Modern Racism: Officer Wilson Walks

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1. There needs to be a re-evaluation of media outlet restrictions and court proceedings. The fallout from high profile cases including the Casey Anthony and Trayvon Martin, are only high profile because of media outlets agenda setting. Notice black on black travesties are never given notice? It leads to these special cases being used as a heuristic, or simple logical bridge, in order for the viewer to get a sense of generally occurring phenomenon. 90%+ of African-American murders are committed by other African-Americans. (Due to structural deficiencies.)

2. Most crime is proportionally committed by Africa-Americans in the US. (Due to high poverty and other structural biases.)

3. African-Americans are attributed with crime, poverty, and other defective statuses as it relates to neoliberal paternalism. Meaning, the state seeks to punish those of the state that are "defective", and African Americans, as disproportionately impoverished, and therefore, more likely to commit crimes, are labeled and perceived as defective. The condition of being black is therefore transposed as being defective/criminal.

4. Volatile reactions in mobilized African-American groups only increases this perception of defectiveness.

5. Leaders of African American groups should be responsible for inciting volatility in many instances...therefore harming all groups, especially African Americans.

6. The distribution of welfare penalties and crime sentencing should be equal; it is not according to the major Race and Ethnicity literature in APSA and APSR. Blacks are highly penalized, being perceived as less deserving (more likely to remain defective, this is at a subconscious level.)

7. Adding to the point above, most laws, MOST laws, are neutral to race...rather, the implementation of law and policy contribute to biasness, and subsequently, African-American volatility. (Including law enforcement, education, welfare, among others.)

8. Back to the Furguson case, the riots are causing more damage, and the incitement of the riots can be blamed by many parties including, newsmedia, history of legislative and court decisions allowing newsmedia to cover cases with leaning and misleading information (regardless of right/left media), inept police training, biases of bureacracy policy implementation, black interest groups and political leaders, ect. ect. ect.

9. Interest groups, unions, organizations or collectives of any kind and at any level (local, state, national), should be institutionalized in a way that encourages multiethnic membership, and a decrease in these collectives that exclude (implicitly or not) any membership based on race. This includes African-American groups. Groups that don't actively recruit (or exclude) African-Americans should have compulsory mandates that encourage integration.

The idea is, when groups, which are collectives with similar interests are formed Social contact, is solidified as more positive, since groups seek mutual interests. Further, identity to race we perceive of ourselves and others is diluted. Much like the transformation of the racialized white ethnic enclaves during the Industrial Era, to the present, in which, ethnic conflict is not prevalent in the US. Though, the skin color, a visibly distinct difference, makes the dilution of ethnic fractionalization a more difficult task.

10. Integration policies have largely failed since social contact IS NOT preceded by forming a common interest or identity among groups.
 
but Wilson has been found not criminally liable by what would have been a carefully selected jury for impartiality

there were 12 members in that jury, 3 black and 9 white
3 black jury members representing an area which has a (roughly) 67% black population

in order to pass the non-indictment, there needed to be a 9 out of 12 (or higher) vote
all 9 white jury members voted for non-indictment

carefully selected, yes
selected to clear wilson, that is
 
The way minorities are portrayed and treated in this country gives a large inherent bias against them in the minds of the majority. Granted, maybe this wasn't a direct thought, but I've seen a lot of sheltered white people who will think basically like this. It's very easy to call out racism in a situation defined by racism.

Question for you: have you ever accused or seen someone accusing an African American person of not acting "black enough"?

I'm mainly asking because I've seen a lot of white people doing this while growing up and I did it too before I hit undergrad. That's the kind of crap you never want to hear. It automatically gives the impression of a preconceived notion that black people are inherently thuggish and can't speak english well or something like that, and they're basically all like 2chainz or something. This is the kind of mentality we are talking about here, which I'm sure exists in the minds of many white people. It's considerably more subtle but it affects your judgment enough to actually favor one side over the other.
 
