Misty Returning

[janejane6178]

While Misty isnt my fav female companion, I still think she has the highest chance to make a comeback (Especielly when considering it's the 20th ann).
Altho I LOVED the traveling companions in the recent generations,I still think that we've had enough new characters and I would like to have a sense of continuity.

 

[Famon]

I never said it was done right, I just said they attempted to do something regarding them.

And considering that Charizard's, you know, actually ON Ash's roster now rather than being trained under another trainer and didn't return to said other trainer in BW, which had been the case in Johto and even Battle Frontier, I'd say that it was DEFINITELY better in that case. That being said, I do agree with you that not bringing in Charizard or even Sceptile to do Mega-Evolutions was just stupid.

Tell me , what kind of Lunatic writers would make Ash lose Unova league to an noob like Cameron ?
Did writers thought twice about it ?
Okay , if that was a mistake then why did they decide to waste rest of the series on useless filler?
Maybe , They could create a "League-like" Tournament with full battle where Ash crash Cameron in a full battle .
Pokemon anime is handled by professional Writers But the mistake in BW series were way bellow their standard .

They were the two original friends of Ash. When you're going to do something big for the anniversary, you're best going to include the characters who helped make it happen. It's like a Star Trek anniversary event without Kirk, Spock, or Bones in some form.

Thats not true !
The anime didn't brought back Misty for 10th anniversary.
We don't know what the producer or director thinking !
They might decide to do a montage to all Pokemon series by bringing back One Major character from each series ! Ash from Original series , May from AG Series , Paul from DP series , Clian from BW Series and Alain from XY series .

Hey, if they wanted to have an attractive girl for kids to watch a character impress, go right ahead, but they need to make sure the girl in question is far older than a 10 year old especially if she's specifically going to end up being used in terms of sexual fanservice. Otherwise, it's no different than peddling child porn, which even in Japan is highly illegal. The writers should NOT have made May 10 years old. 16 years old? I can buy that. Heck, I'd even buy it if she were 14 years old even though it's not really good. But 10? No, absolutely not.

Doreamon and Youkai watch used 10 year old girls for eye-candy.
We are not talking about ecchi Fanservice from Harem anime.
Kids are innocent and they just want to impress their crush without any sexual knowledge.
We all gone though that phrase and I don't know why I felt attraction toward my crush without any knowledge about relation.
Its probably in our DNA .
Anyway , The Anime need to create a girl that Kids want Ash to impress! It doesn't mean Ash has to be on a relationship.

So like the Father-Son Kamehameha when fighting Cell, in other words? But... wait, Goku was dead there...

You seen the video , You know that girl and boy wasn't dead.
So you know what I want.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Tell me , what kind of Lunatic writers would make Ash lose Unova league to an noob like Cameron ?
Did writers thought twice about it ?
Okay , if that was a mistake then why did they decide to waste rest of the series on useless filler?
Maybe , They could create a "League-like" Tournament with full battle where Ash crash Cameron in a full battle .
Pokemon anime is handled by professional Writers But the mistake in BW series were way bellow their standard .

Like I said, I never said what they did was good, I just said they did have a response to the low ratings. And even you have to admit bringing Charizard back to Ash's roster was definitely a good thing and certainly unexpected (most fans would have expected that, IF Charizard was to return for BW, he'd leave for Lisa afterward, NOT fully rejoin Ash's roster to the extent of being promoted to an Oaked Pokemon).

Thats not true !
The anime didn't brought back Misty for 10th anniversary.
We don't know what the producer or director thinking !
They might decide to do a montage to all Pokemon series by bringing back One Major character from each series ! Ash from Original series , May from AG Series , Paul from DP series , Clian from BW Series and Alain from XY series .

Paul was a rival, not that kind of major character, same with Alain. And besides, why would they release GEM figures of Kanto-era Ash, Misty, and about to release a GEM figure of Brock if they weren't focusing on the 20th anniversary next year?

