killer-curry
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DO you agree this? Do you think getting higher education gets better job?
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Greater Education gets Greater Salary for work.
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...Yes, the more education you have, the likelier it is you will get a higher paying job. 'Better' is subjective and ultimately comes down to what you think is the best job for you, but realistically, of course you're going to have a job that is seen as better if you have years of higher education behind you.
Of course, that leads into a new discussion about how the basic undergrad degree at university is barely enough and is now considered the standard for most employers looking for workers, forcing people to pursue further postgrad education in order to get an edge in the job market.
Of course, that leads into a new discussion about how the basic undergrad degree at university is barely enough and is now considered the standard for most employers looking for workers, forcing people to pursue further postgrad education in order to get an edge in the job market.
Alex
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yes, the only exception is for artists or creators that create something the masses crave.. like Facebook. Anyone with basic coding and html skills could've made Facebook, but it's kind of a right-time right-place type of thing.
other than that, I think if you invest years of your life in education, you have earned skills and knowledge that not most people have, and therefore are in-demand in certain fields and deserve higher pay. really sucks if your field is not in high demand though, then it's reeeeal competitive.
other than that, I think if you invest years of your life in education, you have earned skills and knowledge that not most people have, and therefore are in-demand in certain fields and deserve higher pay. really sucks if your field is not in high demand though, then it's reeeeal competitive.
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Higher education gives you a better chance of a higher paying job but doesn't guarantee you one. A lot of people go into university with the mind set that if they make it through they will come out and immediately get a job that pays well to pay off their debts. The reality is that some people go through university, get their degree in whatever then spend the next 2+ years working at the mall on minimum wage. There are a couple of people I work with who have university degrees and yet are on minimum wage as lifeguards.
The other problem is companies these days value experience in the field over a piece of paper with some fancy writing on it. If you just have that piece of paper saying you know what you are doing, you are probably less likely to get a job than someone without the paper but has worked in the field for years. Don't get me wrong, the piece of paper helps and there are a lot of professions that require it, but it's not the be-all and end-all of it.
The other problem is companies these days value experience in the field over a piece of paper with some fancy writing on it. If you just have that piece of paper saying you know what you are doing, you are probably less likely to get a job than someone without the paper but has worked in the field for years. Don't get me wrong, the piece of paper helps and there are a lot of professions that require it, but it's not the be-all and end-all of it.
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Does having more education better your chances of a higher paying job? Yes. Should it? Not necessarily. If it's a technical field that needs a lot of training and knowledge then, yeah, sure, that makes perfect sense. But on the job training can be better than anything to getting a good worker who knows their job really well. Hardly any places are willing to train someone though.
And if everyone at the top of their workplace pyramids are super-educated you're going to get a skewed perception of things because those people who aren't academically-minded but just as sharp and adaptable and hardworking aren't going to have their perspectives heard as often.
And if everyone at the top of their workplace pyramids are super-educated you're going to get a skewed perception of things because those people who aren't academically-minded but just as sharp and adaptable and hardworking aren't going to have their perspectives heard as often.
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Most of the time, yeah. Then there's those few who make break big with a revolutionary idea and become millionaires...which only come every now and then.
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Yes and no. There's a good percentage of the population with a college education that are forced to work minimum wage or unemployed because they are either over qualified or they pursued in a degree that has limited field employment, lots of degrees are pointless really. If you have a degree in management some employers will employ you as an assistant manager just because you have a degree in that field and it makes it easier to rise to general management in the future. Same goes for other jobs like health, engineering, mechanics, machinists, culinary arts, etc. Basically jobs that are booming. Even a certificate in a specified field you'd have a better chance of getting a higher paying job.
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You know, I'm not so sure if this is the case. Teachers need to be highly trained and have to study at university for several years but a person who drops out of school early then spends a year or two at TAFE studying a trade can make a lot more. Nurses need to have a lot of training but get paid a pittance. Dance instructors (like me) have to do a lot of study as well as have prior experience with the trade and have an extremely specialised job but make precisely fuck all.
I think this works as a general rule, but like most "general rules" there's a lot of exceptions.
I think this works as a general rule, but like most "general rules" there's a lot of exceptions.
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I think there is an argument to be made for both sides.
In my experience, having tertiary education and a degree is of vital importance in securing some kind of career path. I see some of my friends stalling in their lives somewhat because they do not have a degree behind their name. They have a job that pays the bills, but it is not something that will lead to a higher platform on its own.
Conversely, I have learned that most industries are ruled by personal relationships. Employers will hire those who leave a good impression (and that is often down to the power of the interview), not necessarily those who have undergone the proper training. It's about being personable, having charisma and even a sense of humour.
In my experience, having tertiary education and a degree is of vital importance in securing some kind of career path. I see some of my friends stalling in their lives somewhat because they do not have a degree behind their name. They have a job that pays the bills, but it is not something that will lead to a higher platform on its own.
Conversely, I have learned that most industries are ruled by personal relationships. Employers will hire those who leave a good impression (and that is often down to the power of the interview), not necessarily those who have undergone the proper training. It's about being personable, having charisma and even a sense of humour.
I very nearly went to study for an art degree (personal life got in the way). I am so glad I didn't end up going. That would have been a waste of three years and I would probably have ended up in retail just like i am now, only later and in debt. So firstly, there are a lot of nonsense degrees out there. ou don't need a degree to make a living from your art or to learn new techniques. You will spend half of your time researching and writing anyway.
Also, I think higher education is can be a fast track to an interview but not always secure you the job you want right away. Potential employers might think you have the personality of a sponge.
Also, I think higher education is can be a fast track to an interview but not always secure you the job you want right away. Potential employers might think you have the personality of a sponge.
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Well, as of now, I have a degree in Biology and I work at Safeway, so suffice to say - I'm starting to feel as though college was a rip-off. College ended up being a tremendous waste of time. I can count everything I actually remember from college on one hand and now not only do I have a piece of paper that doesn't guarantee me a job in my field, but I'm also tens-of-thousands of dollars in student debt and now paying it off with a job I went to college partially to avoid doing. Oh, the irony.