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HeartGold hack: HGSS Golden Edition

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Hopefully I'm not asking for too much but I was just wondering if you could take a look at some of the movesets. If you want to stick to the most updated version that's fine but I just noticed that some of the pokemon get nerfed a bit because of the update to the most current movesets as oppose to sticking with the og gen4 movesets.
For example:
Heracross gets Brick Break at level 28 instead of 19 which means its not as good against Whitney (forced to use Rock smash instead) however earlier Megahorn is a valid tradeoff
Flaaffy gets discharge at level 38 instead of 31 which means it's stuck with thundershock unless something replaces electroball or you grind for Thunderbolt (easier to get though)
Quilava/Typhlosion gets lava plume at 42/43 instead of 35 which sucks when that's around the level you fight Jasmine iirc from when I played before (could grind for flamethrower) but earlier Eruption access is nice
I'm sure there's a few others but I just hope that this is something worth considering
Thanks for the work you've done however and I'm very excited to play especially because of the reusable TM's!
 
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The hack works perfectly fine on my NO$GBA emulator, but is it compatible with save editors? I tried uploading the save to PKHeX but it wouldn't recognize it...
 

CadmiumRED

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A few things I wanted to point out in the hack, which by the way is totally excellent so far (I made it to Ecruteak City and it's a blast playing this with the Level Curve implemented):

First, in Ecruteak City, there's an NPC at the top right hand side inside the Poke Mart that says: "My Eevee evolved into an Eevee. But my friend's Eevee turned into an Eevee. I wonder why? We both were raising our Eevee in the same way..." Shouldn't it have been Espeon and Umbreon in the text instead? I admit I had to look at this string of text at least 5 times before I realized it had to be a booboo of some sort in the hack.

Second, some of the battle mechanics I think strayed from the Gen 6/7 format that you were wanting to be in this.

1.) The Confusion status, it seems that it's still the higher chance of hurting yourself if confused as well as the opposing Pokémon; if I'm not mistaken, I believe in Gen 6/7 that the Confusion status was 25% chance of hurting yourself instead of 50%.
2.) Thunder Wave is still at 100% accuracy, which I'm pretty sure it was reduced to either 90 or 95% in Gen 7. On Thunder Wave, it can still Paralyze Electric-type Pokémon. Was this intentional to leave it like that and forgo the Gen 7 version of Thunder Wave?
3.) The Steel type.. why isn't it neutral to Dark-type attacks like Gen 6/7 standardized?

Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to have Knock Off be a Move Tutor-learnable move? I remember that was a boon in Gen 7 to have that.
I'll post whatever else I can find that might seem off and hopefully it can be documented and taken into account.

*EDIT: I just got a phone call in the PokéGear from Kris and she says "You know, if you're headed over to Route 40000000000000000, you should ta with you and see what happens! You'll see something interesting. That's for sure! Click! ......"
It might would be smart to really double-check through the scripting the NPCs say in the game, because this is anything but normal.
*EDIT2: I was Surfing on the small pond in Ecruteak City and I had my Weepinbell at the start of my party, and I encountered a Poliwhirl. It froze the game.
*EDIT3: In the fight with Team Rocket Executive Archer, I had an Ampharos at the start in my party and Archer sent out Houndour as his first Pokemon. I was going to use Power Gem, and Houndour used Flamethrower. The instant Flamethrower finished its animation, it froze the game.

**Disregard EDIT2 and EDIT3, I think that was due to me not AP-patching the original ROM first. I had to do the AP-patch first to the clean original ROM, then re-apply the Golden Edition Level Curve patch to the AP-patched ROM, and all is well. Though I don't if it's just me, but when you beat the Elite Four, skip the end credits and get to the THE END screen, when you press Start and it fades to black, it stays that way and doesn't revert back to the sequence of turning on the game again and getting to the title screen. Was that part of original ROM, the hack, or is this a side-effect of it being AP-patched and having the Golden Edition Level Curve patch applied?

Other than that, the hack's been a major joy to play so far!
 
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Lunos

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I've been playing this hack lately because I suddenly felt like replaying HGSS, and so far I've been having a blast!
I came here to report a very small glitch I just found. After the events in the Slowpoke Well, I asked Kurt to make me Poké Balls with all the different Apricorns I collected.
After that, I interacted with her granddaughter and she gave me his phone number, but then I spoke to Kurt himself and she came, asking me if I wanted to register his phone number even though I already had it.

