FireRed hack: [HotM October 2009] Pokémon ToxicPurple (Team Rocket hack)

[ckret2]

1. Because...Um....good question. I just really need to get bettah at drawing, and this is the only thing I could really think of.

2. D: Stop maken' fun of meh.

3. I meant, is it even possible to CHANGE maps, so they it is a radio tower in the Johto arc? Not that It would really matter.

4. (lol) Isn't it weird how Team Rocket put they're HQ under a GAMECORNER. I mean, serously.

1. XD Okay, good answer.

2. Sorry, wasn't trying to make fun of you. (I consider research to be Srs Bsns.)

3. I'm not going to be using the same Kanto maps for both the Kanto arc and Johto arc. There are too many changes. In Lavender Town, the Pokémon Tower changes shape; in Saffron City, the Magnet Train gets added; Cinnabar Island is destroyed; the Power Plant gets remodeled and upgraded; Unknown Dungeon collapses; and there are even little changes like that new house in Vermilion, a rearrangement of houses in Cerulean, etc.

Plus, all the NPCs will change, and those that DON'T change will need new scripts. Those that need new scripts, I'd have to do some very difficult scripting in order to make them say one thing (or maybe more than one thing), and one (or more) different thing(s) during the Johto arc. And what about the NPCs that disappear completely after the Kanto arc (like Koga in the Fucshia gym) or show up for the first time in the Johto arc (like Janine to replace Koga in the gym)? What would I have to do? Put a flag on every single Kanto arc NPC that will be activated when the timeskip happens, so that they all disappear at the same time, and put a flag on every single Johto arc NPC to clear during the timeskip, so that they'll all appear during the Johto arc? And what about the NPCs that already have flags, to make them appear or disappear *within* one arc or the other, like the Saffron citizens that disappear while Team Rocket takes over and appear again after Team Rocket's defeated? Setting the flag to make them disappear during the Johto arc would mean that the next time you go to Saffron the Team-Rocket-in-charge plot happens all over again, unless I create a second flag to... *babblebabbleflagsbabblescripts*

*ahem* IN CONCLUSION! The easiest solution is to make new maps. So there will be a full set of maps for Gen I/III-era Kanto, a full set of maps for Gen II/IV-era Johto, and a full set of maps for Gen II/IV-era Kanto. So during the Johto arc it'll look like you're back in the same Lavender Town you were in at the start of the game (with the addition of the Kanto Radio Tower), but in reality you're in Lavender Town's evil twin map from the future. Looks the same, but two different places.

4. I dunno, I used to think it was weird, but that's mainly because "Rocket Game Corner" sounds so innocent. And they probably want it to sound innocent, to draw in the naive kids. Think of it as "Rocket Casino" and it makes a lot more sense. I visited Las Vegas once and stayed in a casino hotel. The entire place oozes of sin, greed, and lust of money. (... And lust of other things, naturally...) It was ridiculous. I have never seen any other place in the world where Team Rocket would be more at home. So, sticking them underneath a casino seems pretty fitting to me.

Will you add a titlescreen to this Hack?
Anyways, thanks for answering my question about the "Broken Bridge" stuff.

Yes, I will! I just haven't gotten around to making it and/or finding someone else to make it yet.

 

[Deminx]

um...

I kinda sorta...wana play this...Now....NOW

 

[zack11421]

>.< where is the download

 

[Nigthmare]

>.< where is the download

It's attached in the first page, at the bottom of the crket2 post ^^https://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=124701

 

[Skully367]

1. XD Okay, good answer.

2. Sorry, wasn't trying to make fun of you. (I consider research to be Srs Bsns.)

3. I'm not going to be using the same Kanto maps for both the Kanto arc and Johto arc. There are too many changes. In Lavender Town, the Pokémon Tower changes shape; in Saffron City, the Magnet Train gets added; Cinnabar Island is destroyed; the Power Plant gets remodeled and upgraded; Unknown Dungeon collapses; and there are even little changes like that new house in Vermilion, a rearrangement of houses in Cerulean, etc.

