4th Gen Honestly, whoever thought of events should be fired

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

Ok events aren't necessary to play pokemon games.
All I'm reading is a bunch of hate on Nintendo.
So what if they made a pokemon exclusive its not their fault that you don't live close to a event location. There are plenty of pokemon not exclusive to events that are extremely powerful.
If nintendo hated their fans they wouldn't even make events...

the arguement just because some kids in U.S. are denied a darkrai that nintendo is a facist coporation bent on world domination is just pathetic. You should be thanking Nintendo that they even give the possibility of event pokemon, and that they update the pokemon games. Seriously they put out a pokemon game almost every 2 years and the fanbase will never be satisfied because its just not enough for some people.

First of all, if you wish to complete your PokéDex (IE, fulfil one of the main goals of every Pokémon game since RBY), you have to have some Event Pokémon, such as Darkrai. They aren't necessary to play the games, but they are necessary to complete them.

Secondly, nobody is saying Nintendo is a Facist corporation. What they're saying is that Nintendo takes advantage of the fact that Pokémon has a large child fanbase, and that some of these kids simply can't access Events thanks to them being too far away/not having Wi-Fi etc. etc. I agree that it's sort-of stupid to get completely bent out of shape by it, but do you remember what it was like when you were a kid and you were heartbroken that you couldn't get something? I do.

Thirdly, if Nintendo liked their fans, they would make Events infinitely more accessible. Thanking them for knowing you're going to miss out on one of their biggest advertising points so far for B/W, or not be able to complete your PokéDex on Platinum? Er, no, sorry, not going to. Saying they love us because they make people shell out extra money when they have already paid for the game is...well, laughable. They use Events as a license to print money: that's not liking your fans, that's milking them. It's like with the Sims 3, where EA gave players a minimum amount of content and then expected them to buy the rest from the Sims store, and made the game damn near unmoddable so that fans had no other choice.

None of the cinemas near me show the Pokémon movies, none of the game shops around me run the Events. Is this Nintendo's fault? Yes, it is. It's poor planning, it's poor marketing, and it's a poor outlook on their fans. I'm sure it's not a such problem in the USA, but then again, the USA > the entire planet. Pokémon have fans elsewhere, and we mostly get shafted.

 

[shookie]

None of the cinemas near me show the Pokémon movies, none of the game shops around me run the Events. Is this Nintendo's fault? Yes, it is. It's poor planning, it's poor marketing, and it's a poor outlook on their fans. I'm sure it's not a such problem in the USA, but then again, the USA > the entire planet. Pokémon have fans elsewhere, and we mostly get shafted.

Normally I'd disagree with this (mostly the "USA > entire planet" statement) but this is actually a really good point. It's not a matter of people just live in "the wrong area" but entire countries can miss the opportunity of an event. Australia's* had, what, one event? Europe's had 15 including the three that require Pokémon Ranger.
*in before "lol Australia's a continent"

I'm kind of on the fence, though. I like the idea that there are exclusive events that have a small window, it makes them more unique and harder to get. If they were readily available all the time then people would complain about how "so and so" is so easy to get and doesn't require any extra effort, blah blah blah. I don't think it's very fair to people who just plain old can't access the events, though. I know of people who were in Iraq when events were available, so they missed them, and of course there are people in countries who just don't get anything (as I mentioned).
Plus, this is more a personal issue than anything...I don't want to have to buy a ticket to get a movie event Pokémon. It was okay when I was 9 and the first movie was the greatest thing to happen in my short life, but that was 11 years ago. It's kinda creepy if I go to a Pokémon movie by myself now.

Maybe they could do something like the Watt system with the PokeWalker routes? Unlock so many hours or catch so many Pokémon and you get a new event. I dunno :|

 

[shot571]

If events were available to everyone then they wouldnt be rare. I know what everyone is saying since I remember they had planned an event for deoxys on my ruby and i was so happy and then they cancelled it. However if everyone was able to get the event it wouldnt really be special and then people would complain that they have to wait for a certain pokemon.Although I am pretty pissed with japan and america getting all the cool events.

 

[Tsavo]

USA > the entire planet.

In the realm of Pokemon, it will always be Japan > the entire planet (one can argue that is justifiably so). Not aruging that the US doesn't get there fair share either.

On topic, with the exception of obvious marketing ploys (e.g. Movie-exclusives), I don't understand why anything but Wi-Fi is used.