You're being racist by assuming and jumping to conclusions that just because someone has a certain skin colour that they're going to unreservedly back someone else simply because they also have that skin colour. Never mind presented evidence, testimonials, stringent restrictions on the jurors prevent influence from outside media reporting... they're white, of course they're going to support the white guy because you know, white people have such a tight knit culture, they never have differences of opinion, they always back the words of another white man. That logic can also be applied to blacks so what are we going to do, make sure that nobody of the ethnicity of the accused or victim is involved in the court process, outsource it to all the Asians in China?

Just out of curiosity, what did the black members of the jury vote and in what number?

disregarding that spam about racism to whites... the black members of the jury all voted for non-indictment

i don't think you understand the power of white supremacy
it will do whatever it takes to protect itself
i'm not explicitly stating that the jurors voted to not indict him because they were white, but i'm not ruling it out and neither should you
the jurors voted for non-indictment a a direct result of white supremacy
white supremacy resulted in falsification of evidence, discrediting of witness testimonies, discrediting social media because they managed to put together sound evidence & probable cause
it resulted in a prosecutor who is also the president of a support darren wilson charity
it resulted in a sham trial, where darren wilson demonised michael brown and dragged his name through the mud even further
the jurors may not have consciously taken part in white supremacy, but they were most certainly complicit in its results

but honestly
when you really think about it
all the white jurors voting to not indict darren wilson can't be rationally justified no matter the spin anyone puts on it
 
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Let me spread a little modern day wisdom. The government loves racial tensions....know why? Because it takes all the attention off of them and makes us all forget about how terrible a job they are truly doing. Just think about it...every time the government starts getting fingers pointed at them either a race war or foreign conflict is mentioned.
 
Let me spread a little modern day wisdom. The government loves racial tensions....know why? Because it takes all the attention off of them and makes us all forget about how terrible a job they are truly doing. Just think about it...every time the government starts getting fingers pointed at them either a race war or foreign conflict is mentioned.

A little modern day paranoia, you must mean. I'm pretty sure it was the Goverment that shot Michael Brown, we all know the Grand Jury who let Wilson off the hook was full of Representatives and Senators, and there are reports that Mr. Holder was seen around Ferguson gathering up people to set things on fire. Wait no- it was regular people who did all of that. Should the Government go and say "Oh please, don't start getting angry about the fact that a reportedly harmless person was shot six times in a town that has had racial problems for a long while- we are supposed to be talking about (insert latest media favourite here)".

Also, people aren't distracted that easily, just ask the Democrats about how much all those "racial tensions" and "foreign wars" helped them get votes a few weeks ago.

But seriously, in case you don't realize, the US has had racial tensions for about a couple centuries, and they have been involved in every major foreign conflict for the last century. Race wars affect the day-to-day lives of millions of US citizens, foreign conflicts have meant US troops being sent to fight and maybe die abroad for decades. Those are matters that directly affect many citizens, and the Government is obligued to pay attention to them. It's not like everybody is suddenly talking about the collapse of the Social-democrat coalition in Croatia, something nobody in the US cares about. It's a huge conflict in a US State, affecting US citizens, that has forced the Governor to call out the National Guard, for god's sake.

It reminds me of all those people who claim that the monthly mass-shootings are a plan of the Government to take down the second amendment or whatever nonsense. Politicians are supposed to react to major problems and try to find solutions. But you can't expect them to say "so this term will be all about jobs. If Canada tries to invade Michigan, there is a huge earthquake in California and a local conflict in Colorado results in the entire State erupting in flames, I'm sorry but we won't pay attention to those- we are focused in jobs! I'm sure you can all wait four years until we can pay attention to your problems."
 
You don't think any politicians are fueling this? Eric Holder for one fueled it all the way until the verdict by injecting himself into the situation and showing he has "NO TRUST" for a white DA. Whether he flat out said "I hate whites" or not his actions made his intention apparent. Do I think racial tensions are a conspiracy? Yes, of course I do. 20 years ago they were near extinct and now all of the sudden we are back to the 50's in the eyes of the African American community? Makes NO SENSE whatsoever.

Who imbedded this mindset? Are Whites really to blame? Do people like Sharpton or Jackson make things better?

When all is said and done these "Protests" only go as far as the government lets it go.
 
You don't think any politicians are fueling this? Eric Holder for one fueled it all the way until the verdict by injecting himself into the situation and showing he has "NO TRUST" for a white DA. Whether he flat out said "I hate whites" or not his actions made his intention apparent.