Doreamon and Youkai watch used 10 year old girls for eye-candy.
We are not talking about ecchi Fanservice from Harem anime.
Kids are innocent and they just want to impress their crush without any sexual knowledge.
We all gone though that phrase and I don't know why I felt attraction toward my crush without any knowledge about relation.
Its probably in our DNA .
Anyway , The Anime need to create a girl that Kids want Ash to impress! It doesn't mean Ash has to be on a relationship.

The interview kinda made it clear that they were aiming for sexual fanservice when they mentioned "eyecandy" and putting them in swimsuits and all of that.

You seen the video , You know that girl and boy wasn't dead.
So you know what I want.

I'll watch it soon.

 

[Jefries]

I think Misty was a great character and I wouldn't mind of her returning but it would also be better for Serena to go along with Ash so that maybe they can develop their relationship. Otherwise it would be interesting if Misty and Serena were with Ash this time. Or imagine if they brought all the other girls back? Although that would be kind of impossible considering that May and Dawn have their competitions, iris I seriously didn't like her that much in fact the only good part of the Unova series was when N was there with the group were Ash also brought Charizard back. Although they do a certain thing every time and that's bringing the previous female character for a couple of episodes into the new region. Although I think they might change that considering all that false hopes of AshxSerena I mean it seems like although they are teasing it it is never going to happen. There is also the possibility of the new female character to be Lillie although that would be feel kind of strange considering that she looks like that type of girl that barely talks.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

The reason Misty was kicked out in the first place was due to the anime losing steam during the Johto saga, and they had to choose between removing Misty or Team Rocket out of the cast (they decided to keep Team Rocket in the end). Bringing back Misty in this time is impossible, because it's the last Pokegirl who got booted out who makes guest appearances in the current saga. As stated by Rayquaza from another thread, every prediction for Misty's return have always been wrong.

 

[The 4th Kira]

The reason Misty was kicked out in the first place was due to the anime losing steam during the Johto saga, and they had to choose between removing Misty or Team Rocket out of the cast (they decided to keep Team Rocket in the end). Bringing back Misty in this time is impossible, because it's the last Pokegirl who got booted out who makes guest appearances in the current saga. As stated by Rayquaza from another thread, every prediction for Misty's return have always been wrong.

Tbh I feel that they should've dumped TR and Brock also, not just Misty. In the case of Brock especially, he was even more pointless than Misty in Johto, so idk why he remained and went to Hoenn. :/

 

[Jefries]

Tbh I feel that they should've dumped TR and Brock also, not just Misty. In the case of Brock especially, he was even more pointless than Misty in Johto, so idk why he remained and went to Hoenn. :/

Well I got to disagree on that about Brock I mean he is like the best male companion of Ash the other 2 are not so good compared to Brock. It would have been good if he had stayed longer.

 

[The 4th Kira]

Well I got to disagree on that about Brock I mean he is like the best male companion of Ash the other 2 are not so good compared to Brock.

Which is subjective, but the fact remains that he didn't do much in Johto: All he got was a few fillers. He was worse than Misty in terms of development imo.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Well I got to disagree on that about Brock I mean he is like the best male companion of Ash the other 2 are not so good compared to Brock. It would have been good if he had stayed longer.

Better than Cilan, yes, but better than Clement? Heck no. Clement has gotten better character development in his centric episodes compared to Brock's, and possibly more if he and Bonnie continues to stick around in the Alola saga, since Zygarde will play a role in Sun and Moon.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

The reason Misty was kicked out in the first place was due to the anime losing steam during the Johto saga, and they had to choose between removing Misty or Team Rocket out of the cast (they decided to keep Team Rocket in the end). Bringing back Misty in this time is impossible, because it's the last Pokegirl who got booted out who makes guest appearances in the current saga. As stated by Rayquaza from another thread, every prediction for Misty's return have always been wrong.

Doesn't that it will be wrong now. Don't forget, most people didn't exactly expect Jessiebelle to reappear, yet guess what? She DID reappear in DP. Same deal with Brock's mom (the dub even indicated she had died in her first mention way back in the fifth episode). And I might as well point out Charizard. Were we to go by likelihoods and odds, Charizard, IF he were to return in Best Wishes, would have just returned to Lisa's Charcific Valley after his time is up. Yet that's NOT what happened. He actually returned to Ash's roster, even being promoted to being an official Oaked Pokémon rather than training under another trainer.

