LGBT Debate

[peirateis]

I don't think there's anything wrong with homosexuality. Our sexual orientation isn't something we choose. I didn't choose to be straight. I don't remember thinking to myself one day "Hey I'm going to be straight!". I'm sure gay people didn't just say "Hey, I think I'll be gay!". Why anyone would think that sexuality is a choice is beyond me. I'm sure some sort of biological, genetic or environmental factors come into play, but how can we possibly control these factors? You cannot choose your sexuality.

Of course you choose it! If I just broke down right this second and made out with a guy after I've lived a life with no signs whatsoever of homosexuality, would you still say that it was biological? People who say that it's not a choice are just the people who don't want to take responsibility for making that decision.

It's true that heterosexual partners are required to continue the human race, but that doesn't explain why homosexual behavior occurs in other animal species, which has been well documented. I'm fairly certain that other animals don't choose to be gay or straight, and while one may argue that they don't have the brain capacity to choose, it doesn't take away from the fact that we're all essentially animals on this earth. It's a perfectly natural occurence.

So we should just allow ourselves to be lowered to the same level as animals?

And they also need to stop bringing religion into the argument. Quite frankly, it has nothing to do with it.

I think everyone else needs to stop pushing religion out of the argument. It has everything to do with it.

 

[.Ozymandias]

I feel that people should be who they want to be - gay, straight, transexual, naked and painted pink with purple spots if they want. The only time anything like that gets to me is when it's pushed in my face, like a gay female friend of mine kissing me and then slapping me when I pulled away calling me homophobic. But, gay couples kissing and holding hands and stuff makes me happy to see them so at ease with themselves.

 

[Metatron]

Whether or not homosexuality is a choice, or something you're born with, it doesn't matter to me. There's nothing wrong with it, and I don't see why it continues to still be such a controversial topic in our society today; I read a statistic once that said 1/10 people are homosexual, and 1/5 are bisexual. I'm not entirely sure how accurate this is, but regardless, a huge number of the world's population is attracted to members of the same gender as themselves. We can't keep looking at it as if homosexuality is some sort of "disease," and although I myself am straight, I get offended when I see people throwing the word "gay" around as if it's somehow a negative thing (not to be confused with the word "ghey" :P).

As for being transsexual, I'm gonna be perfectly honest; I don't understand it. I have no right to judge anyone else for their lifestyle; I just don't see how anyone would want to alter their body that much. =/

I think everyone else needs to stop pushing religion out of the argument. It has everything to do with it.

...How so? Not everyone believes in the idea that some magical creature that no one has ever seen before created mankind, or relies on some 2,000 year old book to live their life by. If anything, you'd think that the more religious people would be tolerant towards those with different sexual preferences. I mean, isn't the whole basis of your religion built up on the idea of peace, love, and equality? I find it ironic how the atheist community is more willing to accept these people than those who openly practice religion x_x

 

[Bianca Paragon]

I think everyone else needs to stop pushing religion out of the argument. It has everything to do with it.

Sorry? Why does what your imaginary friend think about who I sleep with mean a damn thing to me? :3

 

[Ivysaur]

Of course you choose it! If I just broke down right this second and made out with a guy after I've lived a life with no signs whatsoever of homosexuality, would you still say that it was biological? People who say that it's not a choice are just the people who don't want to take responsibility for making that decision.

...wait, are you saying that a straight guy could go right now and do it with another guy out of the blue, without having showed signs of homsexuality before? o_o Unless that person was completely drunk, I can't even thnk of that happening.

So we should just allow ourselves to be lowered to the same level as animals?

We actually are animals, another, very different thing, is the use we give to our brain, which is far superior. But yeah, we basically are animals.

I think everyone else needs to stop pushing religion out of the argument. It has everything to do with it.

If you are religious, you have all the right in the world to use it to show your opinions. But I don't see why atheistic people should take that into account, really.

 

[s0nido]

My religion bans this and says that these are just some of the signs leading up to the Day of Judgment. But I really can't do much about it though. It's a person's choice to be straight, gay, bisexual or transgender, even though I may discourage these activities.

It seems there is a reason for homosexuality to be banned from many religions. Our Prophet (I'm a Muslim, so I'm referring to Muhammad) predicted several signs leading to the end of the world. He mentioned the fact that the number of gay people would increase and men would begin to imitate women and vice versa. Then Allah (The God of Muslims) would send down a disease that the people have never seen before. AIDS, anyone?

 

[Aurafire]

Just adding to what Went said, you can't just make the choice one day and say "Hey I want to be gay!". Homosexuality isn't some special form of sexuality. It's merely an attraction to the opposite sex, behavior that is perfectly natural in the natural world. We are basically animals just like everything else on earth.

I think everyone else needs to stop pushing religion out of the argument. It has everything to do with it.