Well he's, you know, the Justice Secretary. And, in case you think he's getting "too involved" with this case, you should know that many, many racial cases in the Civil Rights era had to be brought up by the Federal Justice Department because the States would just ignore them.
And you know, thanks to politicians like some H. Truman "fueling" those cases back then, now blacks can, you know, vote. They clearly should have let things be instead.

Do I think racial tensions are a conspiracy? Yes, of course I do. 20 years ago they were near extinct and now all of the sudden we are back to the 50's in the eyes of the African American community? Makes NO SENSE whatsoever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_riots#Post_Civil_Rights_Era:_1978_to_today

1978: Houston's Moody Park on the first anniversary of Joe Campos Torres death.
1980: Miami Riots (Miami, Florida)
1980: Chattanooga Riot (Chattanooga, Tennessee)
1984: Lawrence, Massachusetts Race Riot: A small scale riot centered at the intersection of Haverhill and railroad streets between working class whites and Hispanics; several buildings were destroyed by Molotov cocktails; August 8, 1984.[46]
1989: Overtown Riot (Miami, FL) In a reaction to the shooting of a black motorcyclist by a Hispanic police officer in the predominately black community of Overtown in Miami, residents rioted for two nights. The officer was later found guilty of manslaughter.
1991: Crown Heights riot (Crown Heights neighborhood, Brooklyn, New York City)
1992: Los Angeles Riots (Los Angeles, California): In a reaction to the acquittal of all four LAPD officers involved in the videotaped beating of Rodney King and the murder of Latasha Harlins; riots broke out mainly involving black youths in the black neighborhoods and shop owners in Korean neighborhoods, but overall rioting was mainly to get out the frustrations of the racial groups over the racial tensions that were building in the South Central neighborhood for years[citation needed].
1996: St. Petersburg Riots (St. Petersburg, Florida): After Officer Jim Knight stopped 18 yr. old Tyron Lewis for speeding, his car lurched forward and Knight fired his weapon, fatally wounding the black teenager. Riots broke out and lasted for about 2 days.[citation needed]
2001: Cincinnati riots (Cincinnati, Ohio): In a reaction to the fatal shooting of an unarmed young black male, Timothy Thomas by Cincinnati police officer Steven Roach, during a foot pursuit, riots broke out over the span of a few days.
2003: Benton Harbor riots (Benton Harbor, Michigan)
2005: 2005 Toledo Riot (Toledo, Ohio): A race riot that broke out after a planned Neo-Nazi protest march through a black neighborhood.
2006: Fontana High School riot (Fontana, California): Riot involving about 500 Latino and black students[47]
2006: Prison Race Riots (California): A war between Latino and black prison gangs set off a series of riots across California[48][49]
2008: Locke High School riot[50] (Los Angeles, California)
2009: 2009 Oakland Riots (Oakland, California): Peaceful protests turned into rioting after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Oscar Grant, by a BART transit policeman.
2014: Shooting of Michael Brown, later riots break out after the shooting was believed to be racially motivated.

Who imbedded this mindset? Are Whites really to blame? Do people like Sharpton or Jackson make things better?

The one creating segregation between ethnic groups in the US? Well, you'll have to go back to the 1700's. It just hasn't fully left.

When all is said and done these "Protests" only go as far as the government lets it go.

Obviously their job is to maintain order, so that's a given.
 
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Can not speak for the older dates and neither can you i doubt unless you are like 40+. As for the 2000 era ALL were media fueled except the obvious prison wars and those were covered too and the ONLY reason we knew about them.. Prison ethnic gang wars happen daily.

I will admit I am biased on the race wars being Native American because we are the true minority and it really bothers me that people stand up for a 6'4 292 lb man being shot by a policeman, But don't even so much as give a 2 minute blurb about the weekly rapes at reservations at the hands of FBI agents or the fact that Native children still die from complications due to unsanitary conditions every year. People turn a blind eye to it all and then pay attention to garbage like this. The man was shot and killed, the jury found the evidence (particularly on Michael Browns friends testimony) lacking, it should be over but it isn't because they want this "eye for an eye" type of justice.
 
