Gen 1 Moves BANNED in Sun and Moon?

[XxCassiexX]

I don't know if anyone else has already started a topic about this, but if so please direct me there.

Anyway, I'm surprised I haven't seen a LOT more people talking about this. Apparently, if you transfer a pokemon with a move that they could only learn in Gen 1 (Zapdos with Whirlwind, or Venusaur with Reflect, for example) you can't use these pokemon online.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I doing it wrong?

Also, if anyone else noticed cool/viable moves that could only be learned on pokemon in the older generations I'd love to hear about them... I might try to transfer some more over too and see if they're usable.

 

[Dragon]

That's... really interesting. oO I wonder why this is the case?

That's quite a conundrum; maybe they would deem it unfair? Or perhaps they're still considering what to do with those kinds of moves?

 

[Kieran]

Because No Guard Fissuring Machamp? Wonder if that'll be blocked.

 

[Volga]

Because No Guard Fissuring Machamp? Wonder if that'll be blocked.

All transferred Gen I Pokemon have HA, so No Guard Fissure is impossible either way.

This is actually interesting. I wonder if it's an undersight and will be patched later or intentional.

 

[smocks]

Maybe it's banned because it'll be more work to catch hacked Pokémon & etc. not sure though, it's pretty peculiar.

 

[tenchi]

I havent payed much attention to the changes in moves too too much. I did notice my Ash greninja couldnt learn mat block though. My transfered greninja can still use mat block. I think though that it probably cant breed pokes with mat block, and i bet if i delete the move it cant be relearned.

 

[Hikamaru]

That's quite a conundrum; maybe they would deem it unfair? Or perhaps they're still considering what to do with those kinds of moves?

I think the reason GF are making it this way is because Fissure No Guard Machamp would be ridiculously broken and I guess locking these Pokemon to hidden abilities is their best cause of action so that they can be more fair.

 

[blue]

I think there are some broken movesets from gen I which have been fixed in later gens so it's no surprise to me.

 

[mireka]

that's weird though

i understand screening for hacks but even when they are legit??

 

[XxCassiexX]

I have no idea. Zapdos Whirlwind and Venusaur reflect really aren't that OP.

Machamp cannot have No Guard, so Fissure isn't an issue. I wish pokemon company would explain.

 

[Oblox]

Its more likely an oversight, the moves are probably on an illegal list and it just hasnt been updated.

 

[Sirfetch’d]

Zapdos gets Roar so I don't particularly care about whirlwind. Though this is pretty interesting to note. Are there any other moves that mons previously got that are of importance?

 

[sonic65101]

Maybe they haven't updated the list of legal moves to take into account that people can now transfer Pokémon from Generation I to Generation VII?

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Its more likely an oversight, the moves are probably on an illegal list and it just hasnt been updated.

Does that mean you could potentially get banned from online play for trying to use legitimate Pokemon?

 

[Flowerchild]

that is surprising but I guess it makes sense. Gen 1 had some great examples of horrible balancing and moveset design, haha