Global Warming. What are you doing to help?

[Krobelus]

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Hmm.. click the above link, it contradicts with what Al Gore had to say.

I believed every word that Al Gore said, although I was also scared at the time. But, I seen this, and now I'm not so sure. What I really want to know is why are they swindling everyone, if so?

 

[Bomberman]

The fact is that global warming is happening, and has been happening since the beginning of time. The earth goes in stages, from ice age, to warm period, and we are nearing toward another ice age. I don't think we have the right or power to say we should stop a natural process. Not that we could actually anyway. It was going on way before we were here and will be going on long after we're gone. Maybe I'm cynical, but it really just seems like delaying the inevitable.

Right. We don't know if this is naturally happening, or if it has happened before.
Personally, I don't think we (humans) should be so arrogant to believe that we can make any serious difference.
Besides, recent evidence shows it could be solar.
I think it's safe for us to get in our little cars.

 

[Dr. SmoothSeks]

This mentality wouldn't be such a big deal, if not for the fact that everyone shares it. This whole 'I can't change it on my own so I better contribute to the problem' idea is a very dangerous way of thinking.

Right... You tell me how me doing anything is going to change something, and I might consider it. Not "if everyone helped....". Tell me how it would change anything in the long run if I did anything about it.

 

[Ledgend of the UnKnOwns]

@ Dr. SmoothSeks: Cencus Canada found that each Canadian makes about one to three tonns (depending on your useage) of carbon emmitions a year. If you helped you might be able to get rid of one tonn of greenhouse gasses. One tonn! People with asthma might breath a little easyer, more things would get recyled, the whole world would benifit. (And your gas bill might be a little lower too!

@ [Starfish Prime]: If everyone did their part (reducing their emmitions by one tonn) it would make a difference

@ Rinji: Tell me, is it arrogent to try to save (to your knowledge) the earth? To try making a difference for the better? Even if your sacrafices are futile? In my opinion no. If you belive you can make a difference, for the better, go ahed.

 

[Persona]

I don't do anything, because human-caused global warming is a big hoax made to ensure that the developing world doesn't develop. The real culprit is the sun- we still aren't as warm as we were during Medieval times. You should really watch The Great Global Warming Swindle...

So, yeah, I see no point in it.

Look at the hockey stick, it shows a warming effect since 1950 after a moderately stable climate for 1000 years. In fact, the 10 most hottest years in history have been recorded, and they all happened since 1990, 2005 being the hottest of them all. How's this proof of man's fault in this? Of course, the Earth naturally heats and cools itself, but the rate and amount we are warming now had no previous examples in the recent geologic past. The magnitude of temperature increase is already higher than that of the 'little ice age', which had occured in the middle ages. The rate and amount are only going up.

I do not accept the idea that Global Warming is a hoax, we are involved in this, and don't think that it's some political statement. This is science trying to educate an unrefined, ignorant public of the damage that they are causing.

 

[Blastoise]

I burn Styrofoam cups in my backyard in a giant bonfire every night. I roast marshmallows over it and proclaim that I am queen of the galaxy.

But in all seriousness, I get rides with my friends as much as possible when going places and drive them places to save gas. I'm going to build a new computer soon that uses less electricity (it won't be as powerful, but whatever) and I always turn off lights and things when I don't need them.

 

[Ho-Oh]

I don't water my pets when they are hot, I'm trying to save the earth but then Pop goes along and just wastes the water.
My pets don't know the meaning of suffer for the planet ;;
Though, that doesn't really help much~

 

[Krobelus]

How do we know that were causing most of the damage? I could'nt care less, because so many people are trying to contradict each other, and it is starting to get really annoying. SO.. instead of me staying on one side, I'm going to stay right in the middle and do my normal thing, (to a point).

Also.. don't try to change my perspective, because if you believe what Al Gore has said, then you should also know that even if we ALL stop now, it would still take the earth 1000 years to recover, which, I wont live to see, neither will any of you. So, even if we make try to make a difference, it wont help much, because it's too late. That is, if you believe what Al Gore says.

