My first RMT

[Zaradon]

Hey everyone and welcome to my first RMT. This is my first competive team ever, so i've

problamy done alot of things wrong that all of you experienced players never would do.

However i dont want this thread to be about how bad my team are and that i suck.
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Instead of that kind off comments tell me what i've done wrong and tell me how to fix the problem.



The Team


The wall
Bronzong

Ability: Leviatate
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed

EV Hp 252 Atk 68 Def 108 SpDef 80

Hypnosis
Gyro ball
EQ
Stealth rock

Comment:
I open with him use Stealth rock and the often switch to any of my sweeper to kill his first and second pokemon. EQ just to kill my opponent lol.

The special sweeper/Revenge killer
Porygon-z

Ability: Adaptability
Nature: Timid
Item: Choice scarf

EV SpAtk 252 Sped 252 Hp 4

Thunderbolt
Tri attack
Ice beam
Hidden power fighting


Comment:
GREAT sweeper. This has potential to take out 2-3 pokémon if used correctly. Choice scarf to outspeed most stuffs and maxed EV on SpAtk to kill basicly anything with it attacks. I have thought about learning it Calm mind but i decided to not.

The.. uh... Scizor
Scizor

Item: Choice band
Ability: Technican
Nature: Adamant

EVS 244 HP 252 Atk 12 Speed

U-turn
Bullet punch
Superpower
Return

Comment:
IDK.


The flying physical sweeper
Salamence

Ability: Intidimate
Item: Choice band
Nature: Jolly

EV HP 80 Atk 252 Speed 176
Aqua tail
Fire fang
Dragon claw
Outrage

Comment:
Salamence....WOOT

The ground Physical sweeper
Rhyperior

Ability: Solid rock
Item: Letfovers
Nature: Adamant

EV HP 132 Atk 192 SpDf 16 Speed 168

EQ
Megahorn
Stone edge
Substitute

Comment: Sweep!

The defensive bulky water
Vaporeon

Ability: Water absorb
Nature: Bold
Item: Leftovers

EV 188HP 252Def 68SpDef.

Ice beam
Wish
Surf
Protect

Comment:
Very basic WishPoreon. Protect to protect me (lol that sounds funny) and Surf/Ice beam to deal some damage. Not really much to explain.


That's about it. Remember this is the first time i make a team so dont suppose it to be teh best.

Thx for reading the whole thing.

 

[Dark Azelf]

The Team


The wall
Bronzong
Ability: Leviatate
Item: Leftovers / Lum Berry
Nature: Relaxed

EV Hp 252 / 68 Atk / Def 108 / 80 sp.def

Explosion / Hypnosis
Gyro ball
EQ / Hypnosis
Stealth rock

Relaxed to power up Gyro Ball please and to increase your physical def without needing as many def evs. 68 att OHKO Gengar and the s.def helps draco meteors etc.

Lum Berry + Hypnosis is still a fantastic combo since sleep leads are quite common now you can just take their sleep first turn, wake up and put them right back to sleep and guarantee you set up SR, something to consider.



The 1st special sweeper
Porygon-z
Ability: Adaptability
Nature: Modest / Timid
Item: Choice Scarf

EV SpAtk 252 Sped 252 Hp 4

Thunderbolt
Tri attack
Hidden Power Fighting
Ice Beam

NEVER use Hyper Beam, 2 turn charge up moves = noob, remember that. You are at risk of something setting up on you easily.

Ok, id scarf this because Gyarados mashes your team after a dd so you can at least check/revenge it with pz. Ice Beam hits dragons etc whilst HP Fight nails Heatran and Tyranitar.

Shadow Ball + Dark Pulse have redundant coverage tbh.

The 2nd special sweeper
Alakazam
Ability: Synchronize
Nature:Timid
Item: Leftovers

EV 152 HP / 176 SpD / 180 Speed

Psychic
Substitute
Calm mind
Focus Blast

1. Ice Punch is physical and Alakazam's attack stat is lol.
2. Recover is useless, zam is far too frail for it.

Ok, let me explain this set, you set up a sub to stop status and then calm mind beind it to make your subs unbreakable and you can actually set up on things like Cress, Celebi and non S-Toss Blissey. Leftovers heals you as then cannot break your subs.

Focus Blast + Psychic has the best coverage

Substitute also stops Scizor/Metagross etc playing mind games with "will i Pursuit or Bullet Punch?" since you can just switch whilst your sub takes the Pursuit. ^_^

The flying physical sweeper
Staraptor
Ability: Intidimate
Item: Choice belt
Nature: Adamant

EV Atk 252 Speed 252 SpDef 4

Brave bird
Close combat
U-turn
Return

Yeah, but Giga impact = no.

