Ms. Naminé's fanclub~ ♥

...I'm just going to quote the whole thing.

Krafty Quill said:
Whoa! All that while I was gone? :\

Well it's nice to see Naminé has entered this conversation in a big way. I'll get to you in a minute but let me address your twin first. I'm probably not going to be back on PC later today so I might as well post now.

Okay, Lily. You didn't force me to do anything and I replied of my own free will and choice. You're right, it was totally my decision but I don't see why you had to include that little bit at the beginning of your post. Perhaps, maybe you thought I was complaining? I was really only apologizing for not being able to reply sooner.
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'I don't think you understand. It's 4AM here. This is the last post for the day from me.' Sure didn't sound apologetic to me..

Actually, I'll have to disagree with you. The example is accurate in my opinion. If you've read my fic The Target, The Victim, The Saviour you'd see how I tackled this issue of human emotion. In a nutshell, I'll tell you that no matter what comment a person makes about you or towards you, only you will be able to add a tag to that comment (whether it's bad or good for example). No matter what they say. You, and NOT them, will choose whether what they're saying is hurtful, complementary, provocative, e.t.c. And mind you this is always the case.
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Hence, if I read your fanfic. Don't back up your side of the argument with information that is not even legitimate.

Human emotions differ; you cannot possibly interpret the intentions of the other person accurately in order to add a tag. While it's true in this case I might be the one labeling your comment, you have the freedom of denying it as well.

'..no matter what comment a person makes about you or towards you, only you will be able to add a tag to that comment (whether it's bad or good for example). '

This only proves our conversation goes in an endless circumlocution, thus having no ending ground, if we both keep trying to disprove one another. =/

With that said, the most you could do with the comment about my question being empty air is suggest how I should take it. You may not have intended to provoke me but that is the way I perceived your statement. To me, that statement greatly questioned my legitimacy and trustworthiness and so, like any rational person would, I refuted it immediately. Like wise, Ash may or may not have intended for his theory on Gary being scared to be provocative, but nevertheless, Gary will act upon the way he, himself, perceived Ash's comment. The action of denying your claim was a reflection on how I felt about it and not on whether or not you wanted to provoke me.

It would only be fair for everyone to have their own interpretations. But tell me, if a person interprets something according to their own views and yet another person KNOWS that this interpretation is wrong, wouldn't it be correct procedure for the knowledgeable person to show the other the 'truth'?
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Logical, but there's a huge difference in telling one the plain truth, or telling one the truth with evidence. Look at me: You can't honestly blame me for being skeptical, so I did what a rational person would do: assume.

Also, could it be you possibly misinterpreted my statement in the first place? I never intended on questioning your legitimacy and trustworthiness; all I ever really wanted to do was pull out a random, fanatical assumption on this mysterious question. Unfortunately...

That alone sprouted into this.

An example of this would be, let's say, one five year old boy and a fourteen year old boy. The toddler assumes that Santa Claus is real and he holds his evidence from the fact that his parents told him so, and that he sees presents under the tree, and all the commercials and so on. But the older boy, being more experienced, knows that Santa is nothing but a fable. Wouldn't it be correct for him to set the boy straight?
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As you predicted below, no. This example is much too broad to focus on one aspect. The little boy clings on to his belief until he gradually learns from experience over time that Santa Claus, is in fact, not real. We don't have that kind of time. There's also the matter of unwillingness: why would the older boy want to destory the younger boy's sense of childish innocence and belief?

In this case, why would you want to refute my innocent, sarcastic assumption when evidently it won't get you anywhere?

You may say no to this question (maybe the little boy's faith shouldn't be crushed so soon) and it may even be the case that according to the toddler, this older boy's 'knowledge' is questionable (after all, how can he trust the 'empty' words of this older boy given all the evidence he has seen?). If the older boy feels it is necessary to tell the younger one what he knows, he will. Just as I will tell you that your claim is wrong if I'm sure that is the case.
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Ah, but the question of whether or not the older boy is willing to persist in converting the younger boy despite denials...think about it.

The younger boy holds no experience as the older boy (I have no knowledge of your 'question'). Thus, the younger boy begins to question and assume the older boy's statement nonsensically. (I assume that your question is empty air). The older boy tries to convince the younger boy that Santa Clause indeed does not exist. The younger boy does not listen, due to his lack of knowledge. Older boy tries to prove he has more experience, more wisdom, more intelligence; younger boy laughs it off.

Younger boy can't see it the older boy's way.

Older boy can't see it the younger boy's way.

You responded just the way I expected you to.
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...Don't go all omniscient on me. It sounds ridiculously illogical when presented through posts.