It's amazing coming back and seeing exactly how much of an American problem this really is.

"It's a race issue because the KKK was involved!" Pretty sure the Black Panthers were also involved, another racist hate group.

"Antiblackness!" American fabricated social issue, racism exists everywhere, against every skin color, no it's not right but pretending this is against a specific group is ignorant.

"Most of the violent protestors were white (no evidence of this)/whites rioted too!" That doesn't justify anything, Ferguson was still hit very hard, it's as unacceptable as any riot or looting in any situation.

If there was REALLY a racial bias against black people, if America REALLY wanted to just kill or imprison every black person, where was the coverage of Dillon Taylor, the white man shot by a black cop during the same time? Seems like a perfect situation to ruin a black man's life for shooting a white man.

It's like I'm on tumblr or something, guess it always will be that way on the internet now.
 
People can find a way to justify any behavior as long as it suits THEIR purpose. But that is cool, that is why in America you can have debates like this so people can speak their mind. I like hearing opinions from others perspectives it makes me think. I don't always agree with them but hey, it is hard to when we were all raised differently and in different situations.
 
It's amazing coming back and seeing exactly how much of an American problem this really is.

"It's a race issue because the KKK was involved!" Pretty sure the Black Panthers were also involved, another racist hate group.

"Antiblackness!" American fabricated social issue, racism exists everywhere, against every skin color, no it's not right but pretending this is against a specific group is ignorant.

"Most of the violent protestors were white (no evidence of this)/whites rioted too!" That doesn't justify anything, Ferguson was still hit very hard, it's as unacceptable as any riot or looting in any situation.

If there was REALLY a racial bias against black people, if America REALLY wanted to just kill or imprison every black person, where was the coverage of Dillon Taylor, the white man shot by a black cop during the same time? Seems like a perfect situation to ruin a black man's life for shooting a white man.

It's like I'm on tumblr or something, guess it always will be that way on the internet now.

I don't think you actually understand who the Black Panthers were, but can you offer any evidence of them being involved? What would they even be involved with? Before you ask for evidence of the KKK being directly involved with the Ferguson police dept., watch this interview with the leader of Ferguson's local KKK chapter where he admits to having direct relations with the police department.

Racism does not exist everywhere, and it does not affect every skin color.

Why is rioting unacceptable but ignorance and racism are not?

The shooting of Dillon Taylor was determined to be justified due to the victims actions. The differences in this case were that the officer wore a body cam, didn't lie repeatedly, didn't have a corrupt prosecutor supporting him, among other things.

I've noticed a trend among people who don't actually know the full scope of the situation: 1) they try to make the conversation about racism against whites and/or try to make the conversation about how it's not a race issue because they don't like thinking about race issues critically, and 2) they bring up Tumblr as an insult.
 
Not really my argument but this was just one of 40+ articles mentioning them involved with the issue.
https://www.theroot.com/articles/cu...lack_friday_in_wake_of_ferguson_decision.html

However I have seen photos also. THOSE are what I am looking for give me a minute.

EDIT: I would mention The Root is one of the top online news references for african americans.

EDIT: Will add more articles here and hopefully some pics also soon
https://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/22/us-usa-missouri-shooting-explosives-idUSKCN0J602N20141122
https://wtvr.com/2014/08/13/fbi-war...r-party-leader-inciting-violence-in-ferguson/

OH HERE IS A NICE VID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJrG2AMghw
 
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I don't think you actually understand who the Black Panthers were, but can you offer any evidence of them being involved? What would they even be involved with? Before you ask for evidence of the KKK being directly involved with the Ferguson police dept., watch this interview with the leader of Ferguson's local KKK chapter where he admits to having direct relations with the police department.

Racism does not exist everywhere, and it does not affect every skin color.

Why is rioting unacceptable but ignorance and racism are not?

The shooting of Dillon Taylor was determined to be justified due to the victims actions. The differences in this case were that the officer wore a body cam, didn't lie repeatedly, didn't have a corrupt prosecutor supporting him, among other things.

I've noticed a trend among people who don't actually know the full scope of the situation: 1) they try to make the conversation about racism against whites and/or try to make the conversation about how it's not a race issue, and 2) they bring up Tumblr as an insult.

