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is wobbuffet rally uber

i think its because nintendo and all them, are scared, that if two wobbuffet battled, it would be a tie. and they dont like ties. or struggle- offs
 
uh is driftblim one im not sure lol

and i said you will lose atleast one as you cant switch^
 
PokemonMichael said:
i think its because nintendo and all them, are scared, that if two wobbuffet battled, it would be a tie. and they dont like ties. or struggle- offs
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Two Shadow Tag pokemon can switch out in D/P/Plat. That glitch only happens in previous gens.
 
Two Wobbuffet battling? Now that would be something..
Imagine that. Neither can attack each other..
But the Shadow Tag glitch would be helpful, if one or both players knew about it.
Otherwise, trying to battle two Wobbuffet is pretty worthless.
Yeah.. the only potential OHKOer for Wobbuffet would be a fast Dark type that knows Shadow Ball.
CoughWeavileCough.
Or if you wanna get technical, any powerful Dark move.
Back on topic, like I said, dude.. if you want people to battle you lose the Wobbuffet.
No one likes a punching bag that delivers it right back.
 
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~ Yukishii said:

Yeah.. the only potential OHKOer for Wobbuffet would be a fast Dark type that knows Shadow Ball.
CoughWeavileCough.
Or if you wanna get technical, any powerful Dark move.
Back on topic, like I said, dude.. if you want people to battle you lose the Wobbuffet.
No one likes a punching bag that delivers it right back.
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The most powerful Dark move in the game, Band STAB Crunch from Tyranitar, can't OHKO Wobbuffet.

As for Weavile...or any dark type that doesn't have horrib special attack, carrying Shadow Ball, that reeks of overcentralization. Weavile's special attack is absolutely horrid, and when Wobba inevitably switches out, you'll have a Weavile that's useless against everyone except Wobbuffet.

EDIT: I know you're agreeing with me, but these points always get bought up, and it's important to show that they aren't valid.
 
I did say potential one hit KO.
Actually, the most powerful Dark move in the game is Judgement with Dark Plate attached to Arceus.
But if you don't count ubers, then sure, Tyranitar.
It doesn't have to be Shadow Ball.. Since Weavile has good attack, then use Shadow Claw.
Nothing really can OHKO Wobbuffet, that is obvious. But isn't Wobby restricted by the fact it can't use more then one shield at a time?
[I don't know a whole lot about how the shields work.. but I'm assuming only one can be used at a time. Correct me if I'm wrong.]
So let's say it uses Mirror Coat, then use a physical move. Or if it uses Counter, use a special move.
If your lucky and the person using Wobbuffet doesn't know alot about Weavile then it will use Mirror Coat.
I was suggesting Weavile cause it's fast, and you can probably get Wobby down in either two or three hits..
Though Weavile might go down as well considering the Destiny Bond move.. but then again Weavile would be mainly for Wobby right?

 
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~ Yukishii said:
I did say potential one hit KO.
Actually, the most powerful Dark move in the game is Judgement with Dark Plate attached to Arceus.
But if you don't count ubers, then sure, Tyranitar.
It doesn't have to be Shadow Ball.. Since Weavile has good attack, then use Shadow Claw.
Nothing really can OHKO Wobbuffet, that is obvious. But isn't Wobby restricted by the fact it can't use more then one shield at a time?
[I don't know a whole lot about how the shields work.. but I'm assuming only one can be used at a time. Correct me if I'm wrong.]
So let's say it uses Mirror Coat, then use a physical move. Or if it uses Counter, use a special move.
If your lucky and the person using Wobbuffet doesn't know alot about Weavile then it will use Mirror Coat.
I was suggesting Weavile cause it's fast, and you can probably get Wobby down in either two or three hits..
Though Weavile might go down as well considering the Destiny Bond move.. but then again Weavile would be mainly for Wobby right?
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Umm, any Wobbeffet carries both Mirror Coat and Counter, I believe - and it doesn't get locked into either move when they use it or anything like that. No way to predict that, as it simply isn't the case. (And if it was, Encore would negate it). Plus - those two moves go last anyway in the turn.

And if anyone decided to use Mirror Coat against Weavile, then I'd think they wouldn't know a thing about competitive battling then, as it's general knowledge it hits with physical attacks.. =/

Basically - Wobbeffet is very hard to beat without some luck and without losing a Pokemon to it - hence why it is in Ubers.
 
Wobbuffet is considered uber due to the fact that it may stay on the field for a long time, but as the moves attack last, you can't predict what the opponent will use, so you need a vast knowledge of pokemon, yadda yadda yadda. Yes, he is uber because he did over 600 damage in one hit! If you can OHKO him (good luck) then you have a good pokemon or the Wobbuffet sucks.
 
Wobbufet has become uber during the fourth generation, for the simple motive that because of its trait, ruined the battles it entered against the sweeper of turn it used the Mirror Coat or the Counter and the Pokémon adversary eliminated you, accompanied by a Wisher but also wanting from an U-Turner in the OU metagame practically becomes invincible, without counting that he learns very annoying movements as Encore.

In reality a true counter exists:
- Toxic Dugtrio: through his trait it prevents Wobbufet to go out through a change of Pokémon, and it does it die turn after turn because of Toxic.

- Physical Gengar (or other physical ghosts): It doesn't suffer damage from Counter.

- Special Dark Type: It doesn't suffer damage from a Mirror Coat.
 
Sebastien Loeb said:
Wobbufet has become uber during the fourth generation, for the simple motive that because of its trait, ruined the battles it entered against the sweeper of turn it used the Mirror Coat or the Counter and the Pokémon adversary eliminated you, accompanied by a Wisher but also wanting from an U-Turner in the OU metagame practically becomes invincible, without counting that he learns very annoying movements as Encore.

In reality a true counter exists:
- Toxic Dugtrio: through his trait it prevents Wobbufet to go out through a change of Pokémon, and it does it die turn after turn because of Toxic.

- Physical Gengar (or other physical ghosts): It doesn't suffer damage from Counter.

- Special Dark Type: It doesn't suffer damage from a Mirror Coat.
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Even U-Turn isn't fool proof. If you U-Turn to a Pokemon that takes damage from Counter (IE anyone besides ghost types), it'll receive the damage.

Toxic anything can get screwed over if Wobbuffet uses Safeguard, which isn't too uncommon. Also, Dugtrio isn't exactly commonly used in the Uber environment.

lol no one uses "physical Gengar". If it was used soley for Wobbuffet, it'd reak over-centralization AND would suck against everything else. The only worthwhile physical move Gengar learns is Explosion, only due to it's huge base power.

Special Dark type is...like, what, houndoom and that's it?

Basically, all of these would be useful against ONLY Wobba and would suck against everything else. And they aren't really counters since NOTHING CAN SWITCH INTO WOBBA anyway without having U-Turn/BP/also having Wobba out.
 
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