Also.. Nica, I have the same problem, at my mother's house, I have three dogs and a cat,and at my dad's house, I have two cats. They get hot in the summer time, and it's hard to keep them cool.

 

[Persona]

I considered watching that video called "The Great Global Warming Swindle". I'm sure there was more of a need of scientific debate on many of these issues, and the public debating on Global Warming would be improved if all the issues were discussed more often, the entire tone of the program seemed hysterical at times, in my opinion. Carl Wunsch's reply in what he had said in the video seemed to have been so selectively edited by the makers of the film as to be nonsense. Example, how can carbon dioxide cause Global Warming? Doesn't it only make up a small percentage of the atmosphere?

I hope that he has definitively given up his earlier 'both sides are equally bad' prejudice. I hear this all the time, even today from neutral technocratic people who believe that they're being enormously penetrating and impressive when they say it.

Also, I'm against the idea about Africa being told by climate change activists to not touch their resources. Just to be clear, they are correct about the fact that Africa does have oil, but no one can just argue that it shouldn't benefit from this. The current climate change movement is not even involved in the role in keeping Africans benefiting from their resources, especially when comparing to the political and economic systems that have improved over the past few centuries. If this seriously was a concern, then I doubt that climate change has an influence in this.

 

[Miyu-chan]

I don't know if Al Gore is lying or not, but I do believe that Global Warming is a problem, and we should love our Earth and protect it. We're using those energy saving lightbulbs and carpool when we can, haha.

 

[Ledgend of the UnKnOwns]

Also.. don't try to change my perspective, because if you believe what Al Gore has said, then you should also know that even if we ALL stop now, it would still take the earth 1000 years to recover, which, I wont live to see, neither will any of you.

Oh, so I guess future generations don't count, right?

 

[Arcanine]

I'm not going to get into the whole back and forth battles going on in this thread. I'll just say what I think and leave it at that (I'm not in the mood to debate about Global Warming, I'm not going to change my views and most people aren't going to change theirs).

There is Global Warming (I'm going to call it "GW" from now on), it has gotten warmer over the years. Just this last year we had a some what short winter (I live in the South so it tends to be warmer). And here it is the start of spring and it's already in the 80's.
But the thing is, I see GW as a natural thing. Man plays no part in the warming of the earth. We couldn't kill the earth if we wanted to. Going by the bible there was a global flood, and going by evolution there was an ice age (take your pick). And *shocked* the earth is still here. So what is little old man doing to kill the earth? Driving cars? Let me get this straight, the earth can take a hit from a commit or whatever, or totally flooded over and keep on going yet us driving cars is killing it? Or should I get over to the cow GW idea (some people think cow pies are putting holes in the OZone layer or something like that, and thus Global Warming).
And here's some fun facts some of you might not have known. GW is also happening on Mars (you know, the planet). We have never set foot on Mars, we have never put a car on Mars. So now what, the rovers we got over there is some how making Mars warm up? Does this mean man is to blame if Mars also has a bad case of sunburn?


As I said, man plays no part in GW. It's just a cycle of the sun getting warmer then normal (I think like every 40 years or something like that). So no matter how much change or steps we take to stop a greenhouse effect it isn't going to do anything. Everyone can ride bikes from now on, stop eating beef, and all that stuff and it'll still be warm outside in the summer and cold in the winter.



And I thought I'd add this in because it's funny.
The Global Warming summit had to be canceled because everyone was snowed in. Tons of cold cold snow prevented people from talking about Global Warming.

 

[Kura]

.o. I personally think that Global Warming is due to a whole bunch of factors.. but I guess what people don't take into consideration is the sun..
When a star is about to die.. it gets bigger and bigger and then collapses. ._. I think that's what the sun is doing. It's getting a little bigger overtime and that's what's making everything hotter and stuff..