The ground Physical sweeper
Rhyperior
Ability: Solid rock
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Adamant

EV: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 16 SpD / 168 Spe

EQ
Stone Edge
Swords Dance / Megahorn
Substitute

Use those evs with sub, they let you take hits whilst being able to attack well yourself. You need Stone Edge as your Secondary STAB.

The defensive bulky water
Vaporeon
Ability: Water absorb
Nature: Bold
Item: Leftovers

EV 252def 188hp 68SpDef.

Ice beam
Wish
Surf
Toxic

Those evs takes hits better.



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Ok, so you need a fighting resist, so id try a Salamence >> Staraptor. This allows you to take Close Combats from things like Lucario etc.

Salamence@Choice Band
80 HP / 252 ATT / 176 SPEED
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Dragon Claw
- Aqua Tail
- Fire Fang

Adamant beats Adamant Lucario and Jolly beats Jolly Lucario so its really up to you which nature you use.

Dragon Claw for easly game and scouting whilst Outrage for late game. Fire Fang hits steels and Aqua Tail just gives this set great coverage.

Next, i can see Scizor being a pain. Stealth Rock + U-Turn = ughh for this team in addition nothing really beats the Swords Dancer. Id consider something like Heatran >> Alakazam.

Heatran@Life Orb
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP
Timid / Naive Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Gras/Electric] / Dragon Pulse
- Explosion / Dragon Pulse

Set is self explanitory really.

Fire Blast + Earrth Power for STAB and in the latters case, coverage. Hidden Power Electric hits bulky waters and Gyarados whilst HP Grass does the same and hits Swampert (who is quite the pain to your team). Dragon Pulse for Dragons and has alot of neutra coverage and Explosion is jut Explosion and takes out most things non resistant and special walls like Blissey etc.

Something like this.

So, to review the changes :

Bronzong
Heatran
Porygon-z
Salamence
Rhyperior
Vaporeon

Something like this ?

Good luck with the team.

 

[Zaradon]

Thx taking your time on my team ^^. I did Not change the pokemon in the team cuz i like Stara and Alakazam but i did the changes on them. The thing you told me with Giga impact/Hyper beam i know they were terrible but i couldn't come up with something better. I hope you tought it was decent for being my first time. Thx for the help on pics.

 

[Pokedra]

On your Scarf P-Z go with Ice Beam >>> Dark Pulse to take care of Mence and Dragon-types in general.

252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD on Vappy please, also consider Protect >>> Toxic, its useful for scouting hits and also allows you to get the Wish healing without taking a hit.

SDLuke hurts you pretty bad, ES destroys P-Z, Zam. CC wipes out Vappy, Zong and Rhyperior. Sure Staraptor outspeeds it but that dies to ES 70% of the time after SR soo you need to check it. Maybe ScrarfTran could work over P-Z, it can switch in on Fire-attacks aimed at Zong and can be covered very well by Vappy.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Nature : Naive
EV : 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power [Electric]

Have fun with this team ^.^

 

[Zaradon]

On your Scarf P-Z go with Ice Beam >>> Dark Pulse to take care of Mence and Dragon-types in general.

252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD on Vappy please, also consider Protect >>> Toxic, its useful for scouting hits and also allows you to get the Wish healing without taking a hit.

SDLuke hurts you pretty bad, ES destroys P-Z, Zam. CC wipes out Vappy, Zong and Rhyperior. Sure Staraptor outspeeds it but that dies to ES 70% of the time after SR soo you need to check it. Maybe ScrarfTran could work over P-Z, it can switch in on Fire-attacks aimed at Zong and can be covered very well by Vappy.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Nature : Naive
EV : 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Dragon Pulse / Hidden Power [Electric]

Have fun with this team ^.^

Thx for all help but as i said earlier to "Dark azelf" i will not change pokémons in the team. I'll change ice beam> dark pulse but should Alakazam still have Ice beam? I can change protect> surf if you want. However on the vappy EVS Dark azelf told me to have these but you told me other and both sounds good. I dunno which i should have ^^

 

[Pokedra]

If switching a Pokemon benefits your team you should usually do it, just because you like using it doesn't mean it's the best choice and can't be replaced. Ultimately it's your choice whether you switch it or not but I strongly urge you to consider the switches suggested by DA. It'll really benefit your team ;)

Both spreads can work on Vappy, it really depends on what you want.

Alakazam doesn't learn Ice Beam...replace it with Focus Blast so you can hit stuff like Tar, Blissey as well as general coverage =)

 

[Zaradon]

Okay i might add in another poké. But only 1 lol. So which do you think should go out which should go in? BTW Alakazam already has Focus blast ^^.