Plus, all the NPCs will change, and those that DON'T change will need new scripts. Those that need new scripts, I'd have to do some very difficult scripting in order to make them say one thing (or maybe more than one thing), and one (or more) different thing(s) during the Johto arc. And what about the NPCs that disappear completely after the Kanto arc (like Koga in the Fucshia gym) or show up for the first time in the Johto arc (like Janine to replace Koga in the gym)? What would I have to do? Put a flag on every single Kanto arc NPC that will be activated when the timeskip happens, so that they all disappear at the same time, and put a flag on every single Johto arc NPC to clear during the timeskip, so that they'll all appear during the Johto arc? And what about the NPCs that already have flags, to make them appear or disappear *within* one arc or the other, like the Saffron citizens that disappear while Team Rocket takes over and appear again after Team Rocket's defeated? Setting the flag to make them disappear during the Johto arc would mean that the next time you go to Saffron the Team-Rocket-in-charge plot happens all over again, unless I create a second flag to... *babblebabbleflagsbabblescripts*

*ahem* IN CONCLUSION! The easiest solution is to make new maps. So there will be a full set of maps for Gen I/III-era Kanto, a full set of maps for Gen II/IV-era Johto, and a full set of maps for Gen II/IV-era Kanto. So during the Johto arc it'll look like you're back in the same Lavender Town you were in at the start of the game (with the addition of the Kanto Radio Tower), but in reality you're in Lavender Town's evil twin map from the future. Looks the same, but two different places.

4. I dunno, I used to think it was weird, but that's mainly because "Rocket Game Corner" sounds so innocent. And they probably want it to sound innocent, to draw in the naive kids. Think of it as "Rocket Casino" and it makes a lot more sense. I visited Las Vegas once and stayed in a casino hotel. The entire place oozes of sin, greed, and lust of money. (... And lust of other things, naturally...) It was ridiculous. I have never seen any other place in the world where Team Rocket would be more at home. So, sticking them underneath a casino seems pretty fitting to me.

1. Yay.
2. I know, I just couldn't think of anything else I could say so I could run away XD
3.Is that actually possible? If it is, well, It could be the first hack that includes Gen 1 kanto, AND Gen 2 kanto :D
4.Hm....I guess....It would be more fitting though if it WAS a casino though, all them casino games....I hate NOE!

 

[UltraXTheMagmaDrapion]

I herd u need a mapr! How 'bout me? I'll give my proof of skill soon, but I need time. Busy life yano? (Term3 holidays just ended...)

 

[Skully367]

I herd u need a mapr! How 'bout me? I'll give my proof of skill soon, but I need time. Busy life yano? (Term3 holidays just ended...)

Actually, Ckret hasn't asked for a mapper in a long time. I myself am a mapper and good mappers tend to have good grammer. I'm not saying your a good mapper if you have good grammer, but bad grammer is usually a give away to mapping skills, or any skills for that matter. I may be wrong, but I would like to see the proof, as soon as possible, please.


[Edit]
Ah...Lets see here. You have applied for a mapper on 3 hacks, no? But, no proof on any? Hm...
You might not know, but the only maps needed are for Johto.

~The Skull

 

[Mister K]

I just got done going through the first mission. It's pretty smooth; I encountered maybe one small bug in an early event where one of Leone's lines overwrites the previous one without clearing the text box first, but that's it. Overall, it's a good hack, and I can't wait for more to be revealed for betaing.

Quick question, though: When do you think you'll include evolution stones? I went and chose Vulpix after experimenting with the trainers, finding that fire is most useful, and I'd eventually like to make her a Ninetales.

 

[ckret2]

I herd u need a mapr! How 'bout me? I'll give my proof of skill soon, but I need time. Busy life yano? (Term3 holidays just ended...)

I'll consider it, but I definitely need proof of work before I say yes. I primarily need help in mapping Johto; so, for proof of work, how about doing Route 32? Just so you know, ToxicPurple isn't going to have maps that look exactly like the originals, but is going to try to make them look more "natural." For an example of what I'm talking about, compare the original Rock Tunnel map to my own remodel of the map. That's the kind of changes I'd like to make between the original maps and the ToxicPurple maps. If you can do Route 32 in that style (in a timely manner...) then I'll see about hiring you full-time as a mapper. :D

Actually, Ckret hasn't asked for a mapper in a long time. I myself am a mapper and good mappers tend to have good grammer. I'm not saying your a good mapper if you have good grammer, but bad grammer is usually a give away to mapping skills, or any skills for that matter. I may be wrong, but I would like to see the proof, as soon as possible, please.


