pokemon into the storyline...

Well let's see Darkari's abilities were induce sleep and control dreams. So it has to happen at on the night when when the Johto Dex Holders are sleeping for Darkai's abilities though which the sleeping person to have nightmares. If Darkari appears than it is a possibility Cressilia could as well. Cressilia abilities is to bring peaceful dreams and heal emotion. Of course Cresslia could appear later than Darkari. If Sird, has gone to Sinnoh on New Moon Island and she could catch Darkrai and use it on the Johto Dex Holders as a way of attacking them use of course this is if Sird is used as another plot device, but they could use someone else as the main villain of the arc though that same tact could still be used though.

I can see Darkrai coming to HG/SS...It didn't show up when Dia and co. were in Canalave, so unless it makes a crash appearance in Platinum, I think it could become involved in the story. Same with Cresselia. And honestly, I want to know Sird's motivation for capturing legendaries and giving Archie help in Emerald. They haven't brought that up either. Actually, while we're talking about legendaries, just how many are there left to appear? I lost track...

 

[Sleepwalker]

HGSS announced Groudon and Kyogre in the games. So the arc might follow a little about that. Possibly the return of Ruby and Sapphire through that.
And Arceus has an event in the new Shinto Ruins, so there may also be a connection with that too.

 

[Mika555]

Lol, that scenario would be hilarious. XD Crystal might try to help them get back to normal, and then she and Silver then find out something about Gold's...Past? Father? Anyway, they find SOMETHING out when Silver is in Gold's body. Lol.



I don't think the Dragons would, actually. Assuming that Dialga/Palkia would appear in D/P and Giratina would probably appear in Platinum (Since they're the main legendaries in those arcs), I don't know why they would be brought to HG/SS. Maybe Arceus? But yeah, I'd love to see how the authors would try to incorporate a God-like Pokemon into the storyline...

I do not mean that they will play an important role and I am thinking that their role would be minor in the HGSS arc. I was just saying that since Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina appear in that Arceus Event, which could be an adaption of a possible plot of the storyline. The ruins that Cynthia was in the game Shinto Ruins, which is a part of the ruins of Alpha is considered to be a well known religion that is practice in Japan. So let's say they after they go back in time for ten years in a time warp that they go back farther than that and finally lands back in the time where the Ruins of Alpha were no longer ruins. here is a possible purpse Notched-Ear Pichu is from the past and is met in Ilex Forest by Celebi's Shrine when the player has the Pikachu-Colored Pichu. So what if the Notched-Ear Pichu was sent to the future to get help to stop some sort of sinister force, but they do not know what she is trying to tell them since most of the dex holders cannot understand Pokemon language except Yellow. Also I just thought about the fact that if Sird is made the main villian then she could follow them into the past and noboby suspects it at the moment.

I can see Darkrai coming to HG/SS...It didn't show up when Dia and co. were in Canalave, so unless it makes a crash appearance in Platinum, I think it could become involved in the story. Same with Cresselia. And honestly, I want to know Sird's motivation for capturing legendaries and giving Archie help in Emerald. They haven't brought that up either. Actually, while we're talking about legendaries, just how many are there left to appear? I lost track...

Yes I want to know her reason for that as well I hope the Pokemon Special writers explain it. Also it is seems that Sird is very knowledgeable on Sinnoh myths.

HGSS announced Groudon and Kyogre in the games. So the arc might follow a little about that. Possibly the return of Ruby and Sapphire through that.
And Arceus has an event in the new Shinto Ruins, so there may also be a connection with that too.

I do not know about Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza appearing in Johto, but we will see though I think there is a good chance that the Arceus event could be adapted as a possible plotline in the HGSS arc.

 

[Clover Cat]

I do not mean that they will play an important role and I am thinking that their role would be minor in the HGSS arc. I was just saying that since Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina appear in that Arceus Event, which could be an adaption of a possible plot of the storyline. The ruins that Cynthia was in the game Shinto Ruins, which is a part of the ruins of Alpha is considered to be a well known religion that is practice in Japan. So let's say they after they go back in time for ten years in a time warp that they go back farther than that and finally lands back in the time where the Ruins of Alpha were no longer ruins. here is a possible purpse Notched-Ear Pichu is from the past and is met in Ilex Forest by Celebi's Shrine when the player has the Pikachu-Colored Pichu. So what if the Notched-Ear Pichu was sent to the future to get help to stop some sort of sinister force, but they do not know what she is trying to tell them since most of the dex holders cannot understand Pokemon language except Yellow. Also I just thought about the fact that if Sird is made the main villian then she could follow them into the past and noboby suspects it at the moment.

Yeah, but they wouldn't make a real appearance. Although I agree that the Shinto Ruins is definitely a possibility, seeing as it's a new area, and in the D/P arc the Alpha ruins are mentioned as well. But we still don't know what the NE Pichu does in the games, so that's open to theory.