Say, I do have a question to ask though, are there remarkable wild encounter changes?
I suspect not, since there doesn't seem to be a wild encounters list in the main post, but I don't lose anything by asking.

Nice work, BlazingMagmar!
 

CadmiumRED

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Say, I do have a question to ask though, are there remarkable wild encounter changes?
I suspect not, since there doesn't seem to be a wild encounters list in the main post, but I don't lose anything by asking.

If I'm not mistaken, I did encounter wild Electabuzz above Olivine City; I don't believe that was in that area in the original HGSS at all.

I also think making the changes to the new Pokémon wild encounter changes into the Pokédex would be a big help; if not that, at least a cheat sheet/chart of all the Pokemon and their locations in the wild/trades/evolutions would be great.
The attacks/moves/type-mechanics should be looked closer into from the previous requests I asked about, because some are still not updated to the standards of Gen 6/7.

So far, I'm in Kanto and have beaten Lt. Surge and Erika, and have taken the Cycling Road to Fuchsia City and the routes east of the city to gain more experience. A couple of the trainers on the way seemed to have teams that didn't look like they were touched upon with the level curve, but there was one trainer I saw on the dock area that had a level 77 Magikarp as his last Pokémon.. I honestly got a lol out of that one.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, I did encounter wild Electabuzz above Olivine City; I don't believe that was in that area in the original HGSS at all.

I also think making the changes to the new Pokémon wild encounter changes into the Pokédex would be a big help; if not that, at least a cheat sheet/chart of all the Pokemon and their locations in the wild/trades/evolutions would be great.
The attacks/moves/type-mechanics should be looked closer into from the previous requests I asked about, because some are still not updated to the standards of Gen 6/7.

So far, I'm in Kanto and have beaten Lt. Surge and Erika, and have taken the Cycling Road to Fuchsia City and the routes east of the city to gain more experience. A couple of the trainers on the way seemed to have teams that didn't look like they were touched upon with the level curve, but there was one trainer I saw on the dock area that had a level 77 Magikarp as his last Pokémon.. I honestly got a lol out of that one.

Hi sorry for the late reply.

Thanks for those text bugs you reported and they have been fixed.
The Confusion status cannot be changed at this time since hacking in gen4 is already limited.

As for the accuracy of thunder wave I kept it 100 since nuzzle does not exist in this gen, same reason why leech life is still 20 power.

As for the steel type thing, since there is no fairy type in my hack, i didn't see the point of it.


A new update with gen8 hybrid movesets will be comming soon.
 

CadmiumRED

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Not a problem, just glad you're still here. Would you be able to compile a wild/trade/evolutions cheat sheet/chart for this hack being the Pokédex hasn't been updated, or is the hack-specific Pokédex going to be part of the new update?
 
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Can someone please path the ROM and send it to me ,?
I tried everything to patch the game myself but it just don't seem to be working
Thanks in advance
 
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Just wondering, how exactly is the level curve patch different? Thanks as always :) still following
 
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This hack looks awesome. Can you capture every Pokemon in gen 4, just like in SacredGold?
 
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Great game but I am having a problem. I'm currently playing this game on twilight menu plus. However, it keeps freezing up on me on semi regular intervals, typically during a transition to black. It is usually tolerable but I sometimes have to repeat trainer battles because of this. Is there any way to fix this?
 
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Great game but I am having a problem. I'm currently playing this game on twilight menu plus. However, it keeps freezing up on me on semi regular intervals, typically during a transition to black. It is usually tolerable but I sometimes have to repeat trainer battles because of this. Is there any way to fix this?

The hack and even the original games are not reliably compatible with twilight. Better to use an emulator or cart.
 
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Is there a trade evolution in the game?
I can't do trades since emulators can't do that
 
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Idk if this is a problem with this hack or the emulator I'm using (Drastic on Android) but the screens are sometimes incorrect. The bottom screen should show the Pokemon since that is the touchscreen, but instead they are displayed on the top screen and I have to assume where they would be and touch in the area they would be if it were correct.
 
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So... Can you make this hackrom compatible with the (U) version please? I cant find an (E) version and the link in emuparadise it's gone
 

Mikachu

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So... Can you make this hackrom compatible with the (U) version please? I cant find an (E) version and the link in emuparadise it's gone

If I remember correctly, the one on romsmania does the trick. It's the European version. Just put Pokemon - HeartGold Version (v10) (E) into Google and it's like the second or third option. I'm have to check once I'm home but I'm pretty sure this is the one I've been using myself since Emuparadise was always super slow for me.
 
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