[Edit]
Ah...Lets see here. You have applied for a mapper on 3 hacks, no? But, no proof on any? Hm...
You might not know, but the only maps needed are for Johto.

~The Skull

Please to not be answering people's questions on my behalf. (Unless it's dumb stuff like "where's the download" or "how do I get it to play" because I don't even bother answering those questions anymore...) Yes, I would like to see proof of work, which Razorshadow offered to provide. I don't see why that means you should like to see proof of work, since your approval has no bearing on whether or not I hire someone. No offense meant, but, this is my hack.

You're right, I haven't asked for a mapper in a long time. That's because I don't like repeatedly asking for help. It's not like I'm desperate; I'm technically capable of doing the whole game myself, even if I'd prefer not to since that's so time-consuming. But I'm still open to all applicants. I've never said I'm not. (For that matter, you've said you're a mapper. I'd be happy to have your help if you'd like to offer it. After proof of work, of course. :P)

And yes indeed, I certainly do need Johto maps. All help's appreciated. Even if someone only does one map and then wanders off, that's something I can work with; and even if it's an okay map instead of a great one, if I have to, I can work with that to make a quality map.

By the way, I was looking back at earlier posts and ran across this again. Just out of curiosity...

mission one is done...they will be say...I think 40 quests/missions.

... Where did you get THAT figure? I've never said anything at all about how many missions are going to be in ToxicPurple. In fact, the only post I can find where I refer to the topic says that I've got 3 or 4 official "missions" planned out, and a lot of side-quests that might become official missions later; and that post was from a long, long time ago. Please don't make stuff up about my game.

Quick question, though: When do you think you'll include evolution stones? I went and chose Vulpix after experimenting with the trainers, finding that fire is most useful, and I'd eventually like to make her a Ninetales.

Actually, there'll be a free Fire Stone very soon. It'll be the first and last stone you get for a long, long time. :P But evolutionary stones will be made available for purchase eventually; it just might take a long time and be severely overpriced.

 

[Monzae]

I read this thread and thanked my lucky stars that someone used my favourite words 'toxic' and 'team rocket' in a hack. D=

I can't wait to play!

 

[agel]

there'll be a free Fire Stone very soon. It'll be the first and last stone you get for a long, long time. :P But evolutionary stones will be made available for purchase eventually; it just might take a long time and be severely overpriced.

whoa there is it only a fire stone available cuz thats kinda not fair to those who chose a non firetype starter. but i think it just needs clarification, im sure you meant for it to be like we get whichever stone corresponds to our starter's type, correct?

if not its still ok actually, since the other two starters evolve once anyways before needing the stone.... so it could work out ok... or the other reason is that you have something against oddishes and poliwags lol! or just a crush on vulpixs xD

 

[Vined]

I think this is an excellent hack and thorougly enjoyed the beta, alpha whatever you want to call it :P I really enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to more. Best I've seen around here.

 

[ckret2]

I read this thread and thanked my lucky stars that someone used my favourite words 'toxic' and 'team rocket' in a hack. D=

I can't wait to play!

A few awesome words, there. Glad you like, and I hope the hack lives up to your expectations!

whoa there is it only a fire stone available cuz thats kinda not fair to those who chose a non firetype starter. but i think it just needs clarification, im sure you meant for it to be like we get whichever stone corresponds to our starter's type, correct?

if not its still ok actually, since the other two starters evolve once anyways before needing the stone.... so it could work out ok... or the other reason is that you have something against oddishes and poliwags lol! or just a crush on vulpixs xD

Actually, at this point, it is just a Fire Stone. (There's a logical in-game reason for this, AND a logical out-of-game reason. I'm not giving the in-game one.) Since Vulpix can evolve immediately, I'd rather get the Fire Stone out to players first, so that those who want to evolve their starter ASAP can do so if they have a Vulpix. Since Oddish and Poliwag each have to evolve once, I can provide Leaf and Water Stones for them later. (... Or a Sun Stone for Bellossom or a PokéToaster for Politoed...)

But no, I have nothing against Oddish or Poliwag. And I'd prefer to remain just friends with Vulpix, haha.