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

Normally I'd disagree with this (mostly the "USA > entire planet" statement) but this is actually a really good point. It's not a matter of people just live in "the wrong area" but entire countries can miss the opportunity of an event. Australia's* had, what, one event? Europe's had 15 including the three that require Pokémon Ranger.
*in before "lol Australia's a continent"

Yeah, that wasn't a dig at America, that was just a Britisher being bitter that in the Pokémon world, my country may as well not exist. It annoys me when some American kid is all "WELL JUST GO AND GET THE EVENT GOD STOP COMPLAINING" as NickofTime was doing, and they don't seem to realise that outside of America and Japan you have a tiny chance of getting an Event at all.

Also, I don't disagree with Events in general, just the ones where you can only get that Pokémon if you see the movie or are able to go to a game shop - Darkrai, Shaymin, and possibly Zorua, for example. It's just a way of blackmailing kids and their parents into seeing it and thus making more money, and seriously shafting anybody who doesn't either live near a city or in more special countries but wants to complete their PokéDex. -.-

 

[Amore]

Yeah. Britain's screwed over with most things regarding video games..

...still, I bet I can name worse off countries:

-Russia
-Kazakhstan
-Tajikistan
-Afghanistan (Interestingly I got about 40 GTS pokemon that are apparently Afghans)
-Pakistan
-Namibia
-Antarctica
-Tanzania
-Kenya
-Zimbabwe

need I go on? We might aswell be thankful we have the games, the money to afford them, and the freedom to play them. Although I do get depressed when I can only catch 132 out of 151 pokemon in LeafGreen as it can't trade using a DS.

 

[shookie]

Yeah, that wasn't a dig at America, that was just a Britisher being bitter that in the Pokémon world, my country may as well not exist. It annoys me when some American kid is all "WELL JUST GO AND GET THE EVENT GOD STOP COMPLAINING" as NickofTime was doing, and they don't seem to realise that outside of America and Japan you have a tiny chance of getting an Event at all.

Also, I don't disagree with Events in general, just the ones where you can only get that Pokémon if you see the movie or are able to go to a game shop - Darkrai, Shaymin, and possibly Zorua, for example. It's just a way of blackmailing kids and their parents into seeing it and thus making more money, and seriously shafting anybody who doesn't either live near a city or in more special countries but wants to complete their PokéDex. -.-

Well I can't blame you for being bitter :P

Even though I have access to a number of events, I'll admit that 9/10 times I just flat out miss the event. I didn't really get back into playing until around February this year, and by then I had missed Darkrai, Shaymin and the Rotom formes (which I really really want). Obviously I'm not going to complain that I got back into the game five/six months too late when other people live in a country that never got the opportunity. I have an AR, too, but something about using it to get the events I missed feels kinda skeevy.

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

I have an AR, too, but something about using it to get the events I missed feels kinda skeevy.

Yeah, I have an AR which I use to clone and back-up my most valuable Pokémon, but it never crossed my mind to use it for Events. That just seems...wrong, somehow.

 

[Sleet]

I can see where your coming from, It is quite frustrating ;___;

 

[NickofTime]

First of all, if you wish to complete your PokéDex (IE, fulfil one of the main goals of every Pokémon game since RBY), you have to have some Event Pokémon, such as Darkrai. They aren't necessary to play the games, but they are necessary to complete them.

Secondly, nobody is saying Nintendo is a Facist corporation. What they're saying is that Nintendo takes advantage of the fact that Pokémon has a large child fanbase, and that some of these kids simply can't access Events thanks to them being too far away/not having Wi-Fi etc. etc. I agree that it's sort-of stupid to get completely bent out of shape by it, but do you remember what it was like when you were a kid and you were heartbroken that you couldn't get something? I do.

Thirdly, if Nintendo liked their fans, they would make Events infinitely more accessible. Thanking them for knowing you're going to miss out on one of their biggest advertising points so far for B/W, or not be able to complete your PokéDex on Platinum? Er, no, sorry, not going to. Saying they love us because they make people shell out extra money when they have already paid for the game is...well, laughable. They use Events as a license to print money: that's not liking your fans, that's milking them. It's like with the Sims 3, where EA gave players a minimum amount of content and then expected them to buy the rest from the Sims store, and made the game damn near unmoddable so that fans had no other choice.