Two Black Panthers members arrested, planning to bomb police after verdict rendered.


Racism does indeed exist EVERYWHERE, and it affects EVERY RACE, or do you think whites have never been discriminated against? Geez I guess South Africa just doesn't exist, try learning about more than your own country and the english speaking west before you start spewing garbage like that.

The riots were started because of ignorance, they always are, riots and looting are never an acceptable answer, not sure how you got something negative out of me saying "don't do it" to literally everyone, this was in response to your "but whites riot for stupid reasons too" argument.
Also noticed that I mentioned racism being wrong, here's what I said again, "racism exists everywhere, against every skin color, no it's not right", it was the line above your very next argument.

If you watched the video, there was more than enough reason for people to say it was a race issue, to make it as big of a thing as this Michael Brown incident is if it is all really about "keeping the black people down", but nothing happened, because the suspect was suspicious enough with his hands on his hips, much like Michael Brown was when he came running toward the officer with his gun drawn.

I've also noticed something about people who don't know anything, they're white, teenaged to early 20s, live in America, but then pretend they know everything, while literally speaking about things that aren't true in the rest of the world, like there somehow isn't racism all over the rest of the world.

It's only a race "issue" because ignorant people make it so, the situation is all around regrettable, but the actions of the officer were, if you read everything on the issue, justified in that lethal force was used against a suspect who was violent against the officer and in his initial crime.
 
I gave them some links also including a death chant lead by Black panthers in outfit actually lol.
 
Sure must be nice to completely disregard black people when they say it's a race issue. You'd think people would have enough common sense to you know, listen to the people who experience racism and whatnot. Ho hum.
 
Sure must be nice to completely disregard black people when they say it's a race issue. You'd think people would have enough common sense to you know, listen to the people who experience racism and whatnot. Ho hum.

You are right let's ask the Native Americans.
 
Sure must be nice to completely disregard black people when they say it's a race issue. You'd think people would have enough common sense to you know, listen to the people who experience racism and whatnot. Ho hum.

Yes, completely ignore that this is more a police issue, with a deep rooted distrust of police inherent in the current young lower/middle class black America, while also ignoring any lower/middle class white people that also get killed by police.

Once again, it only became an issue to the media because Michael Brown was black, before that it was another case of a police officer shooting a suspect and if it was justified or not, which has been happening more often lately, and only added fuel to the third party lit fire.
 
"It's a race issue because the KKK was involved!" Pretty sure the Black Panthers were also involved, another racist hate group.

firstly
black empowerment is most certainly not racism
secondly
the black panthers, in this particular scenario, are taking the role of supporting the community and urging for justice
whereas the kkk have explicitly stated that they will take violent action against protestors

"Antiblackness!" American fabricated social issue, racism exists everywhere, against every skin color, no it's not right but pretending this is against a specific group is ignorant.
anti-blackness did not originate in america, it does not end with america. it's an issue pervasive in nearly all societies around the world, from south korea and sweden to name a few
antiblackness is against a specific group of people
it is called antiblack for a reason

"Most of the violent protestors were white (no evidence of this)/whites rioted too!" That doesn't justify anything, Ferguson was still hit very hard, it's as unacceptable as any riot or looting in any situation.

the most violent people present at the various protest sites are police, the majority of the police present there are white
but continuing on
the church of michael brown sr was firebombed last night, clearly not an act of people rioting in protest of the non-indictment
there are numerous videos and photos circling right now of police being the ones starting the aggression, the ones who are firing at civilians and cracking down on them
they are the ones with weaponry


It's like I'm on tumblr or something, guess it always will be that way on the internet now.

blaming tumblr for the inaccuracies in your arguments is hardly the way to go is it

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Racism does indeed exist EVERYWHERE, and it affects EVERY RACE, or do you think whites have never been discriminated against? Geez I guess South Africa just doesn't exist, try learning about more than your own country and the english speaking west before you start spewing garbage like that.
discrimination does not equal racism
secondly
discrimination against whites in south africa is a direct result of the system of apartheid that was there for 50 years, give or take about three years
 
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