Whoa! All that while I was gone? :\
Well it's nice to see Naminé has entered this conversation in a big way. I'll get to you in a minute but let me address your twin first. I'm probably not going to be back on PC later today so I might as well post now.
Okay, Lily. You didn't force me to do anything and I replied of my own free will and choice. You're right, it was totally my decision but I don't see why you had to include that little bit at the beginning of your post. Perhaps, maybe you thought I was complaining? I was really only apologizing for not being able to reply sooner.
Actually, I'll have to disagree with you. The example is accurate in my opinion. If you've read my fic The Target, The Victim, The Saviour you'd see how I tackled this issue of human emotion. In a nutshell, I'll tell you that no matter what comment a person makes about you or towards you, only you will be able to add a tag to that comment (whether it's bad or good for example). No matter what they say. You, and NOT them, will choose whether what they're saying is hurtful, complementary, provocative, e.t.c. And mind you this is always the case.
With that said, the most you could do with the comment about my question being empty air is suggest how I should take it. You may not have intended to provoke me but that is the way I perceived your statement. To me, that statement greatly questioned my legitimacy and trustworthiness and so, like any rational person would, I refuted it immediately. Like wise, Ash may or may not have intended for his theory on Gary being scared to be provocative, but nevertheless, Gary will act upon the way he, himself, perceived Ash's comment. The action of denying your claim was a reflection on how I felt about it and not on whether or not you wanted to provoke me.
It would only be fair for everyone to have their own interpretations. But tell me, if a person interprets something according to their own views and yet another person KNOWS that this interpretation is wrong, wouldn't it be correct procedure for the knowledgeable person to show the other the 'truth'?
An example of this would be, let's say, one five year old boy and a fourteen year old boy. The toddler assumes that Santa Claus is real and he holds his evidence from the fact that his parents told him so, and that he sees presents under the tree, and all the commercials and so on. But the older boy, being more experienced, knows that Santa is nothing but a fable. Wouldn't it be correct for him to set the boy straight?
You may say no to this question (maybe the little boy's faith shouldn't be crushed so soon) and it may even be the case that according to the toddler, this older boy's 'knowledge' is questionable (after all, how can he trust the 'empty' words of this older boy given all the evidence he has seen?). If the older boy feels it is necessary to tell the younger one what he knows, he will. Just as I will tell you that your claim is wrong if I'm sure that is the case.
You responded just the way I expected you to. I purposely used that example of our assumptions to get my point across. But as you know, that is not the case with the question. On your part, you assume that I may be lying. But there are no assumptions whatsoever on my part and therefore I have some sort of foundation to disagree with your assumption. Tell me which wins, assumption or knowledge? But I guess the real problem here is that my 'knowledge' cannot be trusted either. Possibly, rightfully so, as you have not seen any 'evidence' to my 'claim'. Thankfully, you quoted my words regarding my concern of this matter.
I did say: it really doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Which is exactly why I have no incentive to even prove myself. So why bother refuting you in the first place? If you didn't get it in the Ash and Gary example or the example I put above, I suggest you revise my posts and you will discover why. And yes, you may continue to be skeptical until you receive further information as the information I have given you of the question's existence is clearly not enough according to your standards.
That about covers you Lily and I'm sure you know what card I'm talking about. Okay, now Naminé.
I must admit that you are pretty spot on in your above posts. To prove a claim, it must be put to some sort of test. It is not a weakness to allow a claim to be put the test. However, this theory of putting something to 'the test' can very easily be used as a tool of manipulation. If you want somebody to do something, all you'd have to do is spew anything that has the hopes of provoking the sensibility and/or validity of the person enough to make them commit to doing things they need not do or things that you would like to see them do.
Sure, if Gary truly isn't scared than he'll prove it by battling Ash - and in the process play perfectly into Ash's hands and do things he doesn't want to (he's not in the mood to). While Ash's real reasons (which may or may not be mentioned in the example) for wanting to battle Gary could be hidden behind this 'prove you're not scared' theory, Gary would be playing against his own wishes to prove a statement that Ash may not even want to be proved in the first place. It would be a weakness to be pulled into such a circumstance.
If, and only if, Gary felt he needed to prove himself (and prove Ash wrong in the process) should he proceed to battle. In much the same way, the scientist in your example should only carry out the procedure if he'd like to prove to the fellow scientist that water would indeed turn to steam when boiled. As you may know that is not the case with me as I have clearly stated that it really doesn't matter if you believe me or not.
The reason why Gary said 'no' would be considered the 'right choice' has been explained perfectly in your post. Mind you, literally, not even I could have explained it any better. That said, it is case that I am not concerned with whether you believe the question exists or not.
Are you seducing me, Naminé? Of course you know that Naminé is on top of Mr. Krafty Quill's desires list. And all this makes me want you even more … unfortunately, as I said before, this is my only post for the day and I'd rather post the question separately from this. As I mentioned before it has a time element to it and giving you one full day to answer would be erroneous to say the least. A more suitable forum for this question would be msn as I am giving you less than a minute to answer.
And I GAURANTEE that should Naminé step foot in the msn forum, she will be leaving with my arm wrapped around her (not to mention I'll be leaving with a big smile on face cause I would have proved Lily wrong too! :)). Scratch that, it's no longer a question of 'if' it's just a matter of time as Naminé has already agreed to attempt to answer the question. She is now bound by the contract and cannot refuse to come to msn. Unfortunately, I will not be able to log onto msn during the weekdays (as the only available time I have is now) and so this meeting will have to take place on Friday or Saturday night. May I suggest that until then, Naminé should savour her final days of being single. I'm sorry Roy, as much as you don't want me to pair with her, this question is IT.
I should also mention methods such as "I" or "you" will not be tolerated in the 'answer'. On second thought, mentioning that would be pointless as the mere nature of the question will not allow it. So confident I am that I am almost willing to post my PC password for all to see on this very thread or better yet leave PC forever should Naminé 'answer' correctly within the given time limit. As much as I'd hate to 'destroy' Naminé, when she fails to 'answer' this question correctly, not only will she be my pair but she must forfeit the right to talk in third person FOREVER.
My only concern and partly the reason I delayed this question is because I was highly doubtful that Naminé would agree with the terms. I now trust that that is not the case.
With that said, I'll probably post again tomorrow if I get the time to do so.
Until then, bye and enjoy.
Your hours of being unpaired are ticking away...
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