Mafia Madness: Guns [Game Over]

GreenLegend56 said:
so if it was snipe/sharp that means according to bards claim, he was one of the shooters, so who was the other?
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According to his claim, he already used his gun though.

CatmanDaTrainer said:
Maybe the other one was a backfire?
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Why would a mafia shoot a fabbed Gun? They're the ones giving them out.


> Two snipe/sharps doesn't add up. We know one sniper was killed, unless the mafia are killing off random members instead, and Bard claims to have already fired his guns.

Therefore for this to work, the town would have to two more sharpshooters (or one is a sniper and the mafia were huge on numbers).
 
So at first I thought there was a possibility that the Snipers/Sharpshooters were given guns via gunsmith and weren't revealed when they shot any gun. But it turns out it's only their starting gun sooooooo that means we have 2 more sharpshooters with us? :)

Also I think both GP and JD were both not Sharpshooters because it specifically mentions them being apart of the shady group - as such they must be apart of the main mafia group and not the outliers.

Additionally: I have not shot my gun yet, so I'm still on standby. xD

Another thing: Should we consider maybe RC'ing soon? o:
 
Tried to post earlier a couple of times but PC was down...

Wow, nice shooting there, whoever that was

Now... I got a gun last night too. After seeing those two successful shots though, I'm thinking my gun is probably fabbed.

I thought it was a little weird that Ullion was left alive, but scum probably expected him to get a vest or something and left him alone. I still think Ullion is town anyway, although the way GP talked about Ullion does bug me a little.

Question - how does everyone feel about Mars? I know I asked a couple of players already, but I want to see where everyone's at right now. I like the way Mars has handled/answered questions so far, but I can't shake a weird feeling about him. I really don't like how he didn't have any other scum reads besides Twiggy yesterday. Thoughts, anyone?
Ullion said:
Also I think both GP and JD were both not Sharpshooters because it specifically mentions them being apart of the shady group - as such they must be apart of the main mafia group and not the outliers.
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They are listed as mafia in the deadlist Ullion :P
 
Sorry I'm late, an EIMM just started

As for the shooters, I think that it may have been one sniper and one sharpshooter. jd seemed a little attached to the idea that there was a second sniper, and the fact that he turned out to be scum all but confirms that there are two (Scum are usually told how many traitors there are iirc). If Bard's claim was true, then the other shooter was probably a sharpshooter. The victims also showed opposite alignments when they were playing. gp practically screamed "townie", while jd had a little bit of doubt surrounding him. So it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that they were targeted by a sniper and sharpshooter, respectively. Anyways, I doubt that the alignments of the shooters, but I might as well...

@Superjolt: I have also received a gun.
 
Ullion said:
Yes, and the Sniper role isn't apart of the actual mafia group. They are aligned with them, but they are not in the group itself.
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Sorry, I misunderstood. Thoughts on Mars? Scumreads?
Mars™ said:
Sorry I'm late, an EIMM just started

As for the shooters, I think that it may have been one sniper and one sharpshooter. jd seemed a little attached to the idea that there was a second sniper, and the fact that he turned out to be scum all but confirms that there are two (Scum are usually told how many traitors there are iirc). If Bard's claim was true, then the other shooter was probably a sharpshooter. The victims also showed opposite alignments when they were playing. gp practically screamed "townie", while jd had a little bit of doubt surrounding him. So it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that they were targeted by a sniper and sharpshooter, respectively. Anyways, I doubt that the alignments of the shooters, but I might as well...

@Superjolt: I have also received a gun.
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idk for sure, but since games here are based on EM, I don't think the scum team is told anything about traitors in EM. Part of me is nervous that you could be scum with a gun now, but maybe I'm letting paranoia really get to me :P Have any scum reads? Any other thoughts?
JohnnyMustang said:
There's something I'm not getting. Wasn't Alex the sniper? Why are we assuming that there's a secret additional sniper when there's already 6 mafia roles in a game of 22 people? That would make 7 members of the mafia, assuming there's only one vanilla. It sounds a bit too much, add that to the fact that this theory was started by an actual member of the mafia (jdthebud) and we get a nice fairy tale. There's only one sniper, there's not a single valid reason why we should assume there's another one.
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Yeah, I'm with Johnny on this too. Also Johnny, who are your scum reads besides Bac? After doing ISOs of GP and jd, I don't think Bac being on a scum team with them makes much sense.
GreenLegend56 said:
so if it was snipe/sharp that means according to bards claim, he was one of the shooters, so who was the other?
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Green, can we get some reads from you?

I think now's the time to have everyone in general start sharing reads.

My main scum reads right now are Naku, CapsFan, honey and Catman, with Green still being a very slight scum lean. I have varying levels of town for everyone else except Bac, who is null for now
 
JohnnyMustang said:
There's something I'm not getting. Wasn't Alex the sniper? Why are we assuming that there's a secret additional sniper when there's already 6 mafia roles in a game of 22 people? That would make 7 members of the mafia, assuming there's only one vanilla. It sounds a bit too much, add that to the fact that this theory was started by an actual member of the mafia (jdthebud) and we get a nice fairy tale. There's only one sniper, there's not a single valid reason why we should assume there's another one.
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True...it would definitely be strange if there were more than one sniper. However, the only other possible scenario is 3 sharpshooters, since Bard already claimed to be one and Alex is dead. And that'd be just as strange imo. I'm not really sure what to think of it at this point...
 
Superjolt said:
Green, can we get some reads from you?