(Besides all that usual junk)~ .O. And I also think that the people who choose to ignore the problem are just ignorant.. and should do the most that they can to save the planet. Otherwise I think that they'll ungrateful for being put on this beautiful Earth~

 

[Dr. SmoothSeks]

@ Dr. SmoothSeks: Cencus Canada found that each Canadian makes about one to three tonns (depending on your useage) of carbon emmitions a year. If you helped you might be able to get rid of one tonn of greenhouse gasses. One tonn! People with asthma might breath a little easyer, more things would get recyled, the whole world would benifit. (And your gas bill might be a little lower too!

1. Ton has one n. Not 2.

2. I don't have asthma.

3. I don't care about more stuff getting recycled.

4. I don't care if the whole world benefits. All that matters is that I benefit.

5. "Little" is the key word there. "Might" is also a big one. This is actually the only thing you've said that matters to me, but it's not big enough that I'm going to make an effort to stop (or slow down) something that might not even be happening.

 

[Allstories]

1. Ton has one n. Not 2.

He's talking about a metric tonne, which has two n's, as opposed to the imperial ton.

 

[Ledgend of the UnKnOwns]

1. Ton has one n. Not 2.

Metric tonn. Remember, I live in Canada.

2. I don't have asthma.

Yah, but others just might.

3. I don't care about more stuff getting recycled.

How ignorent of you. You should know we're running out of resorces also.

4. I don't care if the whole world benefits. All that matters is that I benefit.

WOW! that is mabye the most ignorent comment i've heard.

 

[Careful With That Axe Pichu!]

I personally see Global Warming as a natural phenomenon, but that doesn't mean I don't support energy saving and other things that help the environment.

And I have my doubts about recycling. Who were those, proved that the process of recycling wastes more energy than the equivalent it tries to save? I can't really take a big part on that right now. Maybe I'm just misinformed. Oh heck, just used a word so related to global warming.

1. Ton has one n. Not 2.
2. I don't have asthma.
4. I don't care if the whole world benefits. All that matters is that I benefit.

I laughed at that. I seriously 'loled' at that.

I love your sarcasm... I hope that was sarcastic. 'Cause this is, too.

 

[Ledgend of the UnKnOwns]

From now on this thred is only for the discussion of how Global Warming can be stopped, or slowed down. Any offtopic posts will be reported. Any postes that say Global Warming is fake, a scam, and soforth, will also be reported. For anyone who wants to discuss how they think Global Warming is a sham may make their own thred. (This only takes effect on SUNDAY APRIL 1ST 2007) Thank you.

 

[Dr. SmoothSeks]

Metric tonn. Remember, I live in Canada.

Actually, I didn't know that. I can't remember what I don't know.

Yah, but others just might.

And?

How ignorent of you. You should know we're running out of resorces also.

I doubt we're going to run out of resources in my lifetime. I don't care about future generations.

WOW! that is mabye the most ignorent comment i've heard.

Do tell why. I don't see how my comment is "ignorent".

 

[Ledgend of the UnKnOwns]

Metric tonn. Remember, I live in Canada.

Actually, I didn't know that. I can't remember what I don't know.

Fine.

Yah, but others just might.

And?

And!?! What do you mean and? Other people have asthma, and they would benifit. You just don't care about others do you?...

How ignorent of you. You should know we're running out of resorces also.

I doubt we're going to run out of resources in my lifetime. I don't care about future generations.

If you don't care about future generations I can't change that. But, still they are, or at least will be, people too, and people count. They shouldn't have to clean up this mess.

WOW! that is mabye the most ignorent comment i've heard.

Do tell why. I don't see how my comment is "ignorent".

Sorry, I misused that word. Your comment was self-indulgent, selfish. Only caring for yourself is not a good thing.

From now on this thred is only for the discussion of how Global Warming can be stopped, or slowed down. Any offtopic posts will be reported. Any postes that say Global Warming is fake, a scam, and soforth, will also be reported. For anyone who wants to discuss how they think Global Warming is a sham may make their own thred. (This only takes effect on SUNDAY APRIL 1ST 2007) Thank you.

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