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6th Gen It's Team Fab--I mean, Team Flare!

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    Every generation of Pokemon games has a unique villain team; defeating them and stopping their plans has always been one of the main goals of the storylines. The team in Kalos is Team Fabulous Team Flair Team Flare, a group of people who dress in a little too much orange and whose boss is hell-bent on killing off 99.9% of the human population.

    How do you feel about Team Flare as a villainous team? How do they compare to past villain teams, like Team Rocket or Team Plasma?
     
    0/10 they suck worst team ever -ign
     
    I'm compelled to agree. There's usually a good reason for each team trying to change things. Like, what did Team Flare think would happen when they succeeded? They were fairly silly in their efforts.
     
    They fail, but they fail with (misguided) style.

    Same with the initial versions of Team Plasma and Team Galactic.


    I think maybe they purposefully designed them to look stupid, so we'd have no qualms with beating their asses.

    Rocket, Magma, and Aqua were and are the better villains. And Team Plasma when they were back in black.
     
    PumpJack said:
    Rocket, Magma, and Aqua were and are the better villains. And Team Plasma when they were back in black.
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    IDK, Team Magma/Aqua was one of the lesser teams imo. They're actually comparable to Team Flare to me: grunts have no idea why they're doing what they're doing, bosses have noble sounding plans but don't understand how their plans will work in the long run nor do they go into depth on why they're doing things in the first place.

    Which, yeah, I also think that Team Flare wasn't a very good villainous team. They (or rather, Lysandre) had potential, but it was horribly wasted.
     
    Zekrom said:
    IDK, Team Magma/Aqua was one of the lesser teams imo. They're actually comparable to Team Flare to me: grunts have no idea why they're doing what they're doing, bosses have noble sounding plans but don't understand how their plans will work in the long run nor do they go into depth on why they're doing things in the first place.

    Which, yeah, I also think that Team Flare wasn't a very good villainous team. They (or rather, Lysandre) had potential, but it was horribly wasted.
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    Truth be told, I'm mostly going off by design, since the stories in Pokémon are such a laughably minor part of the games. I can't really remember them.


    I really wish that Gamefreak would recognise the fact that a huge part (perhaps even the bigger part) of their fanbase are people far past single-digit age.


    If you tried to translate the stories into a book, good luck stretching it into even a single page.
     
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    They where okay though I felt like they didn't really explain what there main goals where really well in the game, so in a way I feel like they where just thrown in there for silly/laughs
     
    They had funny dialogue and stylish outfits, at least, and Lysandre's goals were ones that I actually found something else. If "trying to make the region beautiful" was their goal, and wiping out everything was how they would do it, I don't think they were that shallow. The whole genocide and wanting to kill everything for themselves role was quite dark. They're not my favorite villainous team, but Lysandre had a very ambitious goal going for him. So if nothing else, they were funny.
     
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    They had funny dialogue and stylish outfits, at least, and Lysandre's goals were ones that I actually found something else. If "trying to make the region beautiful" was their goal, and wiping out everything was how they would do it, I don't think they were that shallow. The whole genocide and wanting to kill everything for themselves role was quite dark. They're not my favorite villainous team, but Lysandre had a very ambitious goal going for him. So if nothing else, they were funny.
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    I agree!

    I did like his Mega stone he had for Gyrados so he a formidable foe alot tougher than alot of the older gen leaders that's for sure.
     
    What separates them from other villainous groups is their style, I agree; it's not common to see bad people run around the region with orange suits and hair. It would have been nice had their primary color were rather black--this would have made them look as if they were some secret agency of sorts--which would've been cool, but this isn't that much of a bad choice.

    Though, only thing I dislike about these guys is their involvement into games. Unfortunately, things seemed to be pretty light; they were found here and there, but haven't done much things that would affect any event majorly. If they're returning in Z, hope they change that, and start playing more of a big role!
     
    I kinda liked Team Flare, especially the hilarious dialogue from the grunts that includes some cute shoutouts to Toy Story and The Bee Gees among a few other things.

    Also, the fact they want to wipe out all who aren't part of Team Flare is very akin to genocide which is in my thoughts one of the scariest plots ever by a villainous team. It shows don't let their looks fool you.
     
    I do agree that Lysandre's goal was an an ambitious and dark one, but the problem for me was the lack of depth it had. Lysandre states that he feels that the world is being marred by humanity and that genocide is the only answer to save the beautiful world, but it never goes deeper than that. Why exactly does Lysandre feel this way? How did he arrive to the conclusion that genocide is the way? What do the higher ranked members of Team Flare think of his plan? They could've had some other characters chime in on how they feel about the world. Ask the player about their feelings about the world. Also, I wish that they had a little more story involvement, like Ashley said.

    Or am I asking for too much outta a Pokemon story?

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    It would have been nice had their primary color were rather black--this would have made them look as if they were some secret agency of sorts--
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    Game Freak please do this one day.
     
    I think we're all aware of how stylin' women look in suits, and of the strong comeback that vinyl clothing is making in the fashion world since its brief foray in the 80's.

    I thought the hokiest part of the whole Team Flare presentation was Lysandre's public broadcast at their twilight hour, that pretty much said, "Hey, we're gonna blow up the world and if you're not in Team Flare, sucks to be you." Not believable in the slightest.

    The series suffers from Captain America syndrome for its villains.
     
    I'm sorry, I totally meant Captain Planet syndrome. The show suffered from a cast of completely unbelievable villains, which didn't help the cause of stopping pollution and raising a better generation.
     
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    Eh... They're too evil to be on the same level as Team Magma or Aqua, who are just a bunch of nuts summoning Leviathan and Behemoth for reasons that really weren't thought out well by either team and as a result really couldn't be taken seriously, too flat to be on the level of Team Galactic or Team Plasma, which both had good leaders with a lot of depth and really felt threatening, and too complex to be on the same level as Team Rocket, who are the Pokemon mafia, and don't need much depth because they didn't really HAVE any goals other than making money off Pokemon, and didn't really need any. They have the goal of completely killing everyone other than themselves, but really don't have a reason for that goal other than "oh, the world has too many people in it," and absolutely nobody treats Lysandre like a proper villain except for your party. Heck AZ had more depth than all of them combined, and actually had a believable reason for building a immortality-inducing death machine, and he's a very minor character that only appears a few times. Thus, I guess they're the Magikarp of evil Pokemon teams. Evil, but not threatening enough. Goofy, but too evil to laugh at. Too complex, yet not nearly complex enough.
     
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