Yes I want to know her reason for that as well I hope the Pokemon Special writers explain it. Also it is seems that Sird is very knowledgeable on Sinnoh myths.

How do you know Sird is knowledgeable in Sinnoh? Where does it say that?

I do not know about Groudon and Kyogre, and Rayquaza appearing in Johto, but we will see though I think there is a good chance that the Arceus event could be adapted as a possible plotline in the HGSS arc.

How the weather trio and the Dragon trio play a role in the plot depends on how you get them in the game. We'll probably have to wait for more information on that. Hopefully next month. :3

 

[Mika555]

Yeah, but they wouldn't make a real appearance. Although I agree that the Shinto Ruins is definitely a possibility, seeing as it's a new area, and in the D/P arc the Alph ruins are mentioned as well. But we still don't know what the NE Pichu does in the games, so that's open to theory.

Yes it is true that we do not know what the Notched-Ear Pichu does in the game. Here is my theory if the Johto dex Holders go to the Shinto Ruins in the HGSS arc the Notched-Ear Pichu uses a move that causes them to be sent back in time though Arceus and either Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina has something to do with it as well and the move that make could be a combination. I know for the event said that you have to choose one of the three dragons meaning that only one of the dragon trio will appear at the ruins, if so which one will the writer choose to appear this is assuming that time travel is involved. I though of something since Shinto is actually a religion in Japan and the new area is possibly named after that my theory is that the Shinto Ruins a could have been shrine where people of that time go and worship in the Ruins of Alph and which may have impact with the heart associated with Gold and soul associated with Silver. Of course the ancient people would not refer to them as the 'Ruins of Alph' because 'ruin' in term dwelling means demolish and abandon. They probably would call something along the line of the Kingdom of Alph, Alph Kingdom, or simply Alph. Also when was the Ruins of Alph built. I know it say that the Tanoby Ruins were built over 1,500 years ago though it is a pretty short period of time compare to when ancient civilization arosed in real life because 1,500 years ago in real life speak would be around 500 C.E. I hope the Ruins of Alph was at least built at least 2000 years old. Although their earth could be younger than our earth in age. I notice that the Brass Tower and Twin Tower was built 700 years ago so I want to know where were Ho-Oh and Lugia prior to that time. I have a theory since Ho-Oh is the 'guardian of the sky' and Lugia is the 'guardian of the sea' so may be their task watch over the sky and the sea.

How do you know Sird is knowledgeable in Sinnoh? Where does it say that?

How the weather trio and the Dragon trio play a role in the plot depends on how you get them in the game. We'll probably have to wait for more information on that. Hopefully next month. :3

Well in the second to last chapter Sird recited the Veilstone's Myths, which is part of the Sinnoh Myths in the second to last chapter. The follow quote that I have below is from bulbapedia.

Veilstone's Myth (Japanese: トバリの しんわ Tobari's Myth) is about a young swordsman.
A young man, callow and foolish in innocence, came to own a sword. With it, he smote Pokémon, which gave sustenance, with carefree abandon. Those not taken as food, he discarded, with no afterthought. The following year, no Pokémon appeared. Larders grew bare. The young man, seeking the missing Pokémon, journeyed afar. Long did he search. And far and wide, too, until one he did find. Asked he, "Why do you hide?" To which the Pokémon replied... "If you bear your sword to bring harm upon us, with claws and fangs, we will exact a toll. "From your kind we will take our toll, for it must be done. "Done it must be to guard ourselves and for it, I apologize." To the skies, the young man shouted his dismay. "In having found the sword, I have lost so much. "Gorged with power, I grew blind to Pokémon being alive. "I will never fall savage again. This sword I denounce and forsake. "I plead for forgiveness, for I was but a fool." So saying, the young man hurled the sword to the ground, snapping it. Seeing this, the Pokémon disappeared to a place beyond seeing...

I am just wondering how will the Johto dex Holders meet up with the Sinnoh dex Holder's though. Maybe I should wait to see at least the end of the Diamond and Pearl arc though I can only could to a more better conclusion after the Platinum arc is finish though the HGSS arc is probably going to be a magazine with the Platinum arc, but a different grade.

Spoiler:

Remember we do not exactly know if Platinum is trying to rescue Dia and Pearl, if Dia and Pearl are already or Battle Frontier, Dia and Pearl has gone on a trip away from Sinnoh.

By the way did we call the Ruin of Alph the 'Ruins of Alpha' which is exactly the correct spell because on bulbapedia it is spell 'Alph'.

 

[Mitchman]

Hmm. The hgss arc is defintely going to happen its not like it can't happen. I wonder how it will play with the rocket members now.

