4th Gen Honestly, whoever thought of events should be fired

[NickofTime]

I still don't get how thats different, each concert is different, much like how every pokemon is different.
And you do get what you pay for if you go to the event its not like some bouncer says "ehhh your not tall enough to get darkrai"

when you buy versions of each game you buy the game not the events. Nintendo doesn't ever say you can catch all of the pokemon in one version.

People say without events its impossible to complete the pokedex and yet Nintendo encourages trading with wifi trading and the gts which allows anyone to fill up the pokedex

And yes while filling up your pokedex is a goal of the pokemon games, catching and owning every pokemon is not. I filled up my pokedex but i dont have every pokemon, many i had to trade back.

Most pokemon gamers have a preconcieved notion they can catch them all let me read the back of my soul silver package to you this is a disclaimer in back

POKEMON SOULSILVER VERSION is the enhanced version of Pokemon silver for the Game boy system with brand new features and story elements. The differences between Pokemon HeartGold and Pokemon SoulSilver Versions include how often and which kinds of pokemon appear. (Nintendo doesn't even claim you can get every pokemon in one version, much less one region)

and there is more than 1 event for each legendary. Meaning that it isn't a once in a lifetime event

Plus there is going to be pokemon events in the future.

And i've looked over my diamond package
where does it indicate that there is a darkrai or promises darkrai or any other event pokemon
all it has is a giant dialga lol

So i fail to see how Nintendo "promises" event pokemon

Oh yeah when i went to the event i got my event pokemon, i got what i payed for

Im sorry but what your saying sounds a lot like utopia lol "EVERYONE SHOULD GET THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES" but the world doesn't work that way, its not nintendo's fault that some kid living in yorkshire misses out on the jirachi event (thats me btw) its not really anyone's fault, its just how it happened

SHOOKIE THERE ARE 4 DEOXYS BTW

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

People say without events its impossible to complete the pokedex and yet Nintendo encourages trading with wifi trading and the gts which allows anyone to fill up the pokedex

Oh for gods' sake. EVENT POKÉMON CANNOT BE PLACED ON THE GTS. Their ribbons stop them. So anybody who doesn't have access to a trading forum like PokéCommunity is, indeed, screwed!

POKEMON SOULSILVER VERSION is the enhanced version of Pokemon silver for the Game boy system with brand new features and story elements. The differences between Pokemon HeartGold and Pokemon SoulSilver Versions include how often and which kinds of pokemon appear.

Yet I notice the back of the packet does not say 'You will need to attend Pokémon Movie XYZ to obtain Celebi', etc.? The back of the pack implies that if you have SS and a friend has HG, you will have the entire PokéDex between you. Which is factually wrong. And Celebi is mentioned in-game too, in the passageway out of Ilex Forest! So all of the gamers who don't have access to Pokémon Movie XYZ will continue to think, 'buh, where the heck do I catch the Forest Guardian, then? o.0' (Also, inb4 'lol they can check online?', as I'm guessing that will be your next answer.)

and there is more than 1 event for each legendary. Meaning that it isn't a once in a lifetime event

Again, how does this affect people who simply do not have access to the Events, I.E. most of the world outside Japan and America? I notice that you are dodging this question and simply repeating 'but there's more than one Event!' As Shookie said, Australians get almost no Events whatsoever. It's the same here in England.

And i've looked over my diamond package
where does it indicate that there is a darkrai or promises darkrai or any other event pokemon
all it has is a giant dialga lol

lol, I've run out of arguments so now I'm going to be pedantic. :'D Darkrai is mentioned in-game in a side-quest involving Cresselia in Canalave City. I'm going to go ahead and presume that had they been allowed, GameFreak would have made Cresselia Event-only too.

Oh yeah when i went to the event i got my event pokemon, i got what i payed for

Good for you, it's nice to know you live near places that run the Events. I and everyone else who are trying to bang our heads against a wall discuss this with you do not.

Im sorry but what your saying sounds a lot like utopia lol "EVERYONE SHOULD GET THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES" but the world doesn't work that way, its not nintendo's fault that some kid living in yorkshire misses out on the jirachi event (thats me btw) its not really anyone's fault, its just how it happened

Yes, it is Nintendo's fault. If they're going to make Pokémon as Events, they should make sure everybody has decent access to them.