And need I remind you that next year's going to be the 20th Anniversary of the Anime? They'd need to do something big for that to happen, and I can't think of anything particularly bigger than bringing Misty and, if needs be, even Brock back. Not to mention Alola's the first region since Hoenn to be primarily water-based, and considering the timing of the releases of the GEM series Ash and Misty figurines, I'm pretty sure they're hinting at something (if it was JUST for the 20th Anniversary of the Anime promotions, they would have released them next year, NOT this year, since this year is for the games, and the GEM figurines are NOT for their game selves).

Besides, unlike the other girls (or heck, any of the previous leads) who at least are pursuing their goals (and in the case of Tracey and Brock, actually achieved their goal and changed their goal, respectively), she's the only one who was forced to put her goal aside, so it's best if she returns, if only so she can actually pursue her goal without being hampered by the Gym and treated as a punching bag a'la Team Rocket (the Hoenn Gym Leaders' treatment in AG is pretty much the main reason I have a low opinion of gym leaders in the anime right now. That and the Unova Gym Leaders who arguably had it even worse.).

 

[Jefries]

Better than Cilan, yes, but better than Clement? Heck no. Clement has gotten better character development in his centric episodes compared to Brock's, and possibly more if he and Bonnie continues to stick around in the Alola saga, since Zygarde will play a role in Sun and Moon.

Well yeah Clemont I think it is does got a lot of character development but I meant because Brock was funny is just that I kind of find Clemont sometimes funny but not always. I like more a character that can entertain with comedic scenes than character development although Brock turned out to be a doctor at the end.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Well yeah Clemont I think it is does got a lot of character development but I meant because Brock was funny is just that I kind of find Clemont sometimes funny but not always. I like more a character that can entertain with comedic scenes than character development although Brock turned out to be a doctor at the end.

Although I acknowledge that if Misty's going to be brought back for Alola largely for the 20th Anniversary of the Anime, Brock might as well return, I personally would prefer he not return, not unless they cut out his womanizing gag because it really sets a very bad example on kids (and besides, he makes us heterosexual males look bad).

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Doesn't that it will be wrong now. Don't forget, most people didn't exactly expect Jessiebelle to reappear, yet guess what? She DID reappear in DP. Same deal with Brock's mom (the dub even indicated she had died in her first mention way back in the fifth episode). And I might as well point out Charizard. Were we to go by likelihoods and odds, Charizard, IF he were to return in Best Wishes, would have just returned to Lisa's Charcific Valley after his time is up. Yet that's NOT what happened. He actually returned to Ash's roster, even being promoted to being an official Oaked Pokémon rather than training under another trainer.

Misty DID NOT reappear in DP physically (she was only referenced once followed by her lure rod). Jessiebelle isn't a main character, so using her isn't a good example to your argument, same with Charizard, since Ash's previous Pokémon make appearances once in a while.

And need I remind you that next year's going to be the 20th Anniversary of the Anime? They'd need to do something big for that to happen, and I can't think of anything particularly bigger than bringing Misty and, if needs be, even Brock back. Not to mention Alola's the first region since Hoenn to be primarily water-based, and considering the timing of the releases of the GEM series Ash and Misty figurines, I'm pretty sure they're hinting at something (if it was JUST for the 20th Anniversary of the Anime promotions, they would have released them next year, NOT this year, since this year is for the games, and the GEM figurines are NOT for their game selves).

We're also getting a May figurine too, does that mean May is coming back to the anime? Of course not, which is why using the Ash and Misty figurines is a poor piece of evidence. Your nostalgia for the original series is blinding you, weedle, and possibly your mind. I was emotionally depressed when Dawn got booted out, but I moved on, so why can't you?

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Misty DID NOT reappear in DP physically (she was only referenced once followed by her lure rod). Jessiebelle isn't a main character, so using her isn't a good example to your argument, same with Charizard, since Ash's previous Pokémon make appearances once in a while.