No, it doesn't. That would imply that your religion applies to everyone, which is false. What you believe is not what I have to believe, and when it comes to religion, no one can claim that they're beliefs are the absolute truth (no matter how much we argue, no one is ever going to win. Not everyone has faith, and you should respect that). Therefore, you can't bring religion into the argument.

 

[Netto Azure]

ZOMG! Here we go again. >.>

How many LGBT threads have been there?
Proposition 8 (California)
What do you think of gay marrage
Girl bullied on XBL, M$ ban victim.
etc...

Seriously, I fully support Gay Rights even though I admit that I find it "weird." LOL, I still laugh at crack yohwee ships XD

No need to start infringing on ones rights due to personal beliefs. Just leave them alone and stop the witch hunts. It just makes the Right-wingers look all the more bad.

I have to agree with Aura that putting religious beliefs into the issue of Homosexuality is a self defeating purpose...

 

[Patchy]

My religion bans this and says that these are just some of the signs leading up to the Day of Judgment. But I really can't do much about it though. It's a person's choice to be straight, gay, bisexual or transgender, even though I may discourage these activities.

It seems there is a reason for homosexuality to be banned from many religions. Our Prophet (I'm a Muslim, so I'm referring to Muhammad) predicted several signs leading to the end of the world. He mentioned the fact that the number of gay people would increase and men would begin to imitate women and vice versa. Then Allah (The God of Muslims) would send down a disease that the people have never seen before. AIDS, anyone?

If it was a choice, why would anyone want to be discriminated against? If you tried right now, I doubt you'd be able to become gay or bi, to be honest.

I'm a Catholic, but I hate being one. They're anti-gay, and I think that's horrible. They have no proof that God thinks it's wrong, so if they're trying to be like Jesus, discrimination is not the way to go.

 

[s0nido]

I'm a Catholic, but I hate being one. They're anti-gay, and I think that's horrible. They have no proof that God thinks it's wrong, so if they're trying to be like Jesus, discrimination is not the way to go.

They do have proof, actually. The towns of Sodom and Gomorrah were flipped upside down because 90% of their people were homosexual. And when Allah sent three angels down to help those people to change, they tried to seduce them. I think that was a bit too far.

 

[Patchy]

Well, that's more something that would be in the Qur'an. There's no concrete evidence that a town got turned upside down, is there? And I'm almost sure you can't really change sexuality, so angels turning people straight seems a bit strange to me. ^^;

But if thats what you believe, I won't try to change that.

 

[Repo Man]

Note: If you're only reason for being against homosexuality is because you're blindly following something a book from thousands of years ago says, find a new reason. This debate needs to be more than "God" vs. "Nonbelievers". Not everyone agrees with your religion.

Ahem...Lord Gaga, what is this proof you have claimed?

 

[txteclipse]

I believe homosexuality and sexual deviation in general to be an intense form of self-delusion. It involves a long and subtle cycle of brainwashing that causes a person's sexual perception to stray, typically started by an encounter with whatever form of abnormal sexuality they eventually practice. So basically it's like an addiction.

 

[Repo Man]

^It's posts like that that I love. Mostly because I have never heard that before. <3

Could you expand that please?

 

[Elite Champion]

if your gay your gay

people are so imature when they laugh at gays

maybe they dont like people being but its wrong to judge

some of the best footballers are gay and some of the best singers are gay

just because they love the same gender doesnt mean the should be discriminated

sheeesh!!!!!

 

[txteclipse]

^It's posts like that that I love. Mostly because I have never heard that before. <3

Could you expand that please?

I'll try as best I can. Basically, a person that has a sexual encounter early on with an abnormal form of sexuality will have that type of deviation inextricably correlated with sex in their mind. If they feed that correlation by acting on it or pursuing it in general, they will strengthen the delusion and may ultimately adopt that kind of behavior for themselves, thinking it to be normal.

 

[Repo Man]

What kind of abnormal sexual encounter?

Because I can tell you, I have seen nothing myself.

 

[txteclipse]

What kind of abnormal sexual encounter?

Because I can tell you, I have seen nothing myself.

It can be pretty much anything that makes a person think of an abnormal source for sexual stimulation. Pornography, an explicit conversation, and obviously things like rape, etc.

 

[Repo Man]

Yes, and if nothing like that happens to the person?

I've had the most average life you could ever think of. Hell, until I figured out for myself that I am bi, I hadn't even seen anything even vaguely homosexual. And does that apply to transexualism as well?

 

[matt561]

It's funny because the ad at the top of teh page is for a gay and lesbian holidat resort

I personally think that if people want to live with other people of the same sex thats fine they can do what they liek...as long as it doesnt affect me.

I mena i dont mind being with gay people but i dont want to look an outcast beacuse im NOT gay

And transexualism: so what if peple lik to dress up in differant clothes?

its like me im an amateur furry (going to the conventions and stuff... nothing like a costume) soi thinkn its just all a bit iof fun