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If you had proof that God does not exist, would you publish your findings?

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    If you had somehow managed to disprove the existance of God, would you publish your findings, or would you allow people to carry on believing?

    I would publish my findings. I do not believe that all of the suffering and wars involving religion would just go away - people would just find different reasons to fight. But I do think there would be some improvements in the world, like women in Middle Eastern countries might start to gain more rights, and it would be easier for women to get abortions because nobody would believe in souls.
     
    It is impossible to prove the existence or non-existence of God due to the fact that earthly-world logic and physics cannot be applied to an all-powerful deity who creates said logic.

    Nuff said really. I can't say anything on the current question.
     
    There is no need to publish, as any logical and intelligent person can work out for themselves that there is not a big guy watching our every move and going to welcome us to his cloudy afterlife when we die.

    God doesn't exist. Ok?
     
    I'd rather not. People will still have their beliefs, and if religion could do anything positive that was only achievable by their religion, I would rather have people find out by themselves.
    I would still show it to a few people though, I just wouldn't publish it for public use.

    Wait, isn't it impossible to prove a negative?
    …BUT I do not like atheists because they are traitors to the world…
    Here is to hoping you're just trolling.
     
    Seeing as I'm a Muslim, I really wouldn't do this...

    ...but religion aside, I guess I would. But that would lead to a hell of a lot of chaos for those who believe, no?
     
    There is no need to publish, as any logical and intelligent person can work out for themselves that there is not a big guy watching our every move and going to welcome us to his cloudy afterlife when we die.

    God doesn't exist. Ok?

    That's not the point. This would be irrefutable evidence that nobody in the world could deny, and everybody in the world would know about it.
     
    If a person's faith is as strong as it's supposed to be, they wouldn't believe you anyway. However i wouldn't. I bet the mind of a righteous person that gets corrupted is worse than one who had no sense of morals in the first place.
     
    No.

    1. People would not believe me
    2. The Catholic Church would kill me (srs)
    3. I would have probably stopped many people from feeling the placebo that someone loves them. For those people who feel they have nothing left, God is the answer. If you take God out...what do they have to live for?
    4. Crime would probably go up
    5. People would have no reason to be moral

    People need faith. In SOMETHING. Just about every civilization believed in some kind of higher being. It's what has kept humanity sane and civil. If you take that out of the picture, we'd be left with something close to chaos.
     
    That's not the point. This would be irrefutable evidence that nobody in the world could deny, and everybody in the world would know about it.

    I see.

    Well, then I'd publish. Clearly, seeing as most of the world is deluded into believeing in this "God" person, it would be foolish not to quickly and cleanly disprove everything they believe in and force them to start living like normal folks.
     
    I wouldn't do it. Even though I'm not affiliated with any religion, I don't see why people should have their hopes crushed. I mean, don't people believe in their religion, or believe in a god because they think it will do them good? That's why I say that I think it's alright to follow whatever religion you believe in as long as it makes you a better person.
     
    I see.

    Well, then I'd publish. Clearly, seeing as most of the world is deluded into believeing in this "God" person, it would be foolish not to quickly and cleanly disprove everything they believe in and force them to start living like normal folks.

    Ignorance is bliss. What if I told you you live in the Matrix and that everything around you is a projection? Nothing is real. What if I could prove that? I think some people are better off not knowing and believing in the reality that makes them happy. People don't just believe in God because they're mindless zombies who fear him, it's because they feel it completes their life and gives them something to live for.

    In a sardonic way, it's like putting a hallucinator on a sobering drug; once you take away his fake friends, he will feel that loneliness that comes with the realization that they were in fact hallucinations and ultimately, kill himself of loneliness. This is actually a real result of such a situation. I'm not asking you to agree with what I say, but understand it at least.
     
    We should name this day Controversial Topic Day. This thread is, like, the cherry on top of Other Chat. Seriously, abortion, creationism, genetically modifying children and now god.

    I wouldn't publish. I like not being killed by religious fundamentalists. People will believe what they want to believe and only the kind of people who read and listen to scientific studies would be swayed by proof.
     
    No.

    1. People would not believe me
    2. The Catholic Church would kill me (srs)
    3. I would have probably stopped many people from feeling the placebo that someone loves them. For those people who feel they have nothing left, God is the answer. If you take God out...what do they have to live for?
    4. Crime would probably go up
    5. People would have no reason to be moral

    People need faith. In SOMETHING. Just about every civilization believed in some kind of higher being. It's what has kept humanity sane and civil. If you take that out of the picture, we'd be left with something close to chaos.
    I want to agree with you, I honestly do, but I just can't since most people use their religion as an excuse to murder. I can't remember the last time a nonreligious person drove an airplane into a building or sacrificed a virgin for the gods, so feel free to tell me if I'm wrong. You don't need a divine being to have morals.
    Ignorance is bliss.
    Maybe for some. But I, like many others, find the pursuit and advancement of knowledge to be my biggest pleasure.
    People don't just believe in God because they're mindless zombies who fear him, it's because they feel it completes their life and gives them something to live for.
    You don't know some of the people I know. They don't have a real reason for believing, other than they were raised or they just had an epiphany. If you asked them what John 3:16 was, they probably wouldn't know without a bible on hand.