1. Jessiebelle was a COTD, which by mathematics have an even LESS likely chance of returning than a former main character (COTD = "Character of the Day", meaning they were intended to be one-offs). If she can return, then a former main character certainly can as well. Do you even know mathematics? When have we last seen Samurai, for example? Or heck, even AJ?

2. Charizard, however, in Johto and Battle Frontier, generally ended up leaving for Lisa's Charcific Valley once he's done aiding Ash. Best Wishes is the first time since he left for Charcific Valley that he actually rejoined Ash's roster, even going as far as to become an Oaked Pokémon. Not many other Pokémon have managed to pull that off (Squirtle, the only other Kanto Starter who actually left Ash's care instead of simply being Oaked, hadn't. And Butterfree and Pidgeot never even had an in-the-flesh reappearance since their departures, getting flashbacks at best).

We're also getting a May figurine too, does that mean May is coming back to the anime? Of course not, which is why using the Ash and Misty figurines is a poor piece of evidence. Your nostalgia for the original series is blinding you, weedle, and possibly your mind. I was emotionally depressed when Dawn got booted out, but I moved on, so why can't you?

It's not nostalgia, I have a near-eidetic memory, and thus cannot have my memories clouded. And while I can feel nostalgia (for example, I at times wish I could still be loyal to the Rebel Alliance instead of going to the Galactic Empire, but I know thanks to George Lucas' bombshell about the Rebels being VC members that I cannot actually be fans of them anymore), it's definitely not the case here. And as far as the figurines, I just checked Pokepolitan, under "G.E.M. Series", and there is absolutely NO mention of May in there, and in fact, there hasn't been ANY new additions to Pokémon figurines under the G.E.M. line since they announced Brock and Nurse Joy a little over a Month ago. The May figurine you mentioned, IF it even exists, is more likely of her game incarnation rather than her anime incarnation. Unless it's specifically under the G.E.M. line of figurines (which is pretty much guaranteed to be the Anime versions of the characters), don't try to refute that evidence. Also, the reason I'm focused on bringing Misty back is because, unlike Dawn who at least has the ability to pursue her goal, Misty wasn't even allowed to do so, because the writers and her sisters forced her to tend the Gym and be a punching bag.

EDIT: Thought so, the only May figurine that has been released this year was the Kotobukiya May, and it's pretty obvious it's NOT the May from the Anime, but rather, game May (especially when she was released around the same time Red's prototype was unveiled, and Red was obviously not an Anime character, and besides, the preview artwork makes clear that it's not Anime May in any way [if anything, it's closer to ORAS May]):

http://www.pokepolitan.com/2016/03/kotobukiya-may-red-prototype.html

So yeah, next time you want to refute my point regarding the figurine development, how about you actually use the same production line as my example, not to mention it being made obvious that it's in fact Anime May rather than Game May. I don't use the Bandai series Gym Leader Misty figurine as evidence that she'll return in the Anime, for example, precisely because even I know that that's not evidence there because Game Misty is NOT Anime Misty (even IF FRLG and HGSS gave her various character traits that referenced her anime incarnation, probably the only Gym Leader to actually do so in any way besides in Pokémon Yellow, since not even Brock got that), and besides, that figurine alongside the rest of the Bandai Gym Leader line was obviously only released for the sake of the 20th Anniversary of the games and thus cannot be used as evidence.

EDIT 2: I just realized something else as well: the announcer for the Princess Festival? He actually was present at the Kalos league's debut, meaning he just beat out Jessiebelle as the COTD who took the longest to reappear (actually, not even a COTD, a stock character), taking nearly TWO decades to reappear. And here's the thing, why would they reuse a character for one of Ash's important matches who, conveniently enough, actually previously appeared in one of Misty's matches. Seems suspicious, since they could have either created a whole new character from scratch, or otherwise brought in an announcer from the Indigo Plateau Conference, Silver Conference, Ever Grande Conference, Lily of the Valley Conference, or, heck, even the Vertress Conference.