 

[Clover Cat]

Yes it is true that we do not know what the Notched-Ear Pichu does in the game. Here is my theory if the Johto dex Holders go to the Shinto Ruins in the HGSS arc the Notched-Ear Pichu uses a move that causes them to be sent back in time though Arceus and either Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina has something to do with it as well and the move that make could be a combination. I know for the event said that you have to choose one of the three dragons meaning that only one of the dragon trio will appear at the ruins, if so which one will the writer choose to appear this is assuming that time travel is involved. I though of something since Shinto is actually a religion in Japan and the new area is possibly named after that my theory is that the Shinto Ruins a could have been shrine where people of that time go and worship in the Ruins of Alph and which may have impact with the heart associated with Gold and soul associated with Silver. Of course the ancient people would not refer to them as the 'Ruins of Alph' because 'ruin' in term dwelling means demolish and abandon. They probably would call something along the line of the Kingdom of Alph, Alph Kingdom, or simply Alph. Also when was the Ruins of Alph built. I know it say that the Tanoby Ruins were built over 1,500 years ago though it is a pretty short period of time compare to when ancient civilization arosed in real life because 1,500 years ago in real life speak would be around 500 C.E. I hope the Ruins of Alph was at least built at least 2000 years old. Although their earth could be younger than our earth in age. I notice that the Brass Tower and Twin Tower was built 700 years ago so I want to know where were Ho-Oh and Lugia prior to that time. I have a theory since Ho-Oh is the 'guardian of the sky' and Lugia is the 'guardian of the sea' so may be their task watch over the sky and the sea.

O.O I don't really get how to do the math for time travel (My brain aches just thinking about it, ARRRGH. *Clutches head*) but that sounds pretty logical. Honestly, I'm hoping that Pokespe dumbs it down so I can grasp the basic concept for it. ^^;

Speaking of time travel...I was rereading Volume 15 at the local bookstore (Because I hate to buy it and then carry it around >.>) and you know that scene when Gold is sitting on top of the shrine? And how Crys goes, "G-G-Gold! How...?!" Gold just answers that he's really stubborn and how dare the others kill him off so easily (Love that scene, btw <3). But, see, why didn't they EVER explain how he got out of the time vortex? I mean, if Serebii did save him (Like it did with Pryce and Ruby) then why didn't they insert another page or something to show it "Exerting it's time power" or whatever? They did it for R/S, so why not for G/S/C? POSSIBLE PLOT POINT PERHAPS? 8D *Shot*

Well in the second to last chapter Sird recited the Veilstone's Myths, which is part of the Sinnoh Myths in the second to last chapter. The follow quote that I have below is from bulbapedia.

I am just wondering how will the Johto dex Holders meet up with the Sinnoh dex Holder's though. Maybe I should wait to see at least the end of the Diamond and Pearl arc though I can only could to a more better conclusion after the Platinum arc is finish though the HGSS arc is probably going to be a magazine with the Platinum arc, but a different grade.

Spoiler:

Remember we do not exactly know if Platinum is trying to rescue Dia and Pearl, if Dia and Pearl are already or Battle Frontier, Dia and Pearl has gone on a trip away from Sinnoh.

Ah, okay. That makes sense, with the FR/LG ending. So if she knows the myths...Does that mean that she IS going to appear in HG/SS with the Ruins? Hm...

Well, whether or not they'll appear will probably depend on the end of the Platinum arc. We'll have to wait another year or so for that.

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Yeah, but I think that it's fairly logical to assume Dia and Pearl are lost in the Other World and Platina is trying to save them. The way she wishes they were there seems like a good hint to me, and then she's trying to get information on the Other World, which I can't understand why she'd do if they were just on a trip or something. So, if Platina does manage to save them or Sird returns in Platinum, I think either of these could appear in HG/SS.

By the way did we call the Ruin of Alph the 'Ruins of Alpha' which is exactly the correct spell because on bulbapedia it is spell 'Alph'.

I think it's Alph. Although I'm not a very reliable source for information. ^^;

Hmm. The hgss arc is defintely going to happen its not like it can't happen. I wonder how it will play with the rocket members now.

Rocket members~TR returns~AND SILVER FINALLY MEETS GIOVANNI. :3 Yeah, if only...

 

[Mika555]

O.O I don't really get how to do the math for time travel (My brain aches just thinking about it, ARRRGH. *Clutches head*) but that sounds pretty logical. Honestly, I'm hoping that Pokespe dumbs it down so I can grasp the basic concept for it. ^^;

Speaking of time travel...I was rereading Volume 15 at the local bookstore (Because I hate to buy it and then carry it around >.>) and you know that scene when Gold is sitting on top of the shrine? And how Crys goes, "G-G-Gold! How...?!" Gold just answers that he's really stubborn and how dare the others kill him off so easily (Love that scene, btw <3). But, see, why didn't they EVER explain how he got out of the time vortex? I mean, if Serebii did save him (Like it did with Pryce and Ruby) then why didn't they insert another page or something to show it "Exerting it's time power" or whatever? They did it for R/S, so why not for G/S/C? POSSIBLE PLOT POINT PERHAPS? 8D *Shot*

I hope they can break the concept of time travel down as well. I do not know why the writers did not elaborate on how Gold got out of the time vortex maybe they will explain how Gold got out of the time vortex in the HGSS arc.