I purposely used that example of our assumptions to get my point across. But as you know, that is not the case with the question. On your part, you assume that I may be lying. But there are no assumptions whatsoever on my part and therefore I have some sort of foundation to disagree with your assumption. Tell me which wins, assumption or knowledge? But I guess the real problem here is that my 'knowledge' cannot be trusted either. Possibly, rightfully so, as you have not seen any 'evidence' to my 'claim'. Thankfully, you quoted my words regarding my concern of this matter.

I did say: it really doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Which is exactly why I have no incentive to even prove myself. So why bother refuting you in the first place? If you didn't get it in the Ash and Gary example or the example I put above, I suggest you revise my posts and you will discover why. And yes, you may continue to be skeptical until you receive further information as the information I have given you of the question's existence is clearly not enough according to your standards.
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From the Ash + Gary example, all I received was the fact that Gary didn't walk away and say, "I'm not scared."

Either that or Gary doesn't like Ashie's jokes~




And Naminé, if you ever do pair up with Krafty Quill...

...I will (be sorely tempted to) tell him~

then again there's that *other* method. I won't mind that at all. Preferred, right?

Oh, and thanks for the picture, G-man. It was a cute comeback. ^_^
 
No, no. I meant it to direct it at everyone .. o.o
 
How can I possibly not give my heart to the one and only ROY MUSTANG? >D
 

Naminé has double checked the "requirements" of the question. Be it one minute of time, or not being allowed to use "I" or "you," she has some degree of confidence that she will be alright. As long as the question only wants a reply or a response that is not in the first or second person, she will be safe as there is always the evil word play that will allow Naminé to legally squeeze through the trap, though she may not pass it in the most brilliant way possible... Why, as long as the word "one" is allowed in the response to the question... She has a multi-purpose response that can "dodge" any question.

Naminé thanks Ms. Lily for being so much attention and using so much of her energy in dealing with Naminé's matters. Certainly, she will not be paired with anyone else but the same person she has always waited for in the time that has passed, that time that is here and in the time that is about to come...

Sigh
 
This question might not be even worth it..

All for the reason that you can't just...pair. ._. You agree with me, don'tcha?...
 
Lily said:
This question might not be even worth it..

All for the reason that you can't just...pair. ._. You agree with me, don'tcha?...
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Yes, she understands the grave situation with Naminé and any pairing...

*shortest Naminé post*
 
Wow.

This is getting crazy...

Hopefully I can end all of this with this post. Where to start?

Okay, Lily, I'm going to try this one last time. You're right that doesn't sound like an apology and I have just realised that I had forgotten to include the most important statement in that post which would have been along the lines of 'I'll only be able to get back to you tomorrow'.

That bit about reading my fic was free advertisment and nothing more. XD I think you are missing the point or perhaps I didn't explain it clearly enough. You said that your comment was never meant to provoke me and therefore I shouldn't have refuted so quickly if I wasn't guilty of something. What I was trying to say is that, I tagged your statement and not the other way around. You didn't want to provoke me but that's how I saw it and that's the reason I responded the way I did. Not because I felt guilty or intimidated by your comment but because I didn't like the implications it had about me and that's why I rejected it so quickly. Yeah, and the root cause of this problem could very much be because I misinterpreted your statement. So if you would please tell me what you meant, maybe we could get somewhere. I hope that makes it better?

I don't blame you for being skeptical and if you read my post fully you'd see that I said it would only be your right to be skeptical until you recieved further information.

Now, to my Santa example you said no the older boy shouldn't tell the little boy and let him discover the truth on his own. Strangely enough, you also said we didn't have that kind of time for the little boy to discover the truth on his own. What quicker way for him to discover the truth than to be told by the older boy? You know what, don't answer that...

" In this case, why would you want to refute my innocent, sarcastic assumption when evidently it won't get you anywhere? "

I really think the problem started with your 'innocent, sarcastic assumption' and how I read it, so if you would please explain it I could answer your question much better. But what I would say is that I didn't like the implications your statment had and that's why I refuted it. Not to mention I felt it was only right that you should know such a question does exist. This is getting really repititve...

Seriously, and I'm not trying to be "omniscient ", you did respond the way I expected you to.

Now, let's move on to more interesting matters. This little bit really caught my attention:

" And Naminé, if you ever do pair up with Krafty Quill...

...I will (be sorely tempted to) tell him~

then again there's that *other* method. I won't mind that at all. Preferred, right? "

Now it's my turn to be extremely curious. Who exactly is 'him?' As for the other method thing, I think I've got a good idea what you're talking about.

EDIT: I'm confused...? What in the world are you talking about, *other* method?

Namine has so many secrets I wish I knew...

" Naminé has double checked the "requirements" of the question. Be it one minute of time, or not being allowed to use "I" or "you," she has some degree of confidence that she will be alright. As long as the question only wants a reply or a response that is not in the first or second person, she will be safe as there is always the evil word play that will allow Naminé to legally squeeze through the trap, though she may not pass it in the most brilliant way possible... Why, as long as the word "one" is allowed in the response to the question... She has a multi-purpose response that can "dodge" any question.