 

[Sheep]

Reminder that this thread is about Misty returning, not show ratings, other characters and their development, or why the anime writers handle things the way they do.

Since this has happened many times the next punishment will be revoking your access to the Pokémon Anime forum entirely. Please behave.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Reminder that this thread is about Misty returning, not show ratings, other characters and their development, or why the anime writers handle things the way they do.

Since this has happened many times the next punishment will be revoking your access to the Pokémon Anime forum entirely. Please behave.

Fine.

In any case, regarding the topic, it's clear they're hinting at something regarding Misty with the recent stuff regarding Misty. First, they've released the G.E.M. Misty figurine (it's highly unusual for an old anime protagonist to even GET a figurine when they haven't been on the show currently, let alone a protagonist who by this point has been off the show for more than a decade.), not to mention the timing of it is also odd since it's not even the 20th anniversary of the Anime yet (that's next year). And then there's the choice of region they chose. I find it very hard to believe that, out of all the real life places they could choose, they had to choose the one that had more water than land, especially when, other than Hoenn, most of the regions of the core series were more land-based than water-based. And considering the games have clearly followed the anime at times (for example, Misty's current characterization has taken clear cues from her anime incarnation, and is pretty much the only game character to get that, as not even Brock really got that, certainly not the same extent she did), I also suspect that they created that region specifically to give Misty an excuse to go there (the fact that this game will be released right around the time of the 20th anniversary of the anime also doesn't help its case either). Even that Team Rocket broadcast where Ash and Misty's voice actors interacting with each other in-character seemed very suspicious, not to mention their promising that they'll "see each other soon." And this was either right near the end of Best Wishes, or right when XY was starting. Personally, I'm willing to bet they're hinting at Misty's return.

 

[SlowMotionSprint]

I would like to see an arc with a doubles tournament that Ash and Misty enter together.

 

[Darthbane2007]

Maybe it's me, but why do people want misty to return anyway?

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Maybe it's me, but why do people want misty to return anyway?

I can't necessarily speak for everyone on here, but in my case, it's because she was really given the short end of the stick. While it was not good that the other characters got dumped, at least with the others, they either willingly changed their goal (Brock), or otherwise at least had the opportunity to pursue their goals, or in the case of Tracey, actually succeeded in their goal. Misty had neither. Not only was she forced to put her goal of becoming a Water Pokémon Master on the side burner due to her sisters' incompetence and their leaving the gym for three months, she wasn't even given any indication she wanted to change her goal. Probably what makes the already infuriating situation even worse is that AG for some idiotic reason decided to make his Hoenn team OPed to such an extent that they made the Hoenn Gym leaders as pathetic as Team Rocket especially in the third episode, which comes across as especially insulting to Misty. They really need to bring her back and have her pursue her goal, especially when, let's face it, running a gym isn't even CLOSE to pursuing her goal. The only one who might rival her regarding getting the short end of the stick is Max due to the fact that he'll perpetually end up underaged simply because of the writers' stupid insistence that Ash remain 10 years old. And then, when we did have a gold mine for ensuring Misty came back and even giving her closure via that Pokémon World Conference from Black 2 and White 2, the writers idiotically skipped over it, with the best we could get being a Junior Cup, and instead they wasted a reappearance on Dawn despite her having absolutely NO reason to even BE in Unova since it doesn't even have contests.

 

[Famon]

Maybe it's me, but why do people want misty to return anyway?

Because Ash , Misty and Brock has solid funny group chemistry that A Kids anime need.
XY group just so freaking Sweet toward each other that it makes them boring.
It doesn't matter what kind of development Clemont or Serena gotten , Kids want funny chemistry that make an anime enjoyable to watch.
Such as this --

We can never see Ash saying something like that to ether Serena or Clemont. That one of reason why XY series was poorly receive in Japan.
That why We need the original trio back Or The Series need to create new cast that are as enjoyable as Misty.
Off course , If writer change Misty personality in excuse of development and turn her super sweet and nice then there will no point of bringing her back.

Plus Pokemon reach its 20th anniversary so Misty reappearance in one of the best way to celebrate it.