SHOOKIE THERE ARE 4 DEOXYS BTW

THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP AS SHOOKIE WAS SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY EVENTS THERE ARE IF YOU CAN'T GET ACCESS TO THEM LIKE IN AUSTRALIA LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. God. Please research your arguments before you get all sarcastic on us, or at least read our original posts, yes?

 

[Skip Class]

I live in New Zealand and as far as I know I haven't heard of any events here - Even worse is that I don't have WiFi.....

 

[Myles]

Oh for gods' sake. EVENT POKÉMON CANNOT BE PLACED ON THE GTS. Their ribbons stop them. So anybody who doesn't have access to a trading forum like PokéCommunity is, indeed, screwed!

Most of them don't have those ribbons.

Yet I notice the back of the packet does not say 'You will need to attend Pokémon Movie XYZ to obtain Celebi', etc.? The back of the pack implies that if you have SS and a friend has HG, you will have the entire PokéDex between you. Which is factually wrong. And Celebi is mentioned in-game too, in the passageway out of Ilex Forest! So all of the gamers who don't have access to Pokémon Movie XYZ will continue to think, 'buh, where the heck do I catch the Forest Guardian, then? o.0' (Also, inb4 'lol they can check online?', as I'm guessing that will be your next answer.)

It is never implied anywhere Celebi can be obtained in the game. And sure, Celebi may be mentioned, but so is Regigigas in RSE, the regis in DP, Munchlax in PMD, the Gen I starters in GSC, etc.; are they ripping you off? Most (I think all, except maybe Celebi; I'm not 100% sure) of the event-only Pokemon aren't even officially announced at the time the games are released. That's just ridiculous.

Again, how does this affect people who simply do not have access to the Events, I.E. most of the world outside Japan and America? I notice that you are dodging this question and simply repeating 'but there's more than one Event!' As Shookie said, Australians get almost no Events whatsoever. It's the same here in England.

England and Australia have been getting a fair few events. They're just in major cities. Besides they've become much better about that nowadays. Australia, at least, has had every single event that has also been available in America in Gen IV. Note that I, personally, haven't gotten any events that weren't Wi-Fi.

lol, I've run out of arguments so now I'm going to be pedantic. :'D Darkrai is mentioned in-game in a side-quest involving Cresselia in Canalave City. I'm going to go ahead and presume that had they been allowed, GameFreak would have made Cresselia Event-only too.

I'm going to bet GameFreak would have been completely allowed to make Cresselia event-only if they wanted to.

Good for you, it's nice to know you live near places that run the Events. I and everyone else who are trying to bang our heads against a wall discuss this with you do not.

Opinions are of no less value just because someone has access to events; it's not like he's being jerkish about it.

Yes, it is Nintendo's fault. If they're going to make Pokémon as Events, they should make sure everybody has decent access to them.

There are more people involved then just Nintendo. For example the Arceus that was distributed in Australia was made available for EB Games and Kmart to distribute, but they chose to not distribute it throughout some of their more obscure stores. And thus small towns missed out.

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

It is never implied anywhere Celebi can be obtained in the game. And sure, Celebi may be mentioned, but so is Regigigas in RSE, the regis in DP, Munchlax in PMD, the Gen I starters in GSC, etc.; are they ripping you off? Most (I think all, except maybe Celebi; I'm not 100% sure) of the event-only Pokemon aren't even officially announced at the time the games are released. That's just ridiculous.

But at least in the case of those you mentioned, you can transfer them over from previous games. There's nothing special you need to obtain them, nothing it's impossible to get hold of. If you want the Regis in DP, then you can transfer them from RSE.

England and Australia have been getting a fair few events. They're just in major cities. Besides they've become much better about that nowadays. Australia, at least, has had every single event that has also been available in America in Gen IV. Note that I, personally, haven't gotten any events that weren't Wi-Fi.

We have, but nowhere near as many as America and Japan. And most of them are in very, very localised areas - such as London and Sydney. What if you don't live anywhere near London and Sydney? Then you miss out. I really wouldn't have a problem with Events if they were solely Wi-Fi based, because then if you don't have Wi-Fi at home you can at least seek out a friend, a Starbucks or whatever to find a connection. It's far easier to do that than learn there's only one cinema in your country where you can get the desired Pokémon.