Naminé thanks Ms. Lily for being so much attention and using so much of her energy in dealing with Naminé's matters. Certainly, she will not be paired with anyone else but the same person she has always waited for in the time that has passed, that time that is here and in the time that is about to come... "

Sorry to disappoint you but no, 'one' cannot be used to answer the question. The Question this, the question that, the question, the question, THE QUESTION!! I'm tired of all this about the question.

And Lily's probably right, this question is not worth it. Well, it does have some worth as despite Namine's profuse attempt to convince me otherwise, I'm sure she is not in the least fond of Mr Krafty Quill (I don't know what in the world has possessed me to call myself 'Mr') and would love nothing more than to see him leave PC for good. So there's a plus for Namine. On the downside, asking her this question is techinically like forcing her into a pairing because I'm sure she won't get it right. And I realise that the nature of such a pairing can never be healthy and in the long run (short run even) will only hurt Namine and Mr. Krafty Quill eventually. Besides, Namine has clearly stated that she is waiting for this special 'someone' to be paired with. I wouldn't want to take that away from her.

So once again, at the cost of being flamed like crazy by Lily for doing so, I'm going to suggest that we leave this question alone and let it be burried. Yeah, I know I'm never going to hear the end of it about how 'fake' this whole thing was and how this question doesn't exist and if I dare fight such flames i will only be pounded further into the ground and be told my fighting effort is only justifying the flames. Roy, I wouldn't say Namine shouldn't be paried with anyone but I would say it would probably be best if she wasn't paired with me, and I'm sure Lily will agree with me there?

It's very amusing to see how Namine believes she can dodge any question by those means when in she, herself, told me that she hasn't perfected this 'third-person' state of talking. Now that I look back, I have to agree with you Namine, as I have seen plenty examples of you using 'first-person' in clearly intended 'third-person' posts. And I'm not talking about the taboo posts you first did the moment you joined PC, as instances of you using first person are very clear in several posts in this very fan club. Perhaps I'm not the only one who picked them up but to me this clearly shows that you wouldn't have been able to answer the question anyway. As I told you during the first posts I met you, I'd rather save it for someone who thinks they're invincible.

So let's drop this question as it brings nothing but trouble every time it is mentioned. So be happy Roy.

Enough about that. Now, more pressing matters. I got a few questions. Lily, when did this pairing with Crystal happen? And Namine, who is this person you are waiting to be paired with?
 
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Ending it would be a good idea…I'm going to make this brief, as I'm currently using the school's library during lunch hour.

That 'him' is actually you. If she pairs up with you, I told her I'd be tempted to tell you things no one but her should really know in the first place. >P

My pairing with Crystal Walrein isn't permanent, nor is it serious. It's a bit of publicity stunt, that's all. None of my pairs are ever permanent, and like Naminé, I too am 'searching' for a concrete one...for the lack of a better word. Pfft.

I'm going to have to either post later or edit...the teacher watches over us like a hawk.

Ja ne~ <3
 
Whoa... that was certainly swift of you. I didn't even know you were logged on. O.o

I was just about to leave too. Publicity stunt, ey? Sounds good to me. But how would a pairing help your status in anything? If not for extreme freindship than why would you pair with anyone?

Yup. Than it's final. No more talk about the question. I don't think I'm going to post later. Gotta study.

EDIT: Well, if I'm the him you're talking about than please don't be held back by some silly formality such as 'pairing' to tell me things about Namine. You can always Pm me remember ;). I'll be expecting one...

Wait a minute if I'm him then what is this *other* method? Still confused... Shed some light, Lily.

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Yes she perfectly remembers why she cannot pair, as Naminé has nailed the reason to her heart... She remembers who she truly cares about, and will not ever betray her promised commitment to that special someone.

As for Ms. Lily's publicity stunt, what can Naminé say about it? She will simply let time neutralize itself so she will be used to it. Slightly troubled? Perhaps, but she will live with it. Just as Ms. Lily decides to take the responsibility to constantly remind Naminé, she will also be here to remind Ms. Lily of what she said as well.

Glad that the "Question Controversy" is coming to a close. If the word "one" is not allowed in the response, then Naminé has absolutely no way to answer it anymore, so she will certainly lose. She had to talk in first person sometimes in the past, as Mr. Rock Lee and Mr. Hitori both had a bit of trouble understanding her. Mr. Roy Mustang occassionally has the problem as well, so she have to act out of person and translate her posts or messages on MSN back to the first person for understandability. There are also the times where she is simply too tired to write in a specific style, and blurbs out whatever is on her mind, like tonight... so tired for some reason. Notice how this post is less 'elegant' than usual?