 

[Skully367]

I'll consider it, but I definitely need proof of work before I say yes. I primarily need help in mapping Johto; so, for proof of work, how about doing Route 32? Just so you know, ToxicPurple isn't going to have maps that look exactly like the originals, but is going to try to make them look more "natural." For an example of what I'm talking about, compare the original Rock Tunnel map to my own remodel of the map. That's the kind of changes I'd like to make between the original maps and the ToxicPurple maps. If you can do Route 32 in that style (in a timely manner...) then I'll see about hiring you full-time as a mapper. :D



Please to not be answering people's questions on my behalf. (Unless it's dumb stuff like "where's the download" or "how do I get it to play" because I don't even bother answering those questions anymore...) Yes, I would like to see proof of work, which Razorshadow offered to provide. I don't see why that means you should like to see proof of work, since your approval has no bearing on whether or not I hire someone. No offense meant, but, this is my hack.

You're right, I haven't asked for a mapper in a long time. That's because I don't like repeatedly asking for help. It's not like I'm desperate; I'm technically capable of doing the whole game myself, even if I'd prefer not to since that's so time-consuming. But I'm still open to all applicants. I've never said I'm not. (For that matter, you've said you're a mapper. I'd be happy to have your help if you'd like to offer it. After proof of work, of course. :P)

And yes indeed, I certainly do need Johto maps. All help's appreciated. Even if someone only does one map and then wanders off, that's something I can work with; and even if it's an okay map instead of a great one, if I have to, I can work with that to make a quality map.

By the way, I was looking back at earlier posts and ran across this again. Just out of curiosity...
... Where did you get THAT figure? I've never said anything at all about how many missions are going to be in ToxicPurple. In fact, the only post I can find where I refer to the topic says that I've got 3 or 4 official "missions" planned out, and a lot of side-quests that might become official missions later; and that post was from a long, long time ago. Please don't make stuff up about my game.

1. Meh, I've got a few maps, but I'm to lazy to post themz XD
2. Lol, sorry, I went over the top. I guess it wouldn't be that even if you counted the side-quests. But, yeah, There will be atleast 10 0fficial missions right? Pleeeeease.... XD

 

[Johtomasterandlover]

I´ve played it and
AWSOME
just to know where does the alpha 1 ends?

 

[ckret2]

1. Meh, I've got a few maps, but I'm to lazy to post themz XD
2. Lol, sorry, I went over the top. I guess it wouldn't be that even if you counted the side-quests. But, yeah, There will be atleast 10 0fficial missions right? Pleeeeease.... XD

1. All right then, let me know if you ever change your mind. Help with mapping is still welcome.

2. The point isn't the size of the number you made up, it's the fact that you made up a number without any evidence to support it, and then presented it like it was a well-founded estimate. Please don't do that.

I´ve played it and
AWSOME
just to know where does the alpha 1 ends?

Alpha 1 ends after you get the Machete. After that, you can go downstairs, hack up some Cut shrubs on Route 8, and wander around if you'd like. :P Just don't battle the Fighting Dojo or Sabrina's Gym, or get the Psychic TM from Mr. Psychic, because doing that will mess up the game later on.

 

[General Vsyo]

Wow. I first heard about this hack...yep, almost a year ago, before it even started, but got distracted and didn't check up on the thread again (or join the forum) until now. Just played the alpha and I'm amazed. This is everything I've ever wanted out of a Team Rocket game. I'm enjoying the genuine Rocket experience by starting with a pathetic ratatta, stealing from a little girl, etc., and especially the lack of HMs and gyms. The dialogue is one of the best parts - had me laughing out loud. The plot sounds awesome and challenging. Even the anime cameos, which I was a bit skeptical of before playing, were handled very well.

I don't really have any suggestions, just saying I love your ideas, and good job on such a promising hack - best I've ever played so far. Thanks for keeping it alive.

 

[Skully367]

1. All right then, let me know if you ever change your mind. Help with mapping is still welcome.

2. The point isn't the size of the number you made up, it's the fact that you made up a number without any evidence to support it, and then presented it like it was a well-founded estimate. Please don't do that.

1. Oh, I`m not saying that I wouldn`t map for you. Though currently I am terribly ill. Now I feel bad about yelling at razorshadow.
2. Sorry sir, it won`t happen again sir.

 

[ethian46]

where do we get toxic purple supporter banners

 

[Skully367]

where do we get toxic purple supporter banners

...Are you serious?....First post -_-