Opinions are of no less value just because someone has access to events; it's not like he's being jerkish about it.

That's very true, and I recognise that I may have gone OTT on my own post (I apologise, NickofTime), but opinions do need to be backed up by some sort of factual evidence in the case of debates, not assertions. Stating that Events can be obtained more than once over and over as a defence to 'but I don't live anywhere near these places!' is faulty logic.

There are more people involved then just Nintendo. For example the Arceus that was distributed in Australia was made available for EB Games and Kmart to distribute, but they chose to not distribute it throughout some of their more obscure stores. And thus small towns missed out.

I admit that I didn't know that. But perhaps Nintendo could have made more of an effort to ensure that the Arceus was distributed all over Australia, rather than just the big cities?

 

[Alternative]

I just wanna say that I think events are good to just be for a limited time only and have the unique moves, like the Draco Meteor Jirachi, but I think events that give you key items, such as the one that unlocks the Rotom Formes should be on forever, since you can't exactly clone or redistribute the item to other people.

I think the term "Event" to me means some sort of Pokemon with something exclusive about it like a move or a Berry. That's what makes the latest Jirachi set a good event. The bad event would be something like the latest Scizor in Japan. It's a moveset anyone could make via breeding (and a bad one) and the Starf Berry I believe people could already have access to their games.

Also about the EB games dilemna in Australia, where I live which isn't a big city, but in generally small suburbia, and there is three EB Games stores within 15 mins driving distance. I agree that maybe it should be released in more remote, country towns, but they don't exactly have well-known stores now.

 

[wert5679]

I personally think events can be handled better. Why not have a wi-fi shop in game that uses in game currency that has items and pokemon specific to each region and make these items/pokes tradeable on the gts? They could also destroy the link between the pokedex and gts (I.e. stop limiting you to search for pokes that you've seen) So then people can have pride in saying they got a certain poke and if others didn't like what they got they can TRADE for it like the original game formula intended. No people getting left out, no one gets nothing and things would be better than the crappy event system we have now.

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

I personally think events can be handled better. Why not have a wi-fi shop in game that uses in game currency that has items and pokemon specific to each region and make these items/pokes tradeable on the gts? They could also destroy the link between the pokedex and gts (I.e. stop limiting you to search for pokes that you've seen) So then people can have pride in saying they got a certain poke and if others didn't like what they got they can TRADE for it like the original game formula intended. No people getting left out, no one gets nothing and things would be better than the crappy event system we have now.

Now this is an excellent idea. In-game currency could be generated by the amount of time you play, your PokéDex progress, the amount of trade/link battles you take part in, etc. Far easier on the player than current Event handling.

 

[Weavile05]

I agree, especially with the gts thing. most often, when you want something, you don't have it, and in many cases, haven't seen it. How are you gonna get a legit groudon without ruby through the gts. If you've seen a groudon in DPPlt, most likely you have one.

 

[NickofTime]

its obvious none of the people here are going to convince each other upon the nature of Nintendo or Pokemon events, so i'm going to stop trying

I for one respect all of you that we can have a conversation like this without it getting out of hand and us calling each others names.

Yeah i agree that a shop would be the best way to go, except with a small amount of real money paid per event or something, just so Nintendo can keep making money and keep making the pokemon games that I love.

It would work much like the Nintendo DSi store except with pokemon events

legit groundon is now in pokemon SS btw

Oh yeah moriority you kinda went all super angry, what was up with that? Oh yeah and i went to U.S. for the Darkrai event so i have a newmoon darkrai XD and i have been told there has been a recent event for another Darkrai, but i missed it. :( (but you can get event pokemon more than once, THROUGH EVENTS XD)

Ok wait how about having event pokemon be obtained in game through wifi events about 6 months after the original event took place. The best part of the darkrai event was hanging out with friends talking about pokemon in a hotel room lol NOT the darkrai. such that there would be a real life event for darkrai then 6 months later it would be available to everyone. Thus the mystique of event pokemon would be kept for a while but eventually everyone would get it.