Why... she just realized that it's getting close to a the birthday 'old friend...' How times have changed.
 
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No, no, no, no, no, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid! *slaps head.

What was I thinking? Of course I want to be paired with Namine! Not to mention that whole argument would have been for nothing should I not ask this question! Sorry but that special someone is about to get their heart broken because you are going to answer this question. Mind you, why have you not put your '~paired-with-Krafty-Quill~' slogan in your sig? :\ Our pairing has been in effect since the moment you agreed to attempt to answer this question. All that awaits is a formality.

Yeah, I changed my mind as I have just realised that once I'm officially paired with you, Lily will be obliged to tell me whatever it is she was talking about in that post. And also, whatever this *other* method is...

So, I'd hate to break your commitment Namine, but like I said you are bound by the contract and cannot escape. Now, I realise that making you forfiet writing in third-person is a bit harsh so I'm not going to enforce that rule. All I ask is that you pair with me and make it official and public so that everybody knows! Also, our pairing cannot be disassembled unless agreed upon by both of us. That said, we will proceed to msn as planned where you will answer the question.

A few rules.

1.) You must be honest (I'll explain why this important on msn)

2.) You will not be at liberty to share the question with anyone else without my concent as it is trademarked and the copyright of Krafty Quill.

3.) Failure will arise should you: i) break any of the rules (I'll tell you on msn), ii) not answer the question or iii) fail to answer the question in third person.

So, if you'd just agree to that we will proceed. A hint, the quesition itself is very, very easy to answer. It's translating into the third person that is going to be difficult. Impossibly difficult.

Happy Birthday to whoever this close friend of your may be as any friend of Namine is a friend of mine. (Not really, but you know what I mean!)
 
Sorry for not posting here Naminé ;; How are you today and did you do anything fun?
 
Silly...

How about if Naminé askes Mr. Krafty Quill a question, called "What is your name?" and as a requirement in the answer, Mr. Krafty Quill cannot respond with any english words that Naminé knows of, and that he must answer it in english?

As one can see, it is only a waste of time to pay heed to such a foolish "requirements" in answering a question, because now it is not about if the question is as truly challenging as it is, but it is about the unfair situation created for the one to answer the question. Notice just how many times did the word "one" got used by Naminé already? For, it is the equivalence of the pronoun to address anyone in the third person, so how can Naminé possibly answer Mr. Krafty Quill's question?

Above all else, when Naminé offered to accept the "deal," who is the one that rejected her to the utmost height? If the deal is never accepted and signed to begin with, she sees no point that she must be bounded by any invisible contract. She pities Mr. Krafty Quill that he regrets a wrong choice that he has made, but she is afraid that this previous post is all but a speck of dust in Naminé's order of priorities. Certainly, Naminé will do as she sees fit and will act as she wishes. She certainly does not reside in the old times of the Soviet Union to have a "relationship" that is not her decision to break it or not. Neither is Mr. Krafty Quill, as this is the modern time of the 21st century. Perhaps Mr. Krafty Quill is not in his best mood at the moment to be so delusional to the point that he has mistaken himself to be Stalin, and Naminé to be one of his communist states. Certainly, he will have no access to tanks known as Ms. Lily either in some strange attempt to threaten or roll over Naminé in a weak attempt to blackmail her into a pairing, or else he will gain access her secrets. No forces so can so easily wreck the friendship between Naminé and Ms. Lily to persuade Ms. Lily to give up Naminé's secrets to betray her. Naminé entrusted it to Ms. Lily because she has Naminé's complete and total trust, and she is sure that Ms. Lily will not tell anyone of anything in the smallest resemblance to it. Try blackmailing her again when he finally knows of her secrets next time.

Certainly, she will continue her wait to be accepted, and she will never fall in love or pair with someone who dares to play with the word "promise" so lightly and easily~

Dare not speak of promises or make one so easily, as the heavens cry and darkness rules the soul of those who followed the corrupted mind to break or make fun of one.


Welcome back as well, Princess Seraphia. Naminé is not doing the best today. Earlier, she slept from 10, and only woke up recently at 4:30 after her very early dismissal from school today because she is so tired and worned up. And then when she woke up, it wasn't the most pleasant of all posts that greeted her either, and soon she will have to be off to work. Doubt that she will have much time on MSN tonight too...
 
Naminé, Why did you put yourself in invisible mode? .__. Now I can't spy on you anymore! ¬_¬ Once again, you've ruined my fun.
 
Its good to see Miss Namine in invisible mode, Miss Lily can still see her though

How is namine today?
 
Hmm...Nami-chan has a point.

She's only on invisible mode 'cause she's doing something secret~

...I bet. And no, Nami-chan, I'm not going to tell, 'though sooner or later you'll have to. ;;
 
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