    I'm such a debbie downer about these subjects ;;
     
    Gonna dissect this cause I can.

    I want to agree with you, I honestly do, but I just can't since most people use their religion as an excuse to murder. I can't remember the last time a nonreligious person drove an airplane into a building or sacrificed a virgin for the gods, so feel free to tell me if I'm wrong. You don't need a divine being to have morals.
    About ten people did the hijacking.
    20% of Muslims are Shiite.
    90% of those Shiites live in Iran.

    Don't use the word 'MOST'.
    So...you're wrong.
     
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    Gonna dissect this cause I can.


    About ten people did the hijacking.
    20% of Muslims are Shiite.
    90% of those Shiites live in Iran.

    Don't use the word 'MOST'.
    So...you're wrong.

    110%?
    I'm not talking just about that, but I'm also talking about terrorism in general. Sure, there are terrorist communist groups, and many communists are atheist, but that doesn't really count since you can have either one without the other.

    Alright, a minor slip-up on my case. But I do know too much people that will use anything so they don't have to have a bad conscience.
     
    I see.

    Well, then I'd publish. Clearly, seeing as most of the world is deluded into believeing in this "God" person, it would be foolish not to quickly and cleanly disprove everything they believe in and force them to start living like normal folks.


    theirs a problem with your saying of " normal folks.
    In order to be " normal " their has to be like over 50% on one side becuase then thats the normality and the other 49% is the minority.

    33% of the world is christian
    1 percent is jewish
    20% is muslim
    36%
    and
    10% is aithiest

    Face it since the dawn of time since man could THINK people who dont beleive in a higher power are the minority

    and also no no i wouldnt for the same 5 reasons that other dude said
     

    :|
    I'm not talking just about that, but I'm also talking about terrorism in general. Sure, there are terrorist communist groups, and many communists are atheist, but that doesn't really count since you can have either one without the other.
    This is a religion thread! Not terrorism!

    Alright, a minor slip-up on my case. But I do know too much people that will use anything so they don't have to have a bad conscience.

    Believing in God helps build a conscience. That's what fear of God is.

    You don't know some of the people I know. They don't have a real reason for believing, other than they were raised or they just had an epiphany. If you asked them what John 3:16 was, they probably wouldn't know without a bible on hand.

    I've read teh whole Bibalz and I don't know what John 3:16 is. Doesn't mean I don't know what John's saying though!
    Do you know what Steven Stone says when you beat him?
    WELL THEN, YOU MUST NOT HAVE FINISHED POKEMON R/S HAVE YOU?!
    That's silly.
    Also, epiphanies are good, don't diss them. Many famous people today are were they are because of epiphanies. Take Ellen. Before she decided to do comedy, her (secret) girlfriend died in a car crash. She was depressed, and decided to write a letter to God. She used that letter and decided to do comedy with it. And she did. Look where she is now.
     
    It's impossible to prove something exist or not, you'd have to know the whole universe.

    The question sounds just pointless like "if you had super powers would you do X or not?".
     
    Well, if that was to happen, then I wouldn't really know what to do with it at all, I wouldn't see the point in living or learning, it would just leave me completely mystified. But if I had to choose between making it public or not, then I would choose not to because some people wouldn't believe it and as Chibi-Chan said, crime would go up because people would think they could do anything and there would be no punishment after dieing. It would also probably put religious parts of the world to a stand still except for atheists of course.

    But ifs aside, I think this would be impossible to prove since God is realer than us and created us, and anyway, I can't even get a thought of what it could be that would prove the non-existence of God.
     
    :|

    This is a religion thread! Not terrorism!

    You know very well what my message was.



    Believing in God helps build a conscience. That's what fear of God is.

    Opinion. I don't remember myself ever believing in god, but I still feel guilty, even for small things that I did wrong. Well, I think that's what you meant. I'm not really sure since my mind is working like **** on me again.

    I've read teh whole Bibalz and I don't know what John 3:16 is. Doesn't mean I don't know what John's saying though!
    Do you know what Steven Stone says when you beat him?
    WELL THEN, YOU MUST NOT HAVE FINISHED POKEMON R/S HAVE YOU?!
    That isn't really my whole point. My point was that there are people that believe for no reason.
    I honestly believe that if you are going to believe something, you should at least know part of what you believe in.

    Also, epiphanies are good, don't diss them. Many famous people today are were they are because of epiphanies. Take Ellen. Before she decided to do comedy, her (secret) girlfriend died in a car crash. She was depressed, and decided to write a letter to God. She used that letter and decided to do comedy with it. And she did. Look where she is now.

    Cherry picking. An epiphany wouldn't be good if someone was told to murder their wife and kids, or mutilate their baby in the name of whatever the hell they believe. But yeah, I'm cherry picking too :(
     
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