I think now's the time to have everyone in general start sharing reads.
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Got me at a good time, I just got home lol

At the start of the game, because alex had a gun and was taken out we've presumed he was the sniper, but perhaps he was actually the illusionist? they also start with a gun. So I'm not 100% certain that the sniper is out of the game. I believe there might only be 1 but far from certain they're gone. I do agree however that there is probably more than 1 sharpshooter

I get scum reads from honey, catman and capsfan, with none of them on any particular levels scum, they just feel off
 
Superjolt said:
idk for sure, but since games here are based on EM, I don't think the scum team is told anything about traitors in EM. Part of me is nervous that you could be scum with a gun now, but maybe I'm letting paranoia really get to me :P Have any scum reads? Any other thoughts?
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Since it seems like jd wanted to lynch Bac, I think that she's in a gray area atm. So besides her, I think that the players without much content need a bit of pressure. (I'll have to read back for specific players, but Naku and Caps come to mind atm). Also, I'm starting to think that Johnny was one of the shooters...
 
Allow me to explain a little on the role list: it's the roles that are possibly in the game, not necessary, as I compiled that list before I knew the number of players. (Would only 15 people have signed up, no way I was going to do at least six mafia members for example.) Also, as you may have figured out already, there is no limit on how many times each role is present either.

On other news: there is only nine hours left for today.
Still need votes from: Bardothren, CatmanDaTrainer, Elektra Heart, GreenLegend56, honey, Mars™, Nakuzami, Superjolt, TheCapsFan, Ullion (aka everyone but Johnny :P)
 
[Vote]: CatMan I've got to put something in before I go to bed and I get a scum feeling from you, input has been real low also so not sure if extremely passive or trying not to give yourself away
 
There are 22 people in this game. Assuming that there is one mafia identity per role, plus an additional sniper, that would make the setup 15/7. That's insane. However, given Lycan's announcement, I suppose a second sniper would be possible. It's either that or two sharpshooters, there's no other possibilities. Unless we assume that the mafia has a fabricator that gave a gun to their own teammate, in which case, they should just surrender now and stop playing mafia.

I'm going to [VOTE]: Nakuzami. He's typically a vocal player and frankly I forgot he existed up until now. Catman is another good option.

Mars™ said:
Since it seems like jd wanted to lynch Bac, I think that she's in a gray area atm. So besides her, I think that the players without much content need a bit of pressure. (I'll have to read back for specific players, but Naku and Caps come to mind atm). Also, I'm starting to think that Johnny was one of the shooters...
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Why?
 
TheCapsFan said:
Why?
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I found it a little strange that two anonymous guns were fired on the same phase, so I'm assuming that at least one of them has a reason for waiting until now to fire. And iirc, Johnny recently filled an inactive slot, so that's definitely enough of a reason. He also accused jd of being scum right before he died.

(I'd also like to note that the flavor text points to them being shot, so I doubt that the mafia fabbed each other).
 
@Superjolt: Do you think that we could request an extension? I believe that pressuring the inactives is the best thing that we can do right now , but I'm not sure if we have enough time.
 
Bardothren said:
I don't have anything to go on either, and life's been a bit too hectic lately for me to really pay attention.

[Lynch] Elektra Heart
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Do you really think Bac is still scum even after jd and GP both flipped scum?
Ullion said:
Tbh right now I have no real scum reads. I'm backing off Bac since I'm definitely not scum reading him as much. Everything seems up in the air now.

[kill] no one

Simply because I am at an impasse on who I think is off or not. Does anyone here have any scumread with a reason behind it? I'll vote for someone if I see some good reasoning .-.
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I think it's tough to give strong reasons for these reads since my reads are on players that have barely done anything, the reasons are weak at best because there's just so little to base them on. It's mostly process of elimination.
Mars™ said:
@Superjolt: Do you think that we could request an extension? I believe that pressuring the inactives is the best thing that we can do right now , but I'm not sure if we have enough time.
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I agree and I wouldn't mind an extension. I don't know about everyone else, but PC has been really slow the past 3 days or so and PC has been down a few times which has made things a little difficult imo... so I wouldn;t mind an extension but it's up to Lycan to decide
 
JohnnyMustang said:
I'm tempted to vote for Naku, but that meta reasoning from the Caps doesn't make sense. Naku is a vocal player regardless of his alignment.

I'm not a fan of NLing so let's see.... Catman is usually helpful and vocal-ish when he's town so that's all I got [KILL]CatmanDaTrainer
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It wasn't meta reasoning. I agree that Naku is a vocal player regardless of alignment. Seeing him quiet is unusual. I'm voting him for pressure. Also, I think it's a good idea to have two wagons rather than one in this situation. It makes it so scum can't blend in as easy.
 
JohnnyMustang said:
I'm tempted to vote for Naku, but that meta reasoning from the Caps doesn't make sense. Naku is a vocal player regardless of his alignment.

I'm not a fan of NLing so let's see.... Catman is usually helpful and vocal-ish when he's town so that's all I got [KILL]CatmanDaTrainer
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Aw. He thinks I'm helpful!

Anyway, I haven't really been active lately due to school and my unhealthy amount of time at the Roleplay Theater. {XD}
I'm just gonna get a vote in now and I might change it later.
[SHOOT] Elektra Heart because I don't wanna die. ;-;
 
CatmanDaTrainer said:
Aw. He thinks I'm helpful!

Anyway, I haven't really been active lately due to school and my unhealthy amount of time at the Roleplay Theater. {XD}
I'm just gonna get a vote in now and I might change it later.
[SHOOT] Elektra Heart because I don't wanna die. ;-;
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Now I find this a curious post. And when I say curious, I mean in contrast to any other post this day phase, I find it the most scummy.
 
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