 

[Volroc]

theres a flaw in sumones statement:

MOST events lately have ribbons that cant allow GTS trading.

also you cant trade if you havent seen it
so that leaves out 99% of all beginner pokemon that arent in that region
or at least in sinnoh
cuz pokemon in BF, and WiFi DO NOT get recorded into pokedex.
and that also goes for a ton of other pokemon as well
AKA version exclusives.

another point is the key item events, im sure sumone already stated, you cant clone& send them to others

and my last point is pokewalker routes.... seriously? you start over& the routes go too?
WTF? now that is sum lame programming.
we should keep all event routes,since its downloaded onto it.

also i tihnk you should be able to keep every wonder card, that way if you restart you can get the event again yay :D
then every who got the event is happy
and those who dont get the event, can get it transfered over from HOPEFULLY a friend.

nintendo are money hogs we know this, but their not feedin themselves with events, their feedin the gas companies that people drive to :P lol

 

[shella]

Yeah, I agree that events are way too exclusive. ):

 

[sologuy369]

I think once they realese an event it should stay for ever

I don't. It takes away from the rarity of some pokemon. If that were so, pokemon like darkrai and dexoys would be commen, and that just isn't right!

-sologuy369

 

[Resultz]

Yeah, that wasn't a dig at America, that was just a Britisher being bitter that in the Pokémon world, my country may as well not exist. It annoys me when some American kid is all "WELL JUST GO AND GET THE EVENT GOD STOP COMPLAINING" as NickofTime was doing, and they don't seem to realise that outside of America and Japan you have a tiny chance of getting an Event at all.

Also, I don't disagree with Events in general, just the ones where you can only get that Pokémon if you see the movie or are able to go to a game shop - Darkrai, Shaymin, and possibly Zorua, for example. It's just a way of blackmailing kids and their parents into seeing it and thus making more money, and seriously shafting anybody who doesn't either live near a city or in more special countries but wants to complete their PokéDex. -.-

Your side of the debate is about the most sensible thing i've heard.

whereas USA isnt the most favoured country in the world of pokemon, its blind ignorant for some american to say 'just go get it then',

i bet you all cant imagine life without pokemon movie giveaways and such.. but Europe and australia get completely ignored.

the only way we get events is WiFi. To be honest.EVERY event should be obtainable over WifI, with the movie ones just a bonus if you see the movie... then more people would care about the movie and not just go to get the event.

Its a completely disrespectful way to treat fans outside of Japan and America..

Pokemon Ranger Moriarity, i agree with you 100% completely.
Its stupidly unfair and i dont see how Nintendo are getting away with such extortion.
whats worse, is THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TOO BLIND TO NOT SEE WHATS HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN RETARDED COUNTRY.

Nintendo really should make the event system fair, not so that only people from a certain area of a cerain country can. whats the point of roping in supermarkets and stores that arent in every country? Like americans.. If you had to travel to a Gamestation store in England for your event you wouldnt be best pleased, but thats how it is.

also, why are some events exclusive to certain countries? thats just proposterous. Like what Moriarity said about the album and the songs.. They should really say WHICH if any you cant obtain without an event, or maybe at least make the dex fillable even without events, at least a way of getting them into the dex, like with Manaphy.

What is the benefit of making people physically go places and PAY for the events(film ones) when there's a whole WiFi system to be utilised...

maybe people will see my point

 

[iamdragon]

i agree i recently got on wifi with platinum so it sucks

 

[Charizard★]

I somewhat agree with you that there are to many events, but I actually kinda like some of the events and the system that they use for them :3

 

[Tsavo]

From a marketing perspective, the (wo)man should get a promotion instead of being fired. Whether you agree with that or not is your opinion, but the events generate even more hype/revenue on an already-established cash cow. Game Freak doesn't care about the "injustices" to the fanbase.

 

[RNG Abuser]

its really annoying, events.
but they would not be events if they were always on wifi ;)

 

[Pokemafia]

Events are just messed, If you live in Japan you're fine, but for people in america you have to go to a store that is sometimes really far away (other states), the uk is worse, we never get store events, and barely any wifi, I feel sorry for Australia, they hardly get any events......

 

[Red1530]

The Pokémon event system needs to be totally revamped. Nearly all events need to be done over Wi-Fi as this is will allow for the most people to get the events. After the event is over, the event should be available to buy on the Nintendo Channel.