Ah, okay. That makes sense, with the FR/LG ending. So if she knows the myths...Does that mean that she IS going to appear in HG/SS with the Ruins? Hm...

Well, whether or not they'll appear will probably depend on the end of the Platinum arc. We'll have to wait another year or so for that.

That could be a possibility and could give Sird a reason to make an appearance in the ruins, but one will notice her present at first but after the time vortex is create she and her the Johto dex holders into it. There is a possiblity that she could have henchmen and henchwomen who will follow into the time vortex as well.

Spoiler:

Yeah, but I think that it's fairly logical to assume Dia and Pearl are lost in the Other World and Platina is trying to save them. The way she wishes they were there seems like a good hint to me, and then she's trying to get information on the Other World, which I can't understand why she'd do if they were just on a trip or something. So, if Platina does manage to save them or Sird returns in Platinum, I think either of these could appear in HG/SS.

You have a point about that. I pretty sure the writer will figure out a way to connect the Platinum arc with the HGSS arc. If Sird does in the Platinum arc I think that she would apppear towards the end of the Platinum arc, but I could be wrong. the Hoenn dex holder could show up in mid-way of the arc though I wonder how they are going to aid the Johto dex holder. Ruby use to have Celebi, but he released it near the end of the RS arc so how will they aid the Johto dex holder unless the Johto dex holder return to the prsent at near the end of the arc or if Ruby meets up with Celebi again and ask Celebi to take them where the Johto dex holder are. Also whether they include the Kanto dex holders is the writers choice. I wonder how the Sinnoh dex holder will react to meeting the other dex holders. I alway picture them meeting up with the dex holders from other region, and wonder what it would be like to interact with them.

I think it's Alph. Although I'm not a very reliable source for information. ^^;

Yes I think it is Alph as well. Sometimes I get similar words mix up with each other.

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What if some archeologists and was present at the Ruins of Alph and has recently made a discovery about found some artifects belonging to the ancient people and found some ancient text, and a skelton or at least a skull and it would be brought to the anthropologists for analysis of live there in the civilization which could be by the relate to the plot later on. Okay let's see if the Johto dex holders were to go back 10 years ago as you mention early in Johto would they meet will meeting their past selves affect but while they are ten years in the past they could also assuming that Pryce is ten years old then he would be willing to accompany them as, well however are reluctant to trust him at first. While they are ten years in the past I think that a previous discovery related to the Ruin of Alph should be mention as well. Though this all depends on if the writers will decide to include Pryce in the story. Then they could go back 150 years ago in Johto to witness the buring of the Tin and Brass Tower. Then they go back 700 years old when the Towers were built in honor of the relationship between humans and Pokemon. Then they go back farther then that until they land in the ancient civilization of Alph which could possibly be where the Notched-Ear Pichu is form or they can go back in time first get warp to a later time. Also I wonder if the writers would have Cynthia accompany the Johto dex Holder in a time vortex since she does appear in the Shinto Ruins in the game because they almost alway have supportive character accompany the dex holders on their journey.

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By the way I think it would be good if the writers incoporate the Pokéthlon would be incoprated in the HGSS arc somehow.

 

[Clover Cat]

*Is too lazy to quote and instead points at Mika's post* ^

Maybe Pryce comes back due to some Time/Spacial accident by Dialga/Palkia. And that's another thing, how does the time vortex relate to space in itself? If it's just "Time", as in a timestream or something, I could sort of get it, but it's warped space in the time vortex, according to Gold. So, is IT the Other World? Which makes no sense, because that concept shouldn't have existed in the manga at that time. ERGH, too confusing...*Brain implodes*

Maybe Sird's henchmen/women could be the TR executives that...Well...Disappeared at the end of the arc. You know, the other masked children other than Silver, Blue, Will, and Karen? (I can't remember their names. >.>)

Again, I don't understand how time travel works, but the that seems like a good theory to me. ^^; Although the one thing missing would be HOW they travel through time, but that could always be some random Legendary that hasn't been brought up yet.

And speaking of the Shinto ruins...Maybe they could have some connection to the Alph ruins? I mean, Platina does mention them (I think it's her) when they show up in the D/P arc. At first I just thought it was referencing to the HG/SS upcoming game, but looking back it seems kinda weird that the manga would hint at that if it was going to become official in only a few weeks.

Maybe the Pokethlon could be something like an event where the story takes place. Either that or the building itself is TR HQ...Which would be a ripoff of the previous arcs, so I wouldn't like that.