 

[Pokedra]

Sorry about that, well then put CM >>> Ice Beam (as he doesn't learn it :P).

The changes DA suggested(LOTran > Zam, CBMence > CBStaraptor) are probably the ones you should take ;)

If you're really adamant on one change then I'd go ScarfTran >> Scarf P-Z, it'll solve your SDScizor/SDLuke weak and you can revenge a bunch of different Pokemon but you do kinda need a Fighting resist....

 

[Zaradon]

Sorry for being noobish but what is LOTran?

 

[Pokedra]

Sorry for being noobish but what is LOTran?

Heatran@Life Orb
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED/ 6 HP
Timid / Naive Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Gras/Electric] / Dragon Pulse
- Explosion / Dragon Pulse

^ That set there is LOTran =]

 

[Zaradon]

Ok thanks ^^. You think i should change Alakazam to LOTran then? It looks pretty darn decent.

 

[wolf]

The flying physical sweeper
Salamence

Ability: Intidimate
Item: Choice band
Nature: Adamant

EV 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe or use DA's spread

Outrage
Aqua Tail
Fire Fang
Dragon Claw

HP Flying isn't physical in DPPt, so Outrage fits. Aqua Tail and Fire Fang for coverage, and Dragon Claw for late game.

Timid > Modest on Porygon-Z so you outrun +1 Jolly Gyarados.

Offensive Calm Mind Latias tears through your team. Everything is outsped and OHKO'd, and Ice Beam from Porygon-Z only deals 49% max after a CM. Maybe something like Choice Scarf Jirachi can go over Porygon-Z. It also helps with +1 Adamant / Naughty Salamence without having to lure the Outrages to Bronzong.

@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe (max Speed is needed to speed tie with Jolly / Naive Salamence)
Jolly Nature (+ Spe / - SpA)
- Iron Head
- ThunderPunch
- Ice Punch
- Trick / Fire Punch

 

[Zaradon]

Timid > Modest on Porygon-Z so you outrun +1 Jolly Gyarados.

Offensive Calm Mind Latias tears through your team. Everything is outsped and OHKO'd, and Ice Beam from Porygon-Z only deals 49% max after a CM. Maybe something like Choice Scarf Jirachi can go over Porygon-Z. It also helps with +1 Adamant / Naughty Salamence without having to lure the Outrages to Bronzong.

@ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe (max Speed is needed to speed tie with Jolly / Naive Salamence)
Jolly Nature (+ Spe / - SpA)
- Iron Head
- ThunderPunch
- Ice Punch
- Trick / Fire Punch

I did all of the fixes you suggested except for Jirachi cuz i can't get it ^^.

 

[wolf]

I did all of the fixes you suggested except for Jirachi cuz i can't get it ^^.

Hmm... Maybe CB Scizor could work instead.

@ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spe (don't use max HP because you take more SR damage)
Adamant Nature (+ Atk / - SpA)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit / Quick Attack / Double Hit / Return

U-turn for scouting, Bullet Punch for revenge killing, Superpower for coverage against Magnezone, Heatran, etc, and Pursuit can be used for revenge killing stuff like Gengar, Rotom-A, etc. Quick Attack can also be used as another priority for weakened Gyarados, Infernape, Jolteon, etc. Double Hit or Return can be used to 2HKO a max HP Gyarados (SR and Intimidate factored). They both have the same base power (105), but Double Hit breaks through Subs so it is generally better.

Changing might not add any new threats to your team. If I spot any I'll post. ;3

And, if you do this, use HP Electric over Ice Beam on Vaporeon so you can counter Gyarados.

 

[Zaradon]

Now dats sumething dat sounds frekin amasing.(Cool english). What to take out?

 

[wolf]

Now dats sumething dat sounds frekin amasing.(Cool english). What to take out?

Probably Porygon-Z since they are both filling the same role (revenge killing).

 

[Zaradon]

Okay. I'll do that ^^. Can't i take out Alakazam?

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

The principal problem of this team, is that it comes completely destroyed by a Swords Dance Lucario in combo with Stealth Rock, I would try to cover better such weakness.

 

[Zaradon]

The principal problem of this team, is that it comes completely destroyed by a Swords Dance Lucario in combo with Stealth Rock, I would try to cover better such weakness.

So what do you suggest? I can't of think of something.

 

[Dark Azelf]

So what do you suggest? I can't of think of something.

Make Mence Jolly and give it 80 hp / 252 att / 176 speed to outspeed Jolly Lucario and you can pass it wishes from vappy to act as a decent Lucario check.

That and Lucario cant set up on anything. ^^