None of the cinemas near me show the Pokémon movies, none of the game shops around me run the Events. Is this Nintendo's fault? Yes, it is. It's poor planning, it's poor marketing, and it's a poor outlook on their fans. I'm sure it's not a such problem in the USA, but then again, the USA > the entire planet. Pokémon have fans elsewhere, and we mostly get shafted.

How is making events less accessible milking your fans? i would think that would do the opposite, especially by making events, you know, basically free.
Don't get angry, really Nintendo is good at heart they make pokemon games every 2 years and update their games too.
and i live in britain yet i manage to go by without having special event pokemon, I really don't need the recognition. Yes i might have missed out on the rotom forms in platinum but i got them in HG/SS which was cool of Nintendo to make that feature.
Just because kids don't get every event doesn't make the game any less enjoyable. I'm not playing pokemon for the events, i play it for the game
oh yeah i don't understand, events are cool yes and add to gameplay, but do they detract from gameplay in any way if you don't have a event,?
the answer is no.

 

[.Awesome]

Because they can't keep them forever. I mean, if they kept them forever, they would be millions of events out there. But I agree, I'm one of those people.

 

[Charliezard]

They should make specific events for each country to promote wifi trades and at the same time, they should make the pokedex possible to complete for people who can't get access to events. It wouldn't be too hard, srsly.

 

[Clark]

God, yes.

It was worse back before WiFi, but even now it's obnoxious. I don't really mind if it's like. A special movie-based Pokemon or something along those lines, but when you can only obtain a certain kind of Pokemon via event... I dunno, it just seems wrong. Events mean that to some people (probably most people), a few Pokemon will be completely inaccessible in the game. Even with trading it can be a pain to get that event Pokemon, and still then it's not even really yours. I think every Pokemon programmed into the game should be somehow accessible without WiFi or events or anything. I just don't get why it's okay to deny players the Pokemon they want. Not everyone who plays Pokemon can get a ride to the nearest Gamestop on the day of an event. Either they oughtta make events fair or get rid of them completely.

 

[Lil MuDkiP849]

I think every Pokemon programmed into the game should be somehow accessible without WiFi or events or anything.

I highly agree with this, it'd make things much easier on the player if they could just do it themselves

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

How is making events less accessible milking your fans? i would think that would do the opposite, especially by making events, you know, basically free.
Don't get angry, really Nintendo is good at heart they make pokemon games every 2 years and update their games too.
and i live in britain yet i manage to go by without having special event pokemon, I really don't need the recognition. Yes i might have missed out on the rotom forms in platinum but i got them in HG/SS which was cool of Nintendo to make that feature.
Just because kids don't get every event doesn't make the game any less enjoyable. I'm not playing pokemon for the events, i play it for the game
oh yeah i don't understand, events are cool yes and add to gameplay, but do they detract from gameplay in any way if you don't have a event,?
the answer is no.

Um, Events where you have to go and see the movie aren't free. JSYK.

Good for you, but I bet you don't live in the middle of nowhere? I do. Nowhere around here sponsors the events, the cinemas don't show the films. Therefore if I want any of the Pokémon attached to said Events, some of which don't actually appear naturally in the game - I'm screwed. Darkrai? I'll never see one without AR or the ability to trade, thanks to Nintendo believing they didn't need to make him accessible in the game itself. And yet he is mentioned in-game if you do the Cresselia mini-quest! There's a Pokémon stealing dreams, omg! he must be so cool! Where do I get hi- oh. Right. I could only have gotten him if I went to see the movie. Gee, thanks game.

Imagine you have just bought a television. The sales person said you would get 150 channels with it, which makes you more than happy. But then you discover that your favourite channels are only accessible if you take your television to a certain place at a certain time and pay to see a film. Wouldn't that annoy you? It annoys me. When a game says catch 'em all on the back, I go right ahead and assume that means that they are all in the game for my convenience, not helpfully stored on a server somewhere that I can only access if I'm lucky enough to live near where the Events are being held.

Which I'm not. :|

 

[RivalGator]

Ugh...

I have missed so many events in my time it's sickening....

 

[NickofTime]

Um, Events where you have to go and see the movie aren't free. JSYK.

Good for you, but I bet you don't live in the middle of nowhere? I do. Nowhere around here sponsors the events, the cinemas don't show the films. Therefore if I want any of the Pokémon attached to said Events, some of which don't actually appear naturally in the game - I'm screwed. Darkrai? I'll never see one without AR or the ability to trade, thanks to Nintendo believing they didn't need to make him accessible in the game itself. And yet he is mentioned in-game if you do the Cresselia mini-quest! There's a Pokémon stealing dreams, omg! he must be so cool! Where do I get hi- oh. Right. I could only have gotten him if I went to see the movie. Gee, thanks game.

Imagine you have just bought a television. The sales person said you would get 150 channels with it, which makes you more than happy. But then you discover that your favourite channels are only accessible if you take your television to a certain place at a certain time and pay to see a film. Wouldn't that annoy you? It annoys me. When a game says catch 'em all on the back, I go right ahead and assume that means that they are all in the game for my convenience, not helpfully stored on a server somewhere that I can only access if I'm lucky enough to live near where the Events are being held.

Which I'm not. :|

wait wait there are things called film festivals that are basically like that, pay to see films that aren't shown anywhere else. Same thing as concerts and the like.
If you don't get a ticket you can't go to the show kinda thing.

Lets say i want to see metallica but due to the fact thats its really popular and i dont live near the ticket stand; i can't see it cause i can't get a ticket.

Am i going to hate metallica because i couln't go to a exclusive show? no im not, im still going to be fan even if i missed out on something.

I don't see how thats any different than pokemon events.

yeah it sucks that i don't get to go to every event that i would like to, but thats life and it isn't given to you on a platter. The difference between the metallica scenario and the pokemon event scenario is that you can still get the result of the event through trade while i will never see metallica live.

I'm

 

[Pokémon Ranger ✩ Moriarty]

wait wait there are things called film festivals that are basically like that, pay to see films that aren't shown anywhere else. Same thing as concerts and the like.

...Except that. When you pay to go to a concert. You get what you pay for? You don't turn up and find that half of the bands are missing and that you have to go elsewhere to see them, correct? Ditto a film at the film festival. You pay to see the film. That is what you went there for.

Lets say i want to see metallica but due to the fact thats its really popular and i dont live near the ticket stand; i can't see it cause i can't get a ticket.

Am i going to hate metallica because i couln't go to a exclusive show? no im not, im still going to be fan even if i missed out on something.

Except that Metallica will tour several stadiums in several countries, and you have a plethora of ways to get tickets - over the internet, via phone, via eBay, via the shops. With Pokémon, it's a select few stores and cinemas, and if you don't catch the small window they have allocated, or live in the correct country, then you're screwed.

yeah it sucks that i don't get to go to every event that i would like to, but thats life and it isn't given to you on a platter. The difference between the metallica scenario and the pokemon event scenario is that you can still get the result of the event through trade while i will never see metallica live.

This analogy is highly faulty. If Metallica released an album promising seven tracks but there were in fact only five, and you had to pay to download the other two or could only get them at a HMV store in Venezuala for two days during the Icelandic volcano eruption, you'd be pretty annoyed, wouldn't you? I mean, you paid for all seven tracks. They ought to already be there, on the CD. Same with Pokémon games. It doesn't say anywhere on the box, 'Warning, several Pokémon missing. You may have to get them elsewhere.'

*shrug* I agree, life is hard and it's not going to be served up on a platter. That doesn't mean I, or anybody else who doesn't have access to the correct cinemas and stores, have to like it.

 

[shookie]

I don't see how thats any different than pokemon events.

There's a big difference between missing a concert and missing an event. Unless the band is doing their absolute, without a doubt, last tour ever or something happens and the band is completely unable to ever tour ever again, then they'll be on another tour in the near future. There will still be more opportunities to see them since they'll most likely change venues and most well-known bands do international tours as well as continental.
I was going to cite Rolling Stones and Lynyrd Skynyrd as examples but considering the former has had their "last tour" half a dozen times and the latter still tour with new members, those aren't the best examples.

Pokémon events come once and then they're gone. In some cases you can have more than one opportunity to get one kind of Pokémon, but never the same exact kind (you can either get a level 30, 50 or a 70 Deoxys, one of which has the NeverMeltIce, one which requires an in-game event, and the other is just a plain ol' Deoxys). It still stands that it's unfair to countries that don't even get events. I can guarantee that there is at least one person in Australia who wishes they could get their hands on one of those three Deoxys. All they get is Manaphy.

 

[TRMASCOT]

I agree they aren't the best idea, but atleast they usually have more than one event for the same pokemon, and you can always trade for them. I would like a thing where more people could get them, and they weren't just gone forever, sadly